Blue Jays (Soriano) vs Rangers (Quantrill): 9/19/26, 7:05pm

[Brandon Glick]

Have to win these next two games to have any shot over the last week of the season...

[Brandon Glick]

	MON	TUE	WED	THU	FRI	TOT
Tyler Rogers	0	0	0	0	0	0
Spencer Miles	0	0	35	0	0	35
Spencer Arrighetti	0	52	0	0	0	52
Paul Sewald	7	0	0	0	0	7
Mason Fluharty	0	0	11	0	0	11
Louis Varland	31	0	14	0	0	45
José Rodríguez	0	0	0	0	24	24
Joe Mantiply	16	20	0	0	21	57
Brendon Little	0	15	0	0	25	40
Brendan Cellucci	0	25	0	0	13	38
Braydon Fisher	0	25	0	0	23	48

[Olerud363.354]

I know I am saying the same thing over and over again.  But not impressed with the early returns on Soriano. 

His stuff on TV looks amazing.  Like 99 with crazy movement.  Then he just doesn't get the swing and miss you'd expect, and invevitably there's inning with 1 walk and 3 singles and he can't get a k when he needs. 

What am I missing?  Is this just bad luck ?  Is he going to be a sinker monster that can be elite with 8ks per 9 and massive ground ball rate?   Just seems the contact inevitably leads to inning with clustered contact, and no k when he needs it. 

[SeranthonySantander]

This is a must win.  If we win and guardians lose, chances of playoffs remain high.  If we lose, the season is likely over.

[jaysblue]

How the hell does Cal Quantrill have a 2.90 ERA? 

[hanton]

50 minutes ago, Olerud363.354 said:

I know I am saying the same thing over and over again.  But not impressed with the early returns on Soriano. 

His stuff on TV looks amazing.  Like 99 with crazy movement.  Then he just doesn't get the swing and miss you'd expect, and invevitably there's inning with 1 walk and 3 singles and he can't get a k when he needs. 

What am I missing?  Is this just bad luck ?  Is he going to be a sinker monster that can be elite with 8ks per 9 and massive ground ball rate?   Just seems the contact inevitably leads to inning with clustered contact, and no k when he needs it. 

a solid #4 starter at worst, that's still valuable;  we'd all like 5 Dylan Ceases'

[Olerud363.354]

12 minutes ago, hanton said:

a solid #4 starter at worst, that's still valuable;  we'd all like 5 Dylan Ceases'

Right.  But should be able to get a #3 or #4 without giving up so much prospect capitol.  Develop or sign. 

[glory]

1 hour ago, Olerud363.354 said:

I know I am saying the same thing over and over again.  But not impressed with the early returns on Soriano. 

His stuff on TV looks amazing.  Like 99 with crazy movement.  Then he just doesn't get the swing and miss you'd expect, and invevitably there's inning with 1 walk and 3 singles and he can't get a k when he needs. 

What am I missing?  Is this just bad luck ?  Is he going to be a sinker monster that can be elite with 8ks per 9 and massive ground ball rate?   Just seems the contact inevitably leads to inning with clustered contact, and no k when he needs it. 

Considering what they gave up for him, I think this is a case of feeling that Soriano has another gear in him. Same logic behind giving Cease what many considered an overpay last winter but knowing the underlying numbers and maybe tinkering with his pitch mix can lead to better results. Soriano and Spaghetti felt like more 2027-beyond trades rather than 2026 trades. The Jays making a small run in August clouded that a bit. 

[Spanky__99]

1 hour ago, jaysblue said:

How the hell does Cal Quantrill have a 2.90 ERA? 

Sub 2 ERA since mid July

[Spanky__99]

1 hour ago, Olerud363.354 said:

I know I am saying the same thing over and over again.  But not impressed with the early returns on Soriano. 

His stuff on TV looks amazing.  Like 99 with crazy movement.  Then he just doesn't get the swing and miss you'd expect, and invevitably there's inning with 1 walk and 3 singles and he can't get a k when he needs. 

What am I missing?  Is this just bad luck ?  Is he going to be a sinker monster that can be elite with 8ks per 9 and massive ground ball rate?   Just seems the contact inevitably leads to inning with clustered contact, and no k when he needs it. 

 

55 minutes ago, Olerud363.354 said:

Right.  But should be able to get a #3 or #4 without giving up so much prospect capitol.  Develop or sign. 

[G-Snarls]

Just win today and see what happens

[Masterbather]

29 minutes ago, Spanky__99 said:

 

What's he wrong about exactly? 

He hasn't been that impressive.

Considering what they traded he needs to be more than an average rotation starter.

I'm sure they see him as a bit of a project that they think will get better, but so far it hasn't been good enough. 

He shows flashes, but he always has. There's a real question of whether he can be consistent.

 

[jaysblue]

54 minutes ago, Spanky__99 said:

Sub 2 ERA since mid July

I remember during the offseason, someone on here mentioned his name about signing him as a depth arm or something. Would have been a nice arm to have this season. 

[Stangstag]

3 hours ago, Olerud363.354 said:

I know I am saying the same thing over and over again.  But not impressed with the early returns on Soriano. 

His stuff on TV looks amazing.  Like 99 with crazy movement.  Then he just doesn't get the swing and miss you'd expect, and invevitably there's inning with 1 walk and 3 singles and he can't get a k when he needs. 

What am I missing?  Is this just bad luck ?  Is he going to be a sinker monster that can be elite with 8ks per 9 and massive ground ball rate?   Just seems the contact inevitably leads to inning with clustered contact, and no k when he needs it. 

Give him an offseason/spring to work with the team and lets re-evaluate.

Either way, good pickup to help solidify the rotation going forward 

[Landry_25]

21 minutes ago, Stangstag said:

Give him an offseason/spring to work with the team and lets re-evaluate.

Either way, good pickup to help solidify the rotation going forward 

Yes exactly. Kinda early to tell, he was best pitcher in all of baseball the first month or so, last outing showed signs of brilliance (before imploding) lol. Young and controllable, very good pick up anyway I think. Maybe not a true #2 necessarily but damn if we had a full rotation it would be some good…just hope there is baseball next year 

[ComeTogether]

2 hours ago, SeranthonySantander said:

This is a must win.  If we win and guardians lose, chances of playoffs remain high.  If we lose, the season is likely over.

Must win series for sure. Gotta win today first. 

Last gasp 

[Spanky__99]

27 year old traded to a new franchise, scuffles a bit in a small sample with said team... he suxxxx

On the Year he's 32nd in SP fWAR and 24th in RA9 WAR 3.5... going into Arb at 2.9M meaning he's a bargain for a few more years, GTFOH with that nonsense.

[Omar]

 

https://www.nbcsports.com/fantasy/baseball/player-news/2026-09-18/arjun-nimmala-hits-fifth-homer-in-five-games

[Spanky__99]

1 minute ago, Omar said:

 

https://www.nbcsports.com/fantasy/baseball/player-news/2026-09-18/arjun-nimmala-hits-fifth-homer-in-five-games

I hope he does well, I don't mind that trade at all. For both sides.

[ComeTogether]

 

 

[max silver]

2 hours ago, Masterbather said:

What's he wrong about exactly? 

He hasn't been that impressive.

Considering what they traded he needs to be more than an average rotation starter.

I'm sure they see him as a bit of a project that they think will get better, but so far it hasn't been good enough. 

He shows flashes, but he always has. There's a real question of whether he can be consistent.

 

Soriano has been outright dominant at times. I think a huge reason why his ERA is inflated is due to his manager having little to no feel for when to pull him from games. I can recall 2 or 3 outings when Soriano was obviously struggling to command his pitches and the opposition was having a field day in the later innings. His relievers haven't been doing him a lot of favors with preventing inherited runners to score either.

[G-Snarls]

Just win this game to at least keep it interesting 

[G-Snarls]

And I want to see Soriano at his best

[Olerud363.354]

48 minutes ago, max silver said:

I think a huge reason why his ERA is inflated is due to his manager having little to no feel for when to pull him from games.

Given the bullpen situation not sure there has been too many it was obvious you needed to pull him. 

Seems like a few times he's been cruising with a low pitch count then gives up a few singles and doesn't have the swing and miss to get out of it.

Like I believe a couple times they had to pull in the 5th (Philly and Cleveland), a couple in the 6th (NY and Tampa, and once in the 7th (65 pitches an no hitter headed to the 7th).

I think in all of these cases he was cruising, and there wasn't time to get the bullpen ready before had 3 or 4 guys on. 

Seems like this is just what a guy with 6 ks an inning and medium walk rate will do.   Contact and walks lead to baserunners in a hurry.   Maybe he'll get better. 

 

[max silver]

1 hour ago, Olerud363.354 said:

Given the bullpen situation not sure there has been too many it was obvious you needed to pull him. 

Seems like a few times he's been cruising with a low pitch count then gives up a few singles and doesn't have the swing and miss to get out of it.

Like I believe a couple times they had to pull in the 5th (Philly and Cleveland), a couple in the 6th (NY and Tampa, and once in the 7th (65 pitches an no hitter headed to the 7th).

I think in all of these cases he was cruising, and there wasn't time to get the bullpen ready before had 3 or 4 guys on. 

Seems like this is just what a guy with 6 ks an inning and medium walk rate will do.   Contact and walks lead to baserunners in a hurry.   Maybe he'll get better. 

 

The most recent example was the perfect game that completely unraveled third time through the order. Soriano was repeatedly making mistakes in the danger zone and the opposition was crushing the mistakes. I think Schneider was asleep at the switch and waited far too long to get someone warming in the pen, and this immediately led to 4 runs scoring in that inning. I also recall a previous game where Soriano was brought back to begin another inning despite already having thrown something in the neighborhood of 95 pitches, and he immediately proceeded to load the bases without recording a single out. This created an impossible situation for the bullpen and eventually all 3 runs crossed the plate. 

[ComeTogether]

Sox win

Guardian winning

Pretty much nail in coffin 

[glory]

The AL Central putting belt to ass on the teams the Jays choked against. Not fun. 

[Omar]

What kind of swing was that Vladdy?  Is he even trying?

[Rynodb1]

f***. 

[SeranthonySantander]

Being down 1 is like running for this team