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Perhaps. He may also have loved the production with RISP also - as Turner is one of a few that seemingly consistently hits better with RISP. But - that's not my point. At the time they signed, I suspect the outcome probabilities were similar for both players. Joc is producing in like the 90th percentile outcome, while Turner is producing in like the 30th percentile outcome. That is outside of the GM's control. There's also no guarantee (or anyway of knowing) that Joc would be producing the same in Toronto as he is in Arizona.

No - it did. I agree that what Omar said wasn't the same as the BS that LTBF said. However, it was still criticism (or questioning) that the organization wasn't handling their pitchers correctly. The Dodgers have had issues with both: - pitchers getting hurt; and - injured pitchers getting healthy and coming back to help the team (Dustin May has been hurt for seemingly 7 straight years now). Thus - I thought what Omar was saying was relevant. And yes I acknowledge that Omar was more asking a question instead of just insisting the Jays must be f***ing everything up. I thought they would be more receipts OK? Maybe there were, but I wasn't looking for more than 2 minutes and I needed more than 1 receipt...sorry Omar. And yes my good friend jaysblue - I do use examples to help illustrate that issues like this often are often seen across the league - including within other great organizations. I think that's a logical thing to do - you know, use examples to support my position.

He's joking at Mr. Pelfrey was trying to downplay how good Carrasco and Brantley were. Man - that Sizemore, Lee and Phillips for Colon deal was one of the best ever. Who made that deal again?

I would have preferred Joc over Turner myself and I'm sure this just adds to my lor as an Atkins apologetic, but hear me out. Pederson's last 4 seasons (wRC+) 86, 96, 146, 111 He was projected for a 115 wRC+ this year and is a strict platoon player. Joc was projected for 1.1 WAR, Turner for 1.0 WAR. What was the probability that Joc Pederson had a good year and outperformed his projections? I suspect it was similar to the probability that Turner did - although perhaps you could argue that Joc's age gave him the advantage. However, as a minimum, I suspect probabilities for Pederson and Turner are a lot closer than people want to admit. You also could factor in that Pederson likely only gives you 425-450 PA's a year, whereas Turner likes gives you 550-600. Although I would have preferred Pederson (due to him being a lefty and having more power), I don't agree with a suggestion that signing Turner over Pederson was some god awful decision. Those saying that are looking at today's results, not the probabilities when the signings were made. I agree with Term and Laika that at the end of the day, this decision doesn't have a major impact on the season, but fans will latch onto anything they can these days to feed their internal hatred of the team.

Many said the same thing about J.D. Martinez this offseason too. It is really odd that no team has given him a call.

RISP production? I don't know.

That is bizarre. Would love to hear their side of the story.

His proof that Cleveland was desperate to get rid of Shapiro is an online comment from someone suggesting they hate him more than Osama bin Laden. Say no more sir. People may want to find the "remove thanks" button.

I wonder what % of 1st round picks never player in the majors or have very short, useless careers. I bet it's extremely high. I don't see much evidence that it actually gets GM's fired. It gets you fired in the NFL for sure, maybe in the NBA or NHL, but even they have tons of busts too.

Counting must not be your thing. But hey - anytime I can point out that LTBF is a wrong - I'll take the dub.

Would you shut the f*** up.

Not according to MLB, BA and the Sporting News, who all rank Yesavage over Caminiti. Teams are probably worried that Caminiti has been on PEDs since the age of 4.

The Dodgers need pitching....not sure they're giving much up right now when they have like 14 on the IL.

As requested.

He's the 11th ranked player. BPA and Org need

Have a weekend ump.

This kind of action just isn't effective. If we were actually in the playoff race, I could see them fire the manager as a wake up message or a way to "try something new". At this point, it's not really worth it. I believe very few GM's are fired in season. You CERTAINLY don't do that the day before the draft, or this close to the trade deadline.

2nd lowest ERA of his very good career

It's almost like we've talked about this at nauseum already...

#facts

Weren't people suggesting the Jays must be doing something wrong with the development of their pitchers because so many are injured? What are the Dodgers currently doing?

I'm not sure how anyone could see this any differently.

I'm pretty sure it's not, so you can breath easy.

If you didn't buy tickets in 2015 or 2016, you probably never will. You sound miserable.

Curious why you say that. Because we have Kirk? Because 1st round catchers typically bust? We need to go BPA, regardless of position IMO.