Around Baseball 2024

[Laika]

Adam Jones

[wilko]

Adam Jones

 

The dude from Tool?

[Olerud363]

Honestly, they should be investigated for this. Has there been a more pale team in the last few decades? And who are widely rumoured to be finished with the team this offseason? Anthony Santander and Cedric Mullins. Of course. I'm not casting aspersions on Mike Elias, but the Orioles should probably be barred from making any transactions until we figure what the hell is going on.

 

They have Enrique Bradfiled Jr. who will be the greatest leadoff man ever, and Samuel Basallo, who will be the hitter Vladimir Guerrero Jr. is in the good times, but all the time.

 

So won't be too white next year.

[G-Snarls]

The dude from Tool?

 

lol

[connorp]

Chourio is the new Julio...could be the new face of the MLB. Hopefully he doesn't struggle like Julio has recently.

 

I try not to troll and then you just insist of lobbing softballs my way. I used the term “nerd” in a good way, as I wouldn’t be around nerds for 20 years here if I didn’t respect them. However, this is the typical nerd take. .270 and .750 OPS isn’t making you the face of anything. WAR Schmore. Otherwise Dalton Varsho would be a name everyone knows.

[Spanky99]

What does that mean? lol... ^^^^

[BTS]

I try not to troll and then you just insist of lobbing softballs my way. I used the term “nerd” in a good way, as I wouldn’t be around nerds for 20 years here if I didn’t respect them. However, this is the typical nerd take. .270 and .750 OPS isn’t making you the face of anything. WAR Schmore. Otherwise Dalton Varsho would be a name everyone knows.

 

I think he's assuming Chourio isn't a finished product at 20. Since June 1st, Chourio slashing 310/358/516 with 11 HR and 12 SB in 280 PA. Basically what Julio Rodriguez did at 21 and 22.

[Brownie19]

I think he's assuming Chourio isn't a finished product at 20. Since June 1st, Chourio slashing 310/358/516 with 11 HR and 12 SB in 280 PA. Basically what Julio Rodriguez did at 21 and 22.

 

This. I guess only nerds can figure that out.

[Spanky99]

I think he's assuming Chourio isn't a finished product at 20. Since June 1st, Chourio slashing 310/358/516 with 11 HR and 12 SB in 280 PA. Basically what Julio Rodriguez did at 21 and 22.

Connor's quotes are all in reference to fantasy baseball, 100, lol.

[connorp]

I think he's assuming Chourio isn't a finished product at 20. Since June 1st, Chourio slashing 310/358/516 with 11 HR and 12 SB in 280 PA. Basically what Julio Rodriguez did at 21 and 22.

 

The Bluejays being terrible and taking over a rebuilding fantasy team has limited by trending knowledge and I’m just seeing the numbers I see. Jordan Walker looked pretty solid too. Think he was 20. Long ways before he’s face of anything. More under the radar now than anything else. Doesn’t have the sexy Elly, Acura, Tatis, Trout tools that gets hype and headlines

 

Don’t forget Carroll too actually. Just not on that excitement level. The WAR has you guys creaming your pants.

[The Cats Ass]

I try not to troll and then you just insist of lobbing softballs my way. I used the term “nerd” in a good way, as I wouldn’t be around nerds for 20 years here if I didn’t respect them. However, this is the typical nerd take. .270 and .750 OPS isn’t making you the face of anything. WAR Schmore. Otherwise Dalton Varsho would be a name everyone knows.

 

Do you prefer the old people stats? It's looking like he has a good chance to put up only the 3rd ever 20/20 season for a player 20 years or younger.

[connorp]

Connor's quotes are all in reference to fantasy baseball, 100, lol.

 

I won’t deny it. Let’s say 90-95% though

[BTS]

The Bluejays being terrible and taking over a rebuilding fantasy team has limited by trending knowledge and I’m just seeing the numbers I see. Jordan Walker looked pretty solid too. Think he was 20. Long ways before he’s face of anything. More under the radar now than anything else. Doesn’t have the sexy Elly, Acura, Tatis, Trout tools that gets hype and headlines

 

Well, Jordan Walker spent his entire age-20 season in AA. Chourio has now been an elite MLB player for almost 300 PA in his age-20 season. Sure he might not keep it up. But Brownie's comment about him being potentially one of the biggest stars in the league wasn't out of touch - he just has to keep playing the way he's played the last 3 months.

[connorp]

Really I’m just waiting for Laila to chime in with his stupid take that he thinks owns me. I thrive on the rivalry and conflict.

[connorp]

Well, Jordan Walker spent his entire age-20 season in AA. Chourio has now been an elite MLB player for almost 300 PA in his age-20 season. Sure he might not keep it up. But Brownie's comment about him being potentially one of the biggest stars in the league wasn't out of touch - he just has to keep playing the way he's played the last 3 months.

 

I’m simply stating to you the fact that mlb is going to market the guys that are offensive first. The 6 WAR guy minus 1.5 defense =4.5, is going to be the star and not the 3+3 guy. Sometimes you get the best of both worlds of course.

[Stangstag]

I won’t deny it. Let’s say 90-95% though

 

Its so moronic though. In fantasy defense literally doesn’t exist outside positional eligibility.

 

Defense is almost half of the game, you can’t just handwave away 3-4 wins a player can add via defense.

 

Well you can… but you’d be a moron.

[connorp]

Its so moronic though. In fantasy defense literally doesn’t exist outside positional eligibility.

 

Defense is almost half of the game, you can’t just handwave away 3-4 wins a player can add via defense.

 

Well you can… but you’d be a moron.

 

Or a casual fan. Which I am. In which most are. So what? Tell me to get off your lawn and move on

[G-Snarls]

Johnny Cueto DFA after two s***** starts

 

Retirement time?

Edited August 30, 2024 by G-Snarls

[connorp]

Or a casual fan. Which I am. In which most are. So what? Tell me to get off your lawn and move on

 

If you throw chicks in the mix, NFL is probably like 75% casuals and their fantasy team, or local team where they can 2 or 3 players.

[Jonn]

Johnny Cueto DFA after two s***** starts

 

Retirement time?

 

100 percent. He’s been done for awhile. Great run for awhile though.

[metafour]

- You are very right about Nimmala and Bonnilla. We can basically forget about Bonilla at this point and Nimmala's K rate makes his chances of making it or being great rather puny.

 

This is wrong.

 

There are multiple current MLB stars who had similar K-rates to Nimmala at similar ages in the low minors. One of them is Baltimore's own Gunnar Henderson who had a 29.3% K-rate at an older age 20 in A-ball (157 PA) and then followed that with a 30.1% K-rate in High-A (289 PA) at age 20.

 

Nimmala's K-rate is also improving. He is at at a 27% K-rate for the month of August.

 

Even if he forever remains a high-strikeout hitter, his power is elite and will play regardless. He is literally hitting for more power than Vlad at the same age.

[BTS]

Jose Ramirez has a shot at 40/40 (33HR and 34SB) and it feels like nobody is talking about him

[connorp]

Jose Ramirez has a shot at 40/40 (33HR and 34SB) and it feels like nobody is talking about him

 

Everyone is just too excited about what Jackson Chuorio is doing at Age 20 to appreciate it!

 

And before that ban finger gets itchy, I’m going to pledge my next 15 posts will be non trolls

[Olerud363]

This is wrong.

 

There are multiple current MLB stars who had similar K-rates to Nimmala at similar ages in the low minors. One of them is Baltimore's own Gunnar Henderson who had a 29.3% K-rate at an older age 20 in A-ball (157 PA) and then followed that with a 30.1% K-rate in High-A (289 PA) at age 20.

 

Nimmala's K-rate is also improving. He is at at a 27% K-rate for the month of August.

 

Even if he forever remains a high-strikeout hitter, his power is elite and will play regardless. He is literally hitting for more power than Vlad at the same age.

 

Sort of. Vlad was probably hitting 121 mph grounders at minor league infields... so Nimmala I doubt has better exit velocity but does have much higher launch angle, and maybe too high leading to the low average.

 

Minor league infields suck at hard grounders but can catch popups, so the low batting average at low A could be a sign of popup+strikout problems.

 

There will always be exceptions. And I conceded I might be wrong about this just the other day. That is one guy though. What is the trend? Just seems these kind of guys really struggle at high levels.

 

Orelvis Martinez and Griffin Conine are both taking forever to get through the minors... I realize Conine is older and Orelvis had women's health issues, but what I mean is like maybe it takes Nimilla 5 years to get to Toronto... compared to Bo and Vlad who made the trip from Lansing to Toronto in 2 years.

[connorp]

I didn’t realize G.Conine still existed. I remember drafting him for his 70 power but gave up on him a couple years in

[Olerud363]

I didnÂ’t realize G.Conine still existed. I remember drafting him for his 70 power but gave up on him a couple years in

 

Conine just got called up which is why I was reminded of him.

 

Joey Gallo I guess is a success story for this kind of thing, had a nice 4 year run hitting like .200 with huge power, walks and good defense.

 

When the league got a bit harder after 2021 though Gallo wasn't able to function anymore.

 

Really sucks about the Orelvis thing... would have loved to see how his bat played in the majors, compared to the 26 year olds from Buffalo with (presumably) less raw bat speed

[Laika]

This is wrong.

 

There are multiple current MLB stars who had similar K-rates to Nimmala at similar ages in the low minors. One of them is Baltimore's own Gunnar Henderson who had a 29.3% K-rate at an older age 20 in A-ball (157 PA) and then followed that with a 30.1% K-rate in High-A (289 PA) at age 20.

 

Nimmala's K-rate is also improving. He is at at a 27% K-rate for the month of August.

 

Even if he forever remains a high-strikeout hitter, his power is elite and will play regardless. He is literally hitting for more power than Vlad at the same age.

 

You are thinking about it the wrong way

 

You can't go looking for the exceptional comps. You need to just look at all kids at that level of the minors who have struck out 30% of the time.

 

And even if you want to look at the exceptional comps, those guys would have had great batter ball profiles and Nimmala's is probably horrible.

[Olerud363]

You are thinking about it the wrong way

 

You can't go looking for the exceptional comps. You need to just look at all kids at that level of the minors who have struck out 30% of the time.

 

And even if you want to look at the exceptional comps, those guys would have had great batter ball profiles and Nimmala's is probably horrible.

 

Nimmala's ground ball to fly ball is 0.59

 

Gunnar Henderson's was 0.93 during his high strike-out season

 

Vlad's was 1.21 when he was 18 and hit "only" 13 homers.

 

Maybe Nimmala could have some 5 WAR Joey Gallo like years but his walk rate isn't as good as Gallo's. He might end up being something like Varsho, maybe with more power, but will need good defense to go with it. Or maybe at 19 he get's some good hitting tips in Vancouver and destroys 3 league's and is knocking on the door this time next year.

[Laika]

Nimmala's ground ball to fly ball is 0.59

 

Gunnar Henderson's was 0.93 during his high strike-out season

 

Vlad's was 1.21 when he was 18 and hit "only" 13 homers.

 

Maybe Nimmala could have some 5 WAR Joey Gallo like years but his walk rate isn't as good as Gallo's. He might end up being something like Varsho, maybe with more power, but will need good defense to go with it. Or maybe at 19 he get's some good hitting tips in Vancouver and destroys 3 league's and is knocking on the door this time next year.

 

He IS also, obviously, a highly variable prospect at this point so he could also just show up next year with a 26% k rate and a better batted ball profiles at the next minor league level

 

It's possible. Not likely but it's possible.

 

Could also be the kind of guy to like, suck in AA then repeat the level and be very good. At some point

[hanton]

The Rays strike again, they lost Fairbanks a few days ago and now Poche goes down; they call up sulser and biggie, biggie hitting 99