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How far below replacement-level would he be with framing considered?

 

If you based it off his career averages, ~-.5 or -.6 fWAR.

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Also JPA is batting a solid .186 (.186 obp as well) with risp with 1HR. Not bad for our 4/5 hitter!

 

Yep, and this is the guy we want protecting our hottest hitter right now. Runners on first and third with 1 out and he's still pulling his head off and trying to yank everything into left. when all he has to do is hit a lazy fly ball to center field and it's 4-0. Ridiculous at how sickeningly bad this guy is at the basic fundamentals of this game. His pitch framing is amongst the worst I've ever seen and makes me laugh out loud at times. He stabs downwards and takes obvious pitch track strikes and get s his pitcher an automatic ball call. On top of that, I've never seen a pro who still cannot get down and block balls to his right whatsoever. He still doesn't even have the basic mechanics to alloow him to get into the proper position. I'm f***ing appalled at how this guy is allowed to play pro ball as a postion player.

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Regress it to the mean with about 5000 pitches, incorporate with the past 3 seasons of data and our best estimate of JPA's true talent framing is not good. Especially when to the eye he looks like a piece of garbage (though admittedly there may be some confirmation bias there).

 

So while this can't possibly be interpreted as bad news for JPA, nobody should be calling him a good or average framer yet.

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The way Mark B pitches definately helps his numbers out 2, nibbling at the corners with a soft tosser is going to get you a lot of calls and easy to frame up.
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I think we lost NJH's post in the upgrade. However I'd like to state that Buehrle was a negative just based on the raw data in Fast's study.
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Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal 5h

Worst OBPs: Keppinger .234, Arencibia .238, Betancourt .247, Moustakas .249, Hicks .249, Dominguez .256, B.J. Upton .252, P. Alvarez .263.

 

 

That's right folks, we'd be better off with Betancourt as our converted catcher!

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Cliffs?

 

Both Zaun and Campbell on PTS

Zaun basically saying JP doesnt know how to catch. Cox and Bob were asking if one of the symptons of this teams sloppy play are because of JP.

Zaun was going off on this organizations ability to do fundamental things like bunt and slide.

 

It's awesome to hear the talking heads around the team starting to speak out.

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I think Zaun is a moron, but its great that media is no longer hanging off JPA's/management's nuts.

 

Zaun is pretty smart when he sticks to talking about the X's and O's of the game and clubhouse type stuff.

He gets dumb when he trys to talk about things like prospects or trades.

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I missed the first part of the segment but apparently they were talking about possibly trading JP.

 

The awesome part was that Jamie Campbell was joining in on the bashing too and hes usually a gross homer.

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I bet JPA will start losing playing time to Thole. This time next year he is either on another team or backing Thole up.
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I bet JPA will start losing playing time to Thole. This time next year he is either on another team or backing Thole up.

Let's hope. This is overdue.

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I almost died.

 

Makes me wonder how you'll react when this actually happens.

 

I assume you'll just become a Cardinals or Rays fan.

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This guy is a piece of s***

 

Holy f***ing hell

 

2 times this game runner on third with less than 2 outs, and he strikes out

 

Worst f***ing player in the f***ing league

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JP's current line:

 

.214/.237/424 75K/6BB

 

Wouldn't be surprised to see the average below .200 and the SLG below .400 by month end.

 

With his OPS under .700, JPA really has nothing left to hang his hat on. Nothing.

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