Eat My Shatkins Verified Member Posted November 5, 2025 Posted November 5, 2025 5 minutes ago, Funky said: Considering he would’ve had a $4 million buyout, he would’ve only needed to make $12 million a year to match. Dirt cheap You would think at some point this winter they will announce an extension. Seems crazy to take this option when he clearly could have went to free agency and gotten at worst 2x$25million AAV or something like that. Funky 1
Terminator Old-Timey Member Posted November 5, 2025 Posted November 5, 2025 BA predicted 5 years/150 million lol Pendleton, Spanky__99 and JaysAllMighty 2 1
Jays24 Old-Timey Member Posted November 5, 2025 Posted November 5, 2025 He could have easily gotten a 1 + 1 at a much higher AAV with a player option type deal if he really wanted to bet on himself. Not to mention that Bieber will have a qualifying offer attached to him now so it would slightly hurt his value next offseason too. Great news for us!!! Lets keep stacking up the roster to take it next year. Gonna place my Jays future bets again now :) Spanky__99 1
glory Old-Timey Member Posted November 5, 2025 Posted November 5, 2025 Bieber could have opted out, taken the $4M, went back to the Jays and said "I'll take a one year deal with you", and still easily cleared $16M. He's doing the Jays a solid here, so I suspect an extension is either being talked about now or will be at some point. Gen.Disarray, Governator, Spanky__99 and 4 others 7
Eat My Shatkins Verified Member Posted November 5, 2025 Posted November 5, 2025 Man, what a tidy piece of business to get taken care of before the off-season has even gotten going. A potential top of the rotation arm for $16 million. Great start. Now go get Skubal. G-Snarls and Jays24 1 1
hanton Old-Timey Member Posted November 5, 2025 Posted November 5, 2025 A sign of things to come (bo?). Gausman Beiber Yesavage Berrios Bassitt? might need another stud starter
harvey16 Verified Member Posted November 5, 2025 Posted November 5, 2025 2 minutes ago, hanton said: A sign of things to come (bo?). Gausman Beiber Yesavage Berrios Bassitt? Can't see Bassitt being resigned unless he comes back in a reliever role. He's not worth $20M+ entering his age 37 season. He had a mediocre 2025 season. Let's face it, he's been declining in the last 2 years. Pinkfloid, BatFlip, Spanky__99 and 1 other 3 1
hanton Old-Timey Member Posted November 5, 2025 Posted November 5, 2025 1 minute ago, harvey16 said: Can't see Bassitt being resigned unless he comes back in a reliever role. He's not worth $20M+ entering his age 37 season. He had a mediocre 2025 season. Let's face it, he's been declining in the last 2 years. true, didn't take the time to think it through....it's why I edited my post and added we need to add a stud starter
hanton Old-Timey Member Posted November 5, 2025 Posted November 5, 2025 any rumors on what it would take to get Skubal? nimmala ++ we don't have much
harvey16 Verified Member Posted November 5, 2025 Posted November 5, 2025 4 minutes ago, hanton said: any rumors on what it would take to get Skubal? nimmala ++ we don't have much At this point I don't think we need to push hard or give up top end prospects for Skubal. Heard he's not the greatest clubhouse guy either. I'd be happy with someone like Cease that we don't need to trade for and give up prospects. Spanky__99, L54 and Pinkfloid 3
hanton Old-Timey Member Posted November 5, 2025 Posted November 5, 2025 The Dodgers of the North ? haha
ComeTogether Verified Member Posted November 5, 2025 Posted November 5, 2025 The ride was so good and close, he wants another shot with a full recovery from the surgery.
bronson44 Verified Member Posted November 5, 2025 Posted November 5, 2025 14 minutes ago, hanton said: any rumors on what it would take to get Skubal? nimmala ++ we don't have much It would probably start with Yesavage plus plus Spanky__99 and BatFlip 2
Eat My Shatkins Verified Member Posted November 5, 2025 Posted November 5, 2025 Obviously, Bieber knowing he'll be pitching in a contract year with the best defense in baseball behind him and a legit chance to win factored in huge here. jaysblue 1
hanton Old-Timey Member Posted November 5, 2025 Posted November 5, 2025 3 minutes ago, bronson44 said: It would probably start with Yesavage plus plus Skubal is a true ace but that would be a difficult move to make
Eat My Shatkins Verified Member Posted November 5, 2025 Posted November 5, 2025 The only way the Jays trade Yesavage is if they've had a good look from the inside under the hood and don't think his performance is sustainable. Kid has ice in his veins. An MLB regular season is going to be a walk in the park for him probably after having nothing but pressure filled starts to this point. Spanky__99, Pinkfloid and BatFlip 3
L54 Old-Timey Member Posted November 5, 2025 Posted November 5, 2025 2 minutes ago, SeranthonySantander said: Doesn't strike me as a workers comp fraud type of guy but I guess you never know. But it doesn't matter, even if he was hurt, he would be allowed to take that option. Right If he had his foot amputated he’d still take the option. He probably gets 20M for one year for sure as a FA so him taking the option is 100% a decision made by him saying there’s nowhere else he’d rather be. Pretty crazy tbh we finished last in the AL East last year Spanky__99 1
thatoneguy Old-Timey Member Posted November 5, 2025 Posted November 5, 2025 This is a great and unexpected start to the offseason. Jays should still dip their feet into looking for other starters (preferably front of rotation), but the search is definitely less urgent now with Bieber staying for a bargain. Can't underestimate the role of success and hunger to win in player's decisions. Spanky__99 1
Spanky__99 Old-Timey Member Posted November 5, 2025 Posted November 5, 2025 3 hours ago, G-Snarls said: Bieber for 16 and Greene off the books is great financially And 4M of that contract was a sunk cost on the buyout, they essentially got him for 12M, this blows my mind. BatFlip 1
Spanky__99 Old-Timey Member Posted November 5, 2025 Posted November 5, 2025 2 hours ago, glory said: Bieber could have opted out, taken the $4M, went back to the Jays and said "I'll take a one year deal with you", and still easily cleared $16M. He's doing the Jays a solid here, so I suspect an extension is either being talked about now or will be at some point. 💯
Spanky__99 Old-Timey Member Posted November 5, 2025 Posted November 5, 2025 3 hours ago, BTS said: Between this, Flaherty opting in, and the Cubs cutting Imanaga - signs of a soft FA market? I think so, with the no CBA deal yet, maybe it craters the market. Hmm...
Spanky__99 Old-Timey Member Posted November 5, 2025 Posted November 5, 2025 I'll leave this right here... 3. Shane Bieber, RHP Projected Contract: 5 years, $150M There’s an argument to be made that Bieber is the best available starting pitcher in this year’s class. He doesn’t possess the top-shelf stuff quality of Valdez and Cease, but his on-field performance has perhaps more upside than either. The key metric for Bieber is fastball velocity. During the 2022 and 2023 seasons, Bieber’s velocity dipped to 91.3 mph, and his strikeout rate plummeted. Coming back from surgery this season, Bieber proved that his velocity was almost all the way back to where it was when he started his career, averaging 92.6 mph. With a full, healthy offseason, he very likely could look like the pitcher he was in 2019-2021—a dominant strikeout artist and Cy Young Award winner. That’s the optimistic scenario in which Bieber fully recaptures his velocity and challenges for Cy Youngs. In the pessimistic scenario, in which Bieber’s velocity returns to 2022-2023 levels, you get a pitcher with 3.25 ERA, which is right in line with his career ERA of 3.24—better than either of the two pitchers listed before him. Bieber likely won’t get the biggest contract this offseason, but his combination of floor and ceiling is unmatched in this free agent class. BatFlip, Omar, Eat My Shatkins and 4 others 6 1
Joltin Joe Verified Member Posted November 5, 2025 Posted November 5, 2025 Great for Jays. Bieber is good starter for 16 million. He must be betting on himself. Robbie Ray did same. Won Cy Young the next year
Omar Old-Timey Member Posted November 5, 2025 Posted November 5, 2025 2 hours ago, Spanky__99 said: I think so, with the no CBA deal yet, maybe it craters the market. Hmm... This is what I don't understand. There is a distinct possibility of a work stoppage at the end of next year if they don't get something hammered out or if the words " salary cap" are brought up. What benefit is there for him to do this? Perhaps he has a handshake deal with the Jays for an extension in place? Perhaps the wife factor? Yeah the clubhouse and facilities are great, but damn. So now that we are loaded up with RH starters Atkins needs to pull the trigger on a lefty to round out the rotation. Ranger Saurez come on down! Please make it happen Ross. Spanky__99 and BatFlip 2
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted November 5, 2025 Posted November 5, 2025 At least we got something positive out of Will Smith's home run. Bieber feels like he owes us something. Atkins should take advantage of Shane's generosity and sign him for five years. Spanky__99 1
Spanky__99 Old-Timey Member Posted November 5, 2025 Posted November 5, 2025 20 minutes ago, Omar said: This is what I don't understand. There is a distinct possibility of a work stoppage at the end of next year if they don't get something hammered out or if the words " salary cap" are brought up. What benefit is there for him to do this? Perhaps he has a handshake deal with the Jays for an extension in place? Perhaps the wife factor? Yeah the clubhouse and facilities are great, but damn. So now that we are loaded up with RH starters Atkins needs to pull the trigger on a lefty to round out the rotation. Ranger Saurez come on down! Please make it happen Ross. I think I just pee'd a little, I'd love to get him, Mr. Consistency himself.
jaysblue Old-Timey Member Posted November 5, 2025 Posted November 5, 2025 2 hours ago, Joltin Joe said: Great for Jays. Bieber is good starter for 16 million. He must be betting on himself. Robbie Ray did same. Won Cy Young the next year Will bet a couple of bucks on Bieber for winning the AL Cy Young next season. Jays24 1
Hipfan Verified Member Posted November 5, 2025 Posted November 5, 2025 Shocked and elated at this news! A great start to the offseason and hopefully more great news follows.
Laika Community Moderator Posted November 5, 2025 Posted November 5, 2025 This is wild. As others have said, maybe evidence that there is traction on an extension
Perfect Game Verified Member Posted November 5, 2025 Posted November 5, 2025 Gotta say I'm surprised at such great news. I think it speaks to the culture of the organization as a whole. Bassit mentioned in the post game it was the best organization he's played in including the job the FO did making the wives gel together. It's taken awhile but it looks like the FO is committed to building something really special here. Spanky__99 and Governator 2
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