TwistedLogic

I know the infield, and well, the offense in general is pretty clogged up for the Jays at this point (a wonderful problem to have) but I still would have liked to see them in on this. Love Arenado.

I know this has been discussed a bit already but I thought it was big enough to warrant a thread, especially since it doesn't sound like all the info is out yet and might not be immediately.

Can someone please explain to me why nobody's talking about Marcell Ozuna? I don't think I've seen a single big report on where he stands or which teams are after him and I almost forgot that he's a free agent. Guy posted 2.5 fWAR in 60 games and he's only 30 years old.

That's hilarious. Got a link?

lmao @ the offer the Athletics made to Semien:

lol, I picked Foley as a breakout back in the 2015 version of this thread.

Yeah, I'd rather they not have done this. Should have just cut the guys to open roster space and saved the 5M until they knew they were done spending. A guy like Matz isn't going anywhere and you can get that type of arm at any point. Of course, that's assuming they don't have some magic key to fix Matz and they specifically wanted him for that reason.

The above list is ranked by projected WAR (FanGraphs), which is what I used in the "WAR" column next to the players names. While sorting by projected WAR felt like the most intuitive way of doing it, I know that inherently undervalues the relievers, so here's a separate list of the RPs on FanGraphs' free agent board:

Included in this post are two ranking lists for the best remaining free agents on the market for the 2021 season. 1st List: The first list uses the FanGraphs Top 50 Free Agents list that was published on October 30, 2020. I've made a couple of small tweaks on this list in instances where the current day projected WAR is vastly different than the Steamer projections that were used when that list was originally published. For instance, FanGraphs ranked JT Realmuto above George Springer at the time because Realmuto had a 4.4 WAR projection, while Springer was at 4.7. Today, Springer's projection has only adjusted down to 4.5, while Realmuto fell hard to 3.8. In this instance, it makes no sense to rank Realmuto over Springer. For the purposes of clarity, however, I have expanded the list to include both current day projections (3rd column) and projections at the time that FanGraphs published their list (4th column). 2nd List: The second list in this post ranks players based flatly on their 2021 projected WAR as noted in the FanGraphs Free Agent tracker. This is the original list that I started this post with and has the benefit of going above 50 players. The pitfall of this list is that it inherently undervalues relievers (lower projected WAR) but the plus is that the projections are more accurate. As the projections are constantly changing, I'm attempting to keep this list updated as well. 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[color="#D3D3D3"]34 | JA Happ 1.4 MIN [/color] [color="#D3D3D3"]35 | Chris Flexen 1.4 KBO [/color] [color="#D3D3D3"]36 | Jonathan Schoop 1.4 DET [/color] [color="#D3D3D3"]37 | Anthony DeSclafani 1.3 SFG [/color] [color="#D3D3D3"]38 | Wilson Ramos 1.3 DET [/color] [color="#D3D3D3"]39 | Enrique Hernandez 1.3 BOS [/color] [color="#D3D3D3"]40 | Martin Perez 1.2 BOS [/color] [color="#D3D3D3"]41 | Taijuan Walker 1.2 NYM [/color] [color="#D3D3D3"]42 | Robbie Grossman 1.2 DET [/color] [color="#D3D3D3"]43 | Matt Shoemaker 1.2 MIN [/color] [color="#D3D3D3"]44 | Adam Eaton 1.1 CHW [/color] [color="#D3D3D3"]45 | Alex Wood 1.1 SFG [/color] [color="#D3D3D3"]46 | Adam Wainwright 1.1 STL [/color] [color="#D3D3D3"]47 | Mike Zunino 1.1 TBR [/color] [color="#D3D3D3"]48 | Jackie Bradley Jr. 1.1 MIL [/color] [color="#D3D3D3"]49 | Jason Castro 1.0 SDP [/color] [color="#D3D3D3"]50 | Brett Anderson 1.0 MIL [/color] [color="#D3D3D3"]51 | Liam Hendricks 1.0 CHW [/color] [color="#D3D3D3"]52 | Brett Gardner 1.0 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O'Day to the Yankees. Very solid signing, guy outperforms his advanced stats like clockwork. Not sad about him going to the Yankees though, since he's also a bitch.

I think the key is that it's a one year deal. He's still young enough that he could come back next year and still get a 3-4 year deal. Probably had a very specific set of things he wanted here and if he didn't get it, I don't blame the guy at all for wanting to be back home, especially when Japan is doing so much better than the embarrassment that is the States when it comes to the pandemic.

One of the more attractive options off the table for the Blue Jays rotation. Still lots of guys available.

Why am I not surprised that it was Steve Simmons of all people that asked the first Astros scandal question during the press conference. Crusty f***.

David Ortiz is going to be a clear first-ballot hall of famer, despite not being as good as Edgar Martinez, who they took forever to induct. Even if A-Rod doesn't get in, he'll get at least 60% of the vote on his first go-around and eventually make it in before his time expires on the ballot.

Oh, I know. But my lineup isn't based on what Montoyo will do. It's how I'd build it. Montoyo's lineup will look nothing like mine.

Revised lineup: 1 | 2B | Cavan Biggio 2 | CF | George Springer 3 | SS | Bo Bichette 4 | LF | Lourdes Gurriel Jr 5 | 1B | Vladimir Guerrero Jr 6 | CA | Alejandro Kirk 7 | RF | Teoscar Hernandez 8 | DH | Rowdy Tellez 9 | 3B | Marcus Semien Bench: Danny Jansen (Backup Catcher) Randal Grichuk (4th OF) Santiago Espinal (Utility) Reese McGuire? League Min Signing? Mmmmmmmmmh.

👀 Didn't think this would be relevant so quickly, lmao.

So if I'm building a lineup, I'm trying to get Kirk in the batting order every day. Projection systems love him and I want to see him get as much playing time as possible to prove what he can do over a legitimate sample size. It just comes down to whether I want Kirk as the primary starting catcher and DH'ing in his off days (when Jansen fills in at catcher) or if I want him as the primary DH and catching on Jansen's off days (where Tellez then fills in at DH).

Question: If the Jays do acquire another bat for whatever reason (ie: Semien, Bryant, whoever else) and you get to move Vlad to 1st, do you run Kirk as your primary catcher to get both him and Tellez in the every day lineup? Or do you share playing time between Kirk and Tellez and still run Jansen as your starting catcher? Kirk and Tellez were two of the better bats on last year's team and both project among the top 5 on the team for 2021 as well.

Taillon didn't count the Yankees much at all, at least on paper. I'm sure the Pirates have their own reasons for liking those prospects, but none of the guys the Yankees gave up were top 10 in their own system, either by MLB Pipeline, or by FanGraphs.

Team still needs a rotation. The "hit them to death" strategy has been proven to not be very effective time and time again due to the streaky nature of hitting. Interested to see how Shatkins address it. Tons of options still on the table.

I'll start things off with my line-up for 2021. This is obviously contingent on them not trading any of these guys away and not bringing in anybody better. I feel like I'll tinker with this a lot but it's currently where my head is at in the moment just based on the last couple of years and Steamer projections for 2021. 1 - 2B - Cavan Biggio 2 - CF - George Springer 3 - SS - Bo Bichette 4 - LF - Lourdes Gurriel Jr 5 - 3B - Vladimir Guerrero Jr 6 - RF - Teoscar Hernandez 7 - DH - Alejandro Kirk 8 - 1B - Rowdy Tellez 9 - CA - Danny Jansen