Gómez: Toronto Blue Jays Have Offers Out to Pete Alonso, Alex Bregman

[Stangstag]

2 hours ago, Vladdywagon said:

Are you claiming that Ross and Mark are as good or better than those teams front offices?

 

Because that's just ridiculous 

I don’t see our front office being worse than any of those teams besides the Dodgers.

[Terminator]

5 hours ago, Jays24 said:

Big part of me believes that Shi and BNS purposely put reports out there to help the Jays front office gain some leverage in negotiations.  All we heard was how desperate they were and ready to spend their way out of this mess.  They've been putting cold water on almost everything to the point I feel it must be deliberate.  Who knows lol. 

There's absolutely some truth to this but I don't think Shi and BNS are necessarily in on it.

When Boras is breastfeeding Heyman, Morosi and  other dipshit journos a bunch of false info that gets immediately tweeted out, the team will probably feed BNS and Shi a little bit of info to try and balance the scales.

[Stangstag]

3 hours ago, Terminator said:

This makes sense. With the Jays in on both, Boras isn’t going to let one of Bregman or Alonso sign with us until he’s got the deal ready for the other. So either way they should both sign pretty close together no matter where they end up.

Maaan Boras seems like a nightmare to deal with. I can totally believe this is true

[Terminator]

7 minutes ago, Stangstag said:

Maaan Boras seems like a nightmare to deal with. I can totally believe this is true

Yeah more nightmare than anything else but it's probably a double-edged sword to a degree. 

You likely have to be incredibly methodical in dealing with him. Any offer you give him he'll take and parade around the league for weeks on end trying to get someone to beat it lol.

On the flipside, if you have the biggest offer he probably advises his client to take it and they usually do unless someone's wife overrules him (Corbin Burnes).

[Jonn]

The solution seems to be the Jays signing both with a Vlad extension.

[Vancouverite]

Any minute now. Alonso and Bregman to the jays i can feel it

Than we can trade some of our depth / AAA for mofe pitching deprh

[jaysblue]

49 minutes ago, Vancouverite said:

Any minute now. Alonso and Bregman to the jays i can feel it

Than we can trade some of our depth / AAA for mofe pitching deprh

[Bone R]

Do Atkins/Boras not work Sundays? 

[Abomination]

27 minutes ago, Bone R said:

Do Atkins/Boras not work Sundays? 

With how long it takes Boras to get deals for this clients, I'm not sure he works on any day that ends in a 'Y'.

[M.E.]

At some point I wish the owners would collude to not work with Boras

[Orgfiller]

On 2/1/2025 at 7:27 PM, G-Snarls said:

More former Mets trying to get him to come ?

 

 

 

I love Chris Bassitt. I remember someone speculating earlier how he actually hates the FO/team and was probably asking for a trade behind the scenes. lol

[wilko]

On 2/1/2025 at 8:41 AM, Terminator said:

1. 3B- Bregman
2. 1B- Vlad
3. LF- Taters (S)
4. DH- Alonso
5. SS- Bo
6. RF- Springer
7. CF- Varsho (L)
8. C- Kirk
9. 2B- Gimenez (L)

Getting swept by the Dodgers in the WS will be easy to make

Pretty much. Unless Mad Max rolls back the clock 12 years. 

[mphenhef]

On 2/1/2025 at 9:36 AM, Matthew Lenz said:

We have more developments this morning related to the Toronto Blue Jays offseason. Yesterday, Bob Nightengale of USA Today said that the Jays are "still interested" in Pete Alonso. Now, Héctor Gómez is reporting that they have a three-year offer out to him and a six-year offer out to Alex Bregman.

The fit would be interesting if both players were to accept. Adding Alonso would push Vladimir Guerrero Jr over to the hot corner. Alex Bregman has stated that he is open to playing second base, but the Jays have newly acquired Andrés Giménez at the Keystone. As of now, Will Wagner is penciled in as the teams designed hitter, but he projects to be more of a bench bat than a full-time player. If Alonso and Bregman were to accept their respective deals, they could theoretically play a game of musical chairs at DH.

While it would be interesting to see how that works out, it's a no brainer to add both if the Jays can pull that off.

 

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Do you suppose there is a chance that one of them has accepted already and they are doing Boras a favour of holding off on announcing so it doesn’t take them out as a suited for his other client?

[Jays24]

52 minutes ago, mphenhef said:

Do you suppose there is a chance that one of them has accepted already and they are doing Boras a favour of holding off on announcing so it doesn’t take them out as a suited for his other client?

We can only hope but I doubt anyone would take the chance to not formally sign if they had the chance.  Literally anything can happen to cause an injury that would make the team pull an offer.  

[jaysblue]

15 hours ago, Orgfiller said:

I love Chris Bassitt. I remember someone speculating earlier how he actually hates the FO/team and was probably asking for a trade behind the scenes. lol

He went on that podcast last summer saying he was upset how this team never had a "pivot" to Ohtani last offseason and kind of hinted that himself and other veteran Blue Jays felt that way. 

Atkins didn't get Soto, Burnes, or Sasaki, but at least their pivot was Santander, Scherzer and Hoffman as free agents thus far, and they traded for Gimenez. I'm sure Bassitt and other players definitely feel better about this team heading into the 2025 season than they did a month ago or last March/April. This was a much better offseason than last!

[Jimcanuck]

11 hours ago, Jays24 said:

We can only hope but I doubt anyone would take the chance to not formally sign if they had the chance.  Literally anything can happen to cause an injury that would make the team pull an offer.  

Sign but hold off on announcing.  A signing can simply be an email "I accept"

[max silver]

5 hours ago, jaysblue said:

He went on that podcast last summer saying he was upset how this team never had a "pivot" to Ohtani last offseason and kind of hinted that himself and other veteran Blue Jays felt that way. 

Atkins didn't get Soto, Burnes, or Sasaki, but at least their pivot was Santander, Scherzer and Hoffman as free agents thus far, and they traded for Gimenez. I'm sure Bassitt and other players definitely feel better about this team heading into the 2025 season than they did a month ago or last March/April. This was a much better offseason than last!

This season featured a much better overall crop of hitters compared to the 2023/2024 offseason. Bassitt himself mentioned how there really wasn't a very effective pivot once you moved past Ohtani. The next best options were guys like Teoscar, Chapman, Bellinger and not much else. This crop was much deeper and after Soto and presented a lot more options for team building in free agency.

[Omar]

5 hours ago, jaysblue said:

He went on that podcast last summer saying he was upset how this team never had a "pivot" to Ohtani last offseason and kind of hinted that himself and other veteran Blue Jays felt that way. 

Bassett should just keep his mouth shut and pitch. Everytime the guy opens his mouth people act like he's Yoda talking. He's a mediocre journeyman pitcher who doesn't have a single great pitch so he relies on six different ones. He is lucky to be employed in the majors. 

[L54]

Seems a bit harsh 

[Laika]

Very harsh. Bassit is a solid league average kitchen sink arm. 

However, I do agree that people tend to overvalue his statements/opinions. Not sure why. The perception that he is smart because he is a crafty pitcher? 

Is he actually smart? I dunno. Maybe. 

[max silver]

13 minutes ago, Omar said:

Bassett should just keep his mouth shut and pitch. Everytime the guy opens his mouth people act like he's Yoda talking. He's a mediocre journeyman pitcher who doesn't have a single great pitch so he relies on six different ones. He is lucky to be employed in the majors. 

That's a pretty rough assessment. Bassitt was a late bloomer who carved out a nice career as a number 3 pitcher in his 30's. I have plenty of respect for guys like Bassitt who carve out successful careers based on effectively mixing their pitches and using a more cerebral approach vs simply overpowering hitters with top end stuff. I think he got himself in a bit of hot water by being too forthcoming on a podcast but that's a pretty small complaint.

[Gen.Disarray]

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/bregging-the-question/

Pretty neat. Does this affect anyone's opinion about whether we should be balls deep on acquiring Bregman? 

How do y'all feel about their assessment of our playoff odds?

[Laika]

1 minute ago, Gen.Disarray said:

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/bregging-the-question/

Pretty neat. Does this affect anyone's opinion about whether we should be balls deep on acquiring Bregman? 

How do y'all feel about their assessment of our playoff odds?

Yes it does a bit. I thought the Jays would be a bit higher.

But, as an Ernie Clement superfan, this makes sense to me. The Jays do not have a black hole at 3B.  

[Jays24]

[Stangstag]

3 minutes ago, Jays24 said:

 

Plz can we just have a good thing here.

Adding a pretty bankable 70+ homers to the lineup this offseason would be amazing for the team.

[Laika]

muh sources!!!

so sick of these muh sources dorks

[G-Snarls]

48 minutes ago, Laika said:

Yes it does a bit. I thought the Jays would be a bit higher.

But, as an Ernie Clement superfan, this makes sense to me. The Jays do not have a black hole at 3B.  

That's right

We DID have a black hole in LF/DH but now we don't

I'm fine with Clement at 3B if we get Alonso 

[Jays24]

12 minutes ago, Laika said:

muh sources!!!

so sick of these muh sources dorks

So am I... just want us to get 1 more big bat and then screw all the rumors... i will only care about the start of spring training then.  

[Brownie19]

We can start the year without another big bat.  It's not ideal (as it limits out options to trades only), but it's also not the end of the world IMO.

[Jays24]

18 minutes ago, Brownie19 said:

We can start the year without another big bat.  It's not ideal (as it limits out options to trades only), but it's also not the end of the world IMO.

For me, the ceiling of the team being a World Series contender is dependent upon adding another massive bat.  We can still be a contender for a low wild card spot but the excitement level would be different for that.  Especially since we're heavily rumored on Alonso and I've already gotten my heart set on seeing him or Bregman here lol