Eat My Shatkins

I think Yesavage has good enough stuff that it won't matter too much what the hitters know or don't know, if he's got his A game going on any give night he will shut teams down. It just remains to be seen if he can stay healthy and consistently bring his best stuff and locate when he pitches. I could see 4-5 fWAR next season. 6+ is certainly a stretch, but I love the optimism.

Get him to quit tipping his pitches. He has 104 saves the last 4 seasons and hits triple digits. I like triple digits.

fg crowd source has Helsley at 2 years $10.8 million AAV All day long yes please

Bo, Cease, Helsley and Imai would be one hell of an off season. Also would be happy if you replaced Cease with Suarez, Helsley with Suarez and Imai with Ponce.

You can't guarantee a return to the world series.

On paper this team should be going after one of the closers to strengthen the bullpen, Helsley, Saurez, Diaz all available as FA's So volatile though, and it seems as though you rarely get the bang for your buck when you pay big money for these guys, at least in terms of fWAR. But is fWAR a good gauge for evaluating a relievers value? Astros paid $19 million AAV for Hader last year and he only put up 1.1 fWAR. The guy is nails though. And as for volatility, look no further than Helsley himself who was an excellent reliever for 3.5 seasons and then after being traded to the Mets last year, just straight up shat the bed. I'll ever forget Brad Hand being a good reliever for a long time, coming to the Jays mid season and blowing chunks down the stretch while the Jays missed the playoffs by a single game with 91 wins. Then he went to free agency, signed elsewhere and immediately went back to being a good reliever again. If Yimi comes back strong and can stay healthy, he'll be a big boost. But if they were to pay for Helsley and he was as good as he's been in St. Louis, I think it'd be worth it. Tough gamble though and could be just wasting payroll. If payroll isn't really a worry though because they are going all in I'd be inclined to pay up for a closer like that and take the gamble.

I thought it was the opposite??

Highly unlikely but man would it be cool if after these years the Jays surprised everyone and finally pulled off a deal to pry Jose Ramirez out of Cleveland for the last few years of his deal. Dude is still a top 5 player in MLB and just imagine an infield defense with JoRam at 3B, Giminez at SS, Clement at 2B and Vladdy at 1B. Maybe he sees all his old buddies just loving life with the Jays and asks out haha

From the presser "Jeff himself is not married to being the closer, is open to anything that makes the team better" While I'm not big on pouring money into the bullpen (so volatile) I wonder if they take a shot at Edwin Diaz or Robert Suarez? Iglesias out there too, older but durable and still performing well. Helsely as well

Jomboy did a video on the tail end of game 7. EFF me that was not a fun watch. Anyways, he had no issue with IKF's lead. He dug up tons of comparables and every single one of the runners was forced out at home when the ball was hit directly to the 2B and he didn't bobble it or mess up the throw. He also showed a ton of examples of runners getting back picked at 3B because they took too big a secondary lead and the defending team put a pick play on. There was even one where Clement got picked off vs the Rockies and McMahon was more than twice as far off the bag on that play as Muncy was and they still got Clement. Could you imagine the backlash if IKF was taking too big of a secondary and got picked off in that scenario? Jomboy did mention that he didn't thin IKF should have slid though, and if he hadn't he might have beaten it out because of how Smith's foot lifted off the plate for a split second before IKF slid in. Phucking hurts man.

I agree, that's why I'm thinking they will go hard after one of the top FA starters. With just Berrios and Yesavage under control in '27 they will want to have another solid starting pitcher under control I would think. Plus they get to keep the prospects. Goddamn would our rotation be awesome on paper if they added Skubal though.

Many don't think so but I do. He's one of the best starters in the game but only has 1 year for control left. Plus two of the biggest suitors for him have loaded rotations already, being the Yankees and Dodgers. I could certainly see the Mets and Red Sox taking a run at him though, which would drive up the price for sure.

Let's say they land Cease and bring back Bo for 2B. How does that stack up from last years 94 win team that also won 10 playoff games? 1. Bo at 2B and Giminez at SS 2. Full year of Bieber instead of Bassitt 3. Cease instead of Lauer in the rotation 4. Full year of Yesavage instead of Scherzer 5. 300 more PA's for Varsho, 300 less for Lukes and Straw 6. Full year of hopefully a healthy Santander (-0.9 fWAR to 1.3 fWAR is a net positive of 2.2 fWAR) That could be fun. Just hoping the Jays get one of Cease/Suarez/Valdez and one of Bo/Tucker/Belly Make the Yankees their beeyotch again

The only starters under control for 2027 are Berrios and Yesavage. Have to think the Jays will be gunning hard for one of Cease/Saurez/Valdez.

Most likely, and with Barger getting some reps at 3B but mostly in RF.

I would love it if the Jays could get Varsho extended. Would solidify the middle of the diamond for multiple years with Giminez at SS, Clement at 2B, Kirk at C and Varsho in CF. Even better if they can lock down Bo with the agreement he moves to 2B. While he obviously isn't the defensive player Clement is, I think he'd be an above average 2B with the 130 wRC+ bat.

The only way the Jays trade Yesavage is if they've had a good look from the inside under the hood and don't think his performance is sustainable. Kid has ice in his veins. An MLB regular season is going to be a walk in the park for him probably after having nothing but pressure filled starts to this point.

Obviously, Bieber knowing he'll be pitching in a contract year with the best defense in baseball behind him and a legit chance to win factored in huge here.

Does Nimmala, Tiedemann, King get you Skubal?

Man, what a tidy piece of business to get taken care of before the off-season has even gotten going. A potential top of the rotation arm for $16 million. Great start. Now go get Skubal.

You would think at some point this winter they will announce an extension. Seems crazy to take this option when he clearly could have went to free agency and gotten at worst 2x$25million AAV or something like that.

He sure seemed to like it with the Jays, thought an extension might happen but no way did I think he'd take his option.. Awesome news. More payroll flexibility for a team that might be spending huge money anyways.

Unfinished business.

Holy phuckballs that is fantastic news! Wow. Literally shocked. 1. Bieber 2. Gausman 3. Yesavage 4. Berrios 5. Lauer I wonder if they look to bring the Hound back, or if they try to go hunting for a bigger fish.

If they did all that and were able to unload Berrios somewhere, I think that'd put them close to $300 million payroll. Would be pretty damn sweet. You'd have last years team but with Bieber, Yesavage and Domiguez from the beginning. And hopefully a healthy Varsho and Giminez. As long as they didn't have a ton of regression it's probably a 95+ win team.