GDT: 3/3 TB Rays @ Toronto Blue Jays (1:37 et)

[Spanky99]

LETS GO BLUE JAYS *CLAP, CLAP* *CLAP, CLAP, CLAP*

 

LETS GO BLUE JAYS *CLAP, CLAP* *CLAP, CLAP, CLAP*

 

LETS GO BLUE JAYS *CLAP, CLAP* *CLAP, CLAP, CLAP*

 

[Omar]

Get Romano up. We're into save territory. Thanks mr. Pop.

[Jays24]

Of course this game turns into a butt clencher... this team doesn't know any better lol

[Jaysareus]

Lol had to waste their closer in this game

[Terminator]

We need Chad Green back bad.

[Omar]

My gdt win percentage keeps climbing. I should be on the Jays payroll.

 

[Spanky99]

We need Chad Green back bad.

 

Soon, bro.

[o2cui2i]

Congratulations to Manoah on the win and to Chris Farley for his first home run as a jay

[Terminator]

Manoah with another gem is a huge development. We will need to stack up some wins to make up ground and it would be hard to do with a gaping hole in the #5 spot. If he's actually back we might be able to put together some big streaks to get back in it.

[Omar]

Congratulations to Manoah on the win and to Chris Farley for his first home run as a jay

 

Great game considering the guy lives in van down by the river.

[Spanky99]

Great interview by DV.

[o2cui2i]

Classy talk from Vogelbach. He just took the bath he knew he had coming, and spoke very humbly

[Terminator]

Soon, bro.

 

Francis and Yariel too. Bullpen should get a much needed reshuffle soon.

[Omar]

Should have won this series. Yesterday was a gut punch. Maybe we make some hay while the sun shines the next few series. Let see what happens.

[G-Snarls]

Should have won this series. Yesterday was a gut punch. Maybe we make some hay while the sun shines the next few series. Let see what happens.

 

Getting back to 500 would be nice

[BigCecil]

Very glad the FO didn’t do something silly and trade Manoah off for nothing. Good to see him shove.

[Stangstag]

Getting back to 500 would be nice

 

We’ve seen plenty of teams be .500 at the deadline and go on a tear to make a deep postseason run.

 

That could definitely still happen for the Jays, but it’s very difficult to imagine that happening based off the way these guys have looked in 2023/24

[Brownie19]

Very glad the FO didn’t do something silly and trade Manoah off for nothing. Good to see him shove.

 

Good point. They seemingly took a lot of s*** from fans on the relationship with Manoah and how they handled everything, but maybe they did good?

[Spanky99]

We’ve seen plenty of teams be .500 at the deadline and go on a tear to make a deep postseason run.

 

That could definitely still happen for the Jays, but it’s very difficult to imagine that happening based off the way these guys have looked in 2023/24

 

I've watched people say we were done since '20, say this Eeyore s*** during a season, and we made the post season 3 of 4 and missed by a game when our club looked the strongest in the other, I can't get behind all this s*** talk as we're a 1/3 into the season. It doesn't look good, but s*** can change in a hurry.

Edited May 20, 2024 by Spanky99

[Omar]

Very glad the FO didn’t do something silly and trade Manoah off for nothing. Good to see him shove.

 

There's a lesson in there somewhere.

[Sorrow]

Im hoping we see more Danny Burgers against righties and keep Turner for LHP and pinch hitting until the bat comes around if it does.

[Stangstag]

Im hoping we see more Danny Burgers against righties and keep Turner for LHP and pinch hitting until the bat comes around if it does.

 

Would rather do that than guarantee Turner daily at bats. But Really Jansen should be DH over both right now.

[G-Snarls]

Good point. They seemingly took a lot of s*** from fans on the relationship with Manoah and how they handled everything, but maybe they did good?

 

We don't know what went on behind the scenes really

[Brownie19]

Just checking again - was Manoah's stuff+ the same this game as it's been all year? Is it just the command that's been better?

[Laika]

Just checking again - was Manoah's stuff+ the same this game as it's been all year? Is it just the command that's been better?

 

Yeah still bad

 

Location+ was very good though

[max silver]

Yeah still bad

 

Location+ was very good though

 

That lines up with the starts where Alek was effective last season as his stuff+ numbers were terrible even in the good starts.

[Brownie19]

Yeah still bad

 

Location+ was very good though

 

Blah - so he isn't back or fixed. He's probably just getting lucky right now. The stuff "looks" better, but hard to compare since it's been so long since we've seen his A+ slider.

 

Thanks - where do you find that info? I'll bookmark it.

[Terminator]

Blah - so he isn't back or fixed. He's probably just getting lucky right now. The stuff "looks" better, but hard to compare since it's been so long since we've seen his A+ slider.

 

Thanks - where do you find that info? I'll bookmark it.

 

It’s not all doom and gloom. His slider graded a lot better and he’s mixing in a 4th pitch in the changeup which gives him a fighting chance against lefties. If he’s releasing each pitch from the same spot and locating a kitchen sink that could play, even if the stuff isn’t great.

 

Does anyone know how his stuff now compares to his stuff in 2022?

[Laika]

Blah - so he isn't back or fixed. He's probably just getting lucky right now. The stuff "looks" better, but hard to compare since it's been so long since we've seen his A+ slider.

 

Thanks - where do you find that info? I'll bookmark it.

 

You have to go to the pitcher leaderboard on fangraphs then toggle to Blue Jays and pitch modeling and stuff+

 

One possibility is that his changeup is actually good and stuff+ misses it. It has issues with change ups

 

Visually the slider has more depth now

[Omar]

Yeah, so watching the game I get the opposite of what the numbers are saying.

 

His slider looked the best I've seen from him, maybe ever. His use of the changeup was great, using it in counts where he would avoid it. Stuff looked good.

 

His location was hit and miss. He only had one walk but got favourable calls and hit a couple of batters. I'm skeptical on the data if it says his stuff wasn't good and his location was. Something is wrong here.