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  1. BB17
    Not sure the cutter will work for Gauseman since he struggles in getting pitches to move glove side with the way he throws the ball. Guess we will see though!
  2. BB17
    If he has two 3 win seasons bets getting more than f***ing 10M in FA lol.
  3. BB17
    The real question will be if in FA Vladdy signs somewhere else if the Blue jays offer the most $. Then we really find out if he “loves Toronto” I don’t fault the FO for not signing him, however it likely will be a distraction the entire year for all the other players which will be annoying.
  4. BB17
    He reminds me of a mid 2010s Jesse Chavez. Guy who throws 80-120 innings and puts up a low 4 ERA. While not amazing numbers it’s a valuable piece to have in that he can throw multiple innings at a time which is big in preserving a bullpen through the course of a year.
  5. BB17
    I dunno 20M really isn't that much anymore, the Jays have been paying that for a number 3/4 SP on the FA market. Considering they really have no catching options in the pipeline and Kirk is a FA pretty soon I think its not a bad idea to try to get out in front on one of these deals for once. I understand trying to get him for cheaper but guaranteeing him 60M really isn't much, especially for those prime 28-30 age seasons. If he performs well you get his age 31 and 32 years for 25M which 6 years from now is likely what 20M is now in relative dollars. And catchers tend to decline pretty quickly at 32-34 so you aren't committed to paying for any decline years Giminez isn't that much different of a player from him and you just gave up an asset to buy those same 3 FA years (same age) at 23.6M with only 1 club option. What the Jays really need is star players at the very least solid above average talent so I think locking up Kirk who is 3 Win player with potential for 4/5 would be a solid move.
  6. BB17
    AA also signed tons of other young stars so maybe he just is a really good negotiator and can get these guys to sign below average deals. I'm of the opinion Id rather pay a little bit more now and get a deal that still can provide surplus value and fill a hole/position. The closer a player gets to FA the likely chance he tests the market, look no further than Bo/Vladdy. If Kirk says I'll sign for the following right now, but the other option is him testing FA after next season are you signing him or letting it ride out? 2026 $8M 2027 18M 2028 20M 2029 20M 2030 and 2031 25M club options with a 2M buyout
  7. BB17
    Usually Catchers don't reach FA until much later in their careers as well though. And now that teams seem to really be paying for younger FA that's why I said 20M. I don't think Kirk would sign for 12M and just tests FA if that's the offer. Contreras got 5/87.5 starting in his age 31 year while Kirk is going to be a FA starting at 28. I'd still be weary of paying Kirk into his early 30s thats why I think if you get 3 FA years at 20M per season its still a pretty good deal considering you are getting his prime without the risk at the end of the deal.
  8. BB17
    Wonder if the Jays have approached Kirk about an extension and what that would look like. You kind of worry about the body long term but he’s actually going to hit FA at a pretty young age of 28. Catchers don’t age that well but if you buy him out of let’s say 4 FA years it might be worth it, especially with how tough it is to get a good C and the Jays having nothing in the farm system at the position. Buying 3/4 FA years out at 20-25M per season seems like a smart deal given how good his defence is and there is upside with the bat to be a 4 Win player.
  9. BB17
    He had a 40 arm according to scouting reports but let the Jays 2B last year with 79MPH from 2nd so it seems theoretically he has the arm for it and has played 3rd in the minors a bit. From what I saw last year he didn't seem awful at 2nd but the footwork/actions is a lot different from the left side of the infield so I guess we'll see. Schneider wasn't terrible at 2nd but he looked horrible at 3rd in 2023. Biggio spent some time at 3rd and didn't look awful so you hope Wagner could transition. If he can play 3rd at close to an average level it would do wonders for the offence vs RHP. You could still have Ernie come in for defense later in the game and against LHP.
  10. BB17
    Also Vegas odds usually have some deadline influence as well. Usually the bad teams sell/get worse or let young players play and the good teams add at the deadline. It can be true that there are a bunch of 80-85 win teams but more than likely by the end of the season there is just as many 90 win teams as there usually is because of variance etc etc.
  11. BB17
    Well FG predicted standings has them has a 81-82 wins, I wouldn't say that's splitting hairs. While I don't think the Jays are a bad team by any means I would agree they seem to have a less than even chance at the playoffs with the current roster. Doesn't mean things can't break their way and they get to 90 wins but the pitching could also break down just as easily and see them fall short of expectations.
  12. BB17
    Something doesn't add up here. FG has the Jays at 81.6 Wins with a 37% chance of making the playoffs. Even FG Depth Charts page has the Jays at 44 WAR total 11th in MLB. 11th in the majors wouldn't be a 91 win team.
  13. BB17
    I read this in Atkins voice.
  14. BB17
    Bo probably wants to test FA, nothing wrong with that its his right.. For all we know the Jays have talked trades with other teams about him but if the offers are crap you may as well hold on to him. Not sure I'd want to sign him long term anways, I feel that skill set could age poorly since his swing his built on being so athletic. Once his bat speed slows down he could really fall off a cliff, not to mention the defense.
  15. BB17
    If he goes out and has a 5+ War season he 100% is opting out, especially with no QO attached to him. Doesnt matter what % of a raise he got, its about how much more he thinks he could get.
  16. BB17
    Yeah if he struggles defensively it’s just going to get louder. Not sure any team that signs him in FA is going to play him at SS anyways so not sure why he would be so against it.
  17. BB17
    Saw a pic of Bo at ST. Looks likes 225 pounds honestly. He might hit 25 homers but I’m afraid what the range is going to look like at SS. Looks way heavier than he did years prior.
  18. BB17
    If Roden and Wagner perform similarly you’re probably better off with Roden in LF and Santander at DH than having Wagner DH and Santander in LF.
  19. BB17
    They really need to get rid of the comp pick penalty for FA. Just penalizes certain players and they have no way around it, like if a guy gets traded mid season(Kikuchi) he somehow is worth millions more than a guy like Pivetta. Unfortunately MLB/The Owners are so anal with getting every advantage they can with the PA that they use it for leverage instead of changing the rule benefit MLB as a whole. I would just get rid of comp picks altogether if it came down to it. Would make there be more trades generating more interest.
  20. BB17
    Im saying the Jays aren't a 90 win team though. They have a higher chance of missing the postseason than they do of making it right now, so I would say that is in theory not a contender? That 2015 team was like a 100 win team talent wise after the deadline and played to a pace around that after the trades, so I feel thats selling them short. I don't even think this Jays team is better than that 2017 team coming into the season.
  21. BB17
    I think a couple weeks ago. They said for AL east teams each team actually is a little bit better but because they all play in the same division an 84 win team on paper is projected for only 82 wins etc..
  22. BB17
    I feel like they'd have to eat money to move Bassit for nothing if Pivetta was only getting that contract. I get the comp pick makes a difference but even Scherzer got less $ on a 1 year deal.
  23. BB17
    Yeah but 10/450 is paying him 45M from 31-36.
  24. BB17
    When were they ever projected for 85 wins? Vegas has their win total at 78.5 and was at 76.5 when they first were released. Fangraphs has them 82-80 in their projected standings.
  25. BB17
    People saying Bregman is overpaid meanwhile willing to give Vladdy 400M lol. Bregman WAR Age 23- 4.7 Age 24- 7.9 Age 25- 8.3 Vladdy Age 23- 3.3 Age 24- 1.3 Age 25-5.5
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