Jays Signing Cease 7 years 210M

[Waylanderz]

Huge signing.  Finally something positive to talk about.

[The_DH]

Is the next move maybe to trade Berrios for a closer?  

[Maahfaace]

Love this signing! A whole lot of Cease to exist ABs coming for hitters!

[saskjayfan]

I drink coors light when I go out and I'm driving.  Lower alcohol content.  Don't want to drink and drive.  The Jays might be Dodger light.  Like i wouldn't be surprised if our payroll is 310 or 320.  We're going to flex this off season..lol.  Fans are going to hate us for buying a team.  I love it!

[saskjayfan]

1 minute ago, The_DH said:

Is the next move maybe to trade Berrios for a closer?  

Or trade him and prospects for Buxton and convince Bassitt to come back on the cheap!

[BTS]

 

[bronson44]

It`s just so cool that we are here. It was so frustrating for years with all the well we have only 18 million to spend this offseason to fit into our mid payroll parameters (remember passing the hat lol).

They were sitting on a goldmine and I was longing for them to at least get up to the first luxury tax threshold but they would not. It`s very satisfying that we finally put on our big boy pants. Don`t stop now.

[G-Snarls]

Holy s*** 

Wanted Cease and Bo more than anyone else 

If they can afford it then do it 

Yankees and Red Sox can suck a dick 

[G-Snarls]

So they're going over the next tier luxury tax for a year 

So be it 

This is awesome 

[Laika]

Cease, Goose, Biebs, Savage, Lauerios is wild 

[Ray]

So it’s actually closer to $182M over 7 years with the deferrals? Thats basically what he was projected to get

Massive W by Boss Atkins to get the best pitcher on the board this early in the offseason for basically what he was projected to get. 

[BTS]

2 minutes ago, Ray said:

So it’s actually closer to $182M over 7 years with the deferrals? Thats basically what he was projected to get

Massive W by Boss Atkins to get the best pitcher on the board this early in the offseason for basically what he was projected to get. 

It's a massive coup. The more I think about, Cease is clearly the most desirable arm on the market factoring in age/durability/skill/not being an ******* who deliberately crosses up your catcher

[Omar]

[gruber9292]

Nice signing.. 

[The_DH]

5 minutes ago, Ray said:

So it’s actually closer to $182M over 7 years with the deferrals? Thats basically what he was projected to get

Massive W by Boss Atkins to get the best pitcher on the board this early in the offseason for basically what he was projected to get. 

It's a major f'ing statement, that's what it is.  It clearly defines Toronto as a place to be.  So Bo or Tucker and some moves for the bullpen.  

[Sasky05]

28 minutes ago, Waylanderz said:

Huge signing.  Finally something positive to talk about.

You mean Bieber wasn't something to talk about. Look around the MLB, this is easily the biggest news of the off-season so far. Bieber opting in is also up there! Don't worry, be happy! These two deals are a fantastic start to the Jays off-season!

[Laika]

fWAR since 2021... Cease and Gausman rank #3 and #4 in MLB. 

[Omar]

4 minutes ago, Laika said:

fWAR since 2021... Cease and Gausman rank #3 and #4 in MLB. 

Was 2022 an anomaly for Cease?

[thatoneguy]

One thing going under the radar here for Cease is that he going from below average framing (SD) to one of the best in all of MLB in Kirk. Obviously the ABS system will devalue it a bit, but you can’t challenge every call.

[BTS]

Gray and Cease coming off the board the last two days while Baltimore is sitting on like 2 MLB starters 

[Laika]

1 minute ago, Omar said:

Was 2022 an anomaly for Cease?

Probably but he's been surprisingly consistent if you ignore ERA 

[Omar]

Just now, Laika said:

Probably but he's been surprisingly consistent if you ignore ERA 

Yeah, agreed.  I see people saying he is up and down but if you look at his FIP by year it is remarkably consistent:

2021.....3.46

2022.....3.15

2023......3.62

2024.......3.25

2025......3.52

The guy is money.

 

[Bob_Gratton]

Great move from Atkins👍 So next steps, trade Berrios for a good reliever and prospects , then sign Tatsuya Imai.  About Bichette, need to be careful and be 100% sure he's healthy. Tucker seem to be a safer gambling.  Marte? Will cost too much. Arizona will want Barger or Clement + prospects like King, Parker.

[thatoneguy]

So still not even close to the Dodgers' deferral ******** on this one.

[Bob_Gratton]

6 minutes ago, thatoneguy said:

One thing going under the radar here for Cease is that he going from below average framing (SD) to one of the best in all of MLB in Kirk. Obviously the ABS system will devalue it a bit, but you can’t challenge every call.

Don't forget Jays defensive is amongst the best in mlb, so this will help him a lot

[thatoneguy]

1 minute ago, Omar said:

Yeah, agreed.  I see people saying he is up and down but if you look at his FIP by year it is remarkably consistent:

2021.....3.46

2022.....3.15

2023......3.62

2024.......3.25

2025......3.52

The guy is money.

Can you breakdown FIP by inning? Obviously you would expect an increase deeper into the ballgame, but a couple of Padres fans I've been talking to say it is disproportionately true with Cease.

[ComeTogether]

 

 

[Laika]

Just now, thatoneguy said:

Can you breakdown FIP by inning? Obviously you would expect an increase deeper into the ballgame, but a couple of Padres fans I've been talking to say it is disproportionately true with Cease.

They are overreacting to his ERA this year 

Fangraphs has FIP etc splits for second and third time through the order 

[Laika]

This honestly reminds me of Zack Wheeler to PHI. Who remembers when Zack Wheeler was kind of an enigma?

[max silver]

49 minutes ago, bronson44 said:

It`s just so cool that we are here. It was so frustrating for years with all the well we have only 18 million to spend this offseason to fit into our mid payroll parameters (remember passing the hat lol).

They were sitting on a goldmine and I was longing for them to at least get up to the first luxury tax threshold but they would not. It`s very satisfying that we finally put on our big boy pants. Don`t stop now.

I think the front office has been more than willing to splash this kind of cash going all the way back to the 2020 offseason, they've just had a bit of difficulty in convincing the cream of the crop/upper tier free agents to take their money most years.