Jays24 Old-Timey Member Posted April 6 Posted April 6 Even with all our starting pitching injuries, that isnt even the reason why we've been losing. Gonna have to score runs, especially against a stacked lineup like the Dodgers. jaysblue 1
jaysblue Old-Timey Member Posted April 6 Posted April 6 1 minute ago, Brownie19 said: Corbin actually hasn't been half bad the past 2 years. xFIP of like 4.21 (4.14 in 2024), which was better than Matthew Boyd, Holmes, Singer, Kikuchi, Ray, etc. last year. LFG man - we need you NOW. Yeah as a guy who could provide bulk innings, he's pretty much a lefty version of Chris Bassitt at a fraction of the cost.
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted April 6 Posted April 6 4 minutes ago, Jays24 said: Even with all our starting pitching injuries, that isnt even the reason why we've been losing. Gonna have to score runs, especially against a stacked lineup like the Dodgers. Do you not think this offense has what it takes? I just looked and we're actually 4th in MLB in wxOBA, which I wouldn't have expected.
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted April 6 Posted April 6 10 minutes ago, Brownie19 said: It's difficult to express how much fun the start to this season has been. Where the f*ck is Patrick Corbin? Wasn't he already throwing? He made a start yesterday i think?
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted April 6 Posted April 6 5 minutes ago, Jays24 said: Even with all our starting pitching injuries, that isnt even the reason why we've been losing. Gonna have to score runs, especially against a stacked lineup like the Dodgers. To boldly claim this is just naive. Of course its likely to have impacted the team. Using different pitchers in different spots. offense pressing harder to match, etc. Its all a ripple effect. Plus the Kirk injury alone arguably lost us 2 games. But no, in your WISE opinion, the team just stinks.
Laika Community Moderator Posted April 6 Posted April 6 13 minutes ago, Brownie19 said: Do you not think this offense has what it takes? I just looked and we're actually 4th in MLB in wxOBA, which I wouldn't have expected. I was following some of this CWS series on Gameday and the amount of outs hit around 100mph was hilarious Stangstag 1
Jays24 Old-Timey Member Posted April 6 Posted April 6 19 minutes ago, Brownie19 said: Do you not think this offense has what it takes? I just looked and we're actually 4th in MLB in wxOBA, which I wouldn't have expected. We have no clue about the offense tbh. Its already been stated by numerous folks if a lot of guys can repeat their 2025 seasons so we'll find out. Losing Bo over 162 hurts more than some are stating imo. And those numbers are against 3 of the worst teams in baseball where youd expect better results. Still surprising to me to see that because it hasnt looked that way watching the games.
Jays24 Old-Timey Member Posted April 6 Posted April 6 17 minutes ago, Stangstag said: To boldly claim this is just naive. Of course its likely to have impacted the team. Using different pitchers in different spots. offense pressing harder to match, etc. Its all a ripple effect. Plus the Kirk injury alone arguably lost us 2 games. But no, in your WISE opinion, the team just stinks. I am not speaking about the long term impacts yet. Yes, if we trend this way then it'll become a massive concern but we already have 3 starters on their way to help. Just gotta stay afloat during this time on that front. And to say the team has flaws in particular areas does not mean the overall team sucks. Stangstag 1
John_Havok Old-Timey Member Posted April 6 Posted April 6 1 minute ago, Jays24 said: We have no clue about the offense tbh. Its already been stated by numerous folks if a lot of guys can repeat their 2025 seasons so we'll find out. Losing Bo over 162 hurts more than some are stating imo. And those numbers are against 3 of the worst teams in baseball where youd expect better results. Still surprising to me to see that because it hasnt looked that way watching the games. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. Sometimes... it rains. Think about that. Smokinitup420 and Stangstag 2
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted April 6 Posted April 6 26 minutes ago, Jays24 said: I am not speaking about the long term impacts yet. Yes, if we trend this way then it'll become a massive concern but we already have 3 starters on their way to help. Just gotta stay afloat during this time on that front. And to say the team has flaws in particular areas does not mean the overall team sucks. One thing to remember too, is that these are 3 of the worst teams LAST YEAR. Doesn’t mean they will all be so bad in 2026. Reminds me of when the Orioles started manhandling us near the end of 2022. That was NOT the same squad that we easily handled in 2021 and lost 100+ games. And teams probably thought the same about us going from 2024 into 2025… Smokinitup420 and mphenhef 2
jaysblue Old-Timey Member Posted April 6 Posted April 6 21 minutes ago, Jays24 said: We have no clue about the offense tbh. Its already been stated by numerous folks if a lot of guys can repeat their 2025 seasons so we'll find out. Losing Bo over 162 hurts more than some are stating imo. And those numbers are against 3 of the worst teams in baseball where youd expect better results. Still surprising to me to see that because it hasnt looked that way watching the games. It’s still early, so I’m not writing off the offense just yet. That said, if there was one area of the roster that looked most vulnerable coming into the season, it was the lineup. There were already several plausible concerns: Springer potentially regressing, Barger going through a sophomore slump, Vladdy not carrying over his postseason form, and the decision to dedicate two lineup spots to both Clement and Gimenez. On top of that, there was the possibility of Varsho once again hovering around the Mendoza Line with a sub-100 wRC+, while Okamoto could need time to adjust to MLB pitching out of the gate. Put all of that together, and it’s not hard to see why the offense looked like the part of the roster most likely to run into some turbulence. Losing a bat like Bo definitely lowered the floor, especially if other hitters don’t replicate their 2025 production and injuries start to pile up. Losing Kirk already hurts, and if Barger misses time too, that only adds to the concern. I’m not saying the Jays should have matched the ridiculous money the Mets gave Bo, but the reality is his absence could be felt if too many other things go wrong offensively. To the front office’s credit, they did make a push for elite talent this offseason. They went after Tucker, but it didn’t work out. So while the results may leave questions, it’s hard to say they didn’t at least recognize the need and try to address it. It’s still early, so it’s not all doom and gloom just yet. The Jays just can’t afford for every one of those concerns to hit at the same time, because that’s when things could really get turbulent. If only a couple of those issues show up instead of all of them at once, this lineup should still be good enough to hang around. The key right now is just to survive April, stay around .500, and give the team a chance to find its rhythm. If they can do that, there’s still plenty of time for them to heat up and go on a run in May. Let’s hope that’s how it plays out. Stangstag, Jays24 and Brownie19 3
jaysblue Old-Timey Member Posted April 6 Posted April 6 6 minutes ago, Stangstag said: One thing to remember too, is that these are 3 of the worst teams LAST YEAR. Doesn’t mean they will all be so bad in 2026. Reminds me of when the Orioles started manhandling us near the end of 2022. That was NOT the same squad that we easily handled in 2021 and lost 100+ games. And teams probably thought the same about us going from 2024 into 2025… The Rockies and White Sox are still very bad on paper, but I agree they probably won’t be quite as bad as they were in 2025. The A’s, meanwhile, are a team I actually like as an AL sleeper, and the Jays did sweep them. That said, a few of those games easily could have gone the other way. The bigger issue is that the Jays went 1-5 against the White Sox and Rockies, which is obviously not good enough no matter how you slice it. Even if those teams may not be quite as bad as they were in 2025, they’re still clubs Toronto should have handled better. That’s why the concern around the offense is fair. Still, it’s early enough that this stretch doesn’t have to define the season, especially if they can steady things, hang around .500 in April, and start heating up in May.
Jonn Old-Timey Member Posted April 6 Posted April 6 Dodgers come in as a defending champs 7-2 Blue Jays wondering where they are going next as a franchise after being hamulated and beaten to a pulp by the Colorado Rockies and Chicago White Sox.
Terminator Old-Timey Member Posted April 6 Posted April 6 Schneids just told the media scrum that everyone on the entire team is projectile vomiting from both ends (yes, you read that right). I'm inclined to give the team a mulligan for the past week but they better be taking their pepto for this series. We can't let the Dodgers get away with it. Stangstag 1
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted April 6 Posted April 6 21 minutes ago, Jonn said: Dodgers come in as a defending champs 7-2 Blue Jays wondering where they are going next as a franchise after being hamulated and beaten to a pulp by the Colorado Rockies and Chicago White Sox.
Jonn Old-Timey Member Posted April 6 Posted April 6 7 minutes ago, Stangstag said: What were not being dramatic anymore?
Jonn Old-Timey Member Posted April 6 Posted April 6 26 minutes ago, Terminator said: Schneids just told the media scrum that everyone on the entire team is projectile vomiting from both ends (yes, you read that right). I'm inclined to give the team a mulligan for the past week but they better be taking their pepto for this series. We can't let the Dodgers get away with it. It would explain the complete suckage we have experianced. Stangstag 1
mphenhef Verified Member Posted April 6 Posted April 6 27 minutes ago, Terminator said: Schneids just told the media scrum that everyone on the entire team is projectile vomiting from both ends (yes, you read that right). I'm inclined to give the team a mulligan for the past week but they better be taking their pepto for this series. We can't let the Dodgers get away with it. They better be coughing on the ball and in the dodgers clubhouse all they can. Heck, let’s get stadium ops venting the Jays bathroom into the Dodgers clubhouse. John_Havok 1
gruber9292 Verified Member Posted April 6 Posted April 6 Just now, Stangstag said: That was the meatball of all meatballs lol A lot of sauce on that meatball.
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted April 6 Posted April 6 2 minutes ago, Spanky__99 said: Damn, Teo... Grrr He’s gonna have a big series I think
gruber9292 Verified Member Posted April 6 Posted April 6 Get Springer out of the lead off spot for now until he finds it like last year.
VladdyAlomar Verified Member Posted April 6 Posted April 6 The Blue Jays already getting smacked around by the Dodgers 😩—four-game skid, .239 team BA that's straight garbage, and Springer hitting a pathetic .158. LA's offense is nuking at .285 with 31 runs in their last three. Scherzer's battling, but no Berrios + bullpen imploding? L5 incoming. Org can't buy a W early season. Wake TF up, Jays.
ComeTogether Verified Member Posted April 6 Posted April 6 8 minutes ago, Stangstag said: That was the meatball of all meatballs lol The Max meat ball 9 minutes ago, HomeRunHomer said: meat ball
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