Blue Jays (Scherzer) vs Royals (Lorenzen): 9/19/25, 7:40pm

[goldbug103]

23 minutes ago, Stangstag said:

Well, i think we can officially stick a fork in the Max Scherzer deal. 

Ends up looking like a pretty bad signing. I suppose you could point to intangibles like coaching the younger guys, but that’s not worth 15million lol.

Max deal is one year. I’m more worried about the multi year 500 million invested on a 1st baseman that can’t get the ball out of the infield. 

[hanton]

That low strike is what messed up Scherzer

[McGriff19]

I switched to putting all rooting energy tonight into the O's

[hanton]

I'm getting sick of seeing the numbers of our outfielders

[Waylanderz]

1 minute ago, McGriff19 said:

I switched to putting all rooting energy tonight into the O's

2-0 Orioles and threatening for more!

[Pinkfloid]

This bodes very poorly for Saturday and Sunday.  7+ innings needed from the pen today, ouch. 

[Omar]

Well if we can't win, at least they can lose, right?

[Stangstag]

Bet Rogers is kicking themselves for getting the rights for this game lol

[neverbeenhere]

8 minutes ago, goldbug103 said:

Max deal is one year. I’m more worried about the multi year 500 million invested on a 1st baseman that can’t get the ball out of the infield. 

that contract has not been rewarding to the team and will tie up the hands of the management for years to come

[glory]

33 minutes ago, Stangstag said:

Well, i think we can officially stick a fork in the Max Scherzer deal. 

Ends up looking like a pretty bad signing. I suppose you could point to intangibles like coaching the younger guys, but that’s not worth 15million lol.

$15.5M for 80 innings of barely above replacement level performance. Verlander would have been the better geezer to sign. 

Between Max and negative WAR Hoffman + Santander, plus 70 wRC+ Gimenez, it's actually amazing that the team is where they are when almost all of their off season moves flopped. Without looking it up, I'm guessing Straw has a higher WAR than Tony, Max, Gimenez, Garcia, and Sandlin combined. 

[neverbeenhere]

Groundballer Jr. 

[dancingmachine]

Make it stop 

[max silver]

40 minutes ago, Masterbather said:

It's crazy because we've all seen the home runs we've all seen the deep fly balls game after game and people were just like nah it's good. 

People were trying way too hard to convince themselves that Max is something that he's not anymore.

I mean he's not THIS bad. It's just an especially bad inning but he's average at this point.

I'm calling shenanigans to this narrative that literally anyone on this board said home runs weren't a concern for Scherzer. Find even a single post stating something close to this.

[Rynodb1]

Tuned in late and holy s***. What happened?

[G-Snarls]

8 hours ago, G-Snarls said:

I want Scherzer showing the team he clearly deserves game 3 or 4 of the ALDS 

So this didn't happen I gather?

[dancingmachine]

Just now, Rynodb1 said:

Tuned in late and holy s***. What happened?

Disaster Max couldn't get anyone out

[G-Snarls]

Thank God for Trey Yesavage 

[keggy]

An expanded roster with 7 starters and we still figure out a way to completely annihilate our bullpen

[dancingmachine]

Mall Santa will find away to use our high leverage relievers in this game

[Spanky__99]

5 minutes ago, glory said:

$15.5M for 80 innings of barely above replacement level performance. Verlander would have been the better geezer to sign. 

Between Max and negative WAR Hoffman + Santander, plus 70 wRC+ Gimenez, it's actually amazing that the team is where they are when almost all of their off season moves flopped. Without looking it up, I'm guessing Straw has a higher WAR than Tony, Max, Gimenez, Garcia, and Sandlin combined. 

And the team too was also aware of players hitting to projections would be fine, what's your point? They're 1st in the AL???

[Stangstag]

Jazz makes it a 3-2 game for the Os

[Doubleplay21]

What pitchers could Atkins have signed for $15 million instead of 

Scherzer

[Spanky__99]

24 minutes ago, goldbug103 said:

Max deal is one year. I’m more worried about the multi year 500 million invested on a 1st baseman that can’t get the ball out of the infield. 

7th best wRC+ in the MLB, not bad. 

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&season=2025&month=0&season1=2025&ind=0&sortcol=17&sortdir=default&pagenum=1

[Stangstag]

13 minutes ago, max silver said:

I'm calling shenanigans to this narrative that literally anyone on this board said home runs weren't a concern for Scherzer. Find even a single post stating something close to this.

Pretty sure most of us said the opposite, that he looked good aside from the homeruns.

[Spanky__99]

1 minute ago, Stangstag said:

Pretty sure most of us said the opposite, that he looked good aside from the homeruns.

Yes, accurate. Yet who scolded MB's poor heart?

[Nexii]

1 minute ago, Stangstag said:

Pretty sure most of us said the opposite, that he looked good aside from the homeruns.

Same deal with Hoffman. I don't think either should make the post season roster. We need to take the best into the post season. I'm worried we may not

Again its gotta be Gausman, Bieber, Yesavage, Bassitt

[glory]

O’s now up 4-2. Still batting bot 7. 

[ComeTogether]

3 minutes ago, glory said:

O’s now up 4-2. Still batting bot 7. 

Only positive of the day if the birds win. 

[Stangstag]

5 minutes ago, Nexii said:

Same deal with Hoffman. I don't think either should make the post season roster. We need to take the best into the post season. I'm worried we may not

Again its gotta be Gausman, Bieber, Yesavage, Bassitt

Hoffman off the postseason roster is a wild request. He’s still probably one of our top 3 relievers 

[ComeTogether]

20 minutes ago, G-Snarls said:

Thank God for Trey Yesavage 

Only pitched a game.  Need a bigger sample size.  As for post season, not sure where he would fit in.