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[max silver]

Lmao WAT

 

To me it read like the woman was effectively pimping out her daughter. It's entirely possible that's not the correct conclusion. In retrospect it's not "worse" than what Franco was doing but this woman completely neglected her duty to protect her own child and instead chose to profit by becoming complicit and covering up the activities of a pedophile for money. At the same time by not going to the authorities she allowed Franco to continue victimizing other young girls as well. As a father to a young daughter I'm just as disgusted by the mother's actions if not even more so.

[Jimcanuck]

To me it read like the woman was effectively pimping out her daughter. It's entirely possible that's not the correct conclusion. In retrospect it's not "worse" than what Franco was doing but this woman completely neglected her duty to protect her own child and instead chose to profit by becoming complicit and covering up the activities of a pedophile for money. At the same time by not going to the authorities she allowed Franco to continue victimizing other young girls as well. As a father to a young daughter I'm just as disgusted by the mother's actions if not even more so.

 

DR laws may well treat the mother's actions as worse.

[L54]

DR laws may well treat the mother's actions as worse.

 

Stfu you actually have no idea

[L54]

I'm not clear on whether she's being accused of pimping her daughter out, or for extorting Franco upon finding out after the fact. One is definitely far worse than the other, but neither is ok. Extorting a pedo for financial gain, still gives him the chance to prey on other kids.

 

Obviously neither of them are ok lol

[Jimcanuck]

Stfu you actually have no idea

 

And that's what my post says

[Laika]

Jim would honestly be the WORST possible lawyer for stuff like this.

[Jimcanuck]

Jim would honestly be the WORST possible lawyer for stuff like this.

 

And what do you know about DR's criminal justice system

[Laika]

And what do you know about DR's criminal justice system

 

Enough to literally not f***ing comment on it hahahaha

 

You just can't keep your mouth shut about this stuff

 

Any type of opinion is an opinion. Even "wait and see" is for situations like this a political and legal position with implications. That's why you would suck as legal counsel on this stuff.

[Jimcanuck]

Enough to literally not f***ing comment on it hahahaha

 

You just can't keep your mouth shut about this stuff

 

Any type of opinion is an opinion. Even "wait and see" is for situations like this a political and legal position with implications. That's why you would suck as legal counsel on this stuff.

 

So we are the same, both of us would suck. We are just both making comments on an anonymous inconsequential message board.

[John_Havok]

So I guess Franco is on Epstein’s list? Maybe the mom too

[L54]

So we are the same, both of us would suck. We are just both making comments on an anonymous inconsequential message board.

 

Laika would suck far less than you though

[L54]

So I guess Franco is on Epstein’s list? Maybe the mom too

 

Weird that this all is happening congruently

[Jimcanuck]

Weird that this all is happening congruently

 

Shitload of untruths, altered images, and other fakes out there about Epstein. USA Today laid it all out yesterday. Gonna be defamation lawsuits galore.

[L54]

You’re actually the last person on this site I trust when it comes to the legality of anything at this point

[L54]

Anyway John was making a joke and I responded but I will not be making any other posts regarding JE

[JaysAllMighty]

Shitload of untruths, altered images, and other fakes out there about Epstein. USA Today laid it all out yesterday. Gonna be defamation lawsuits galore.

 

Who the f*** defends a pedophile... GTFO

[Laika]

Bader to the Mets for $10M

 

basically the KK deal

 

good r/r for the Mets but man he has sucked the last 2 seasons

[G-Snarls]

The Braves and left-hander Chris Sale have agreed to a new deal, which will pay him $38MM over the next two years.

 

He will earn $16MM in 2024 and $22MM in 2025 and there’s also an $18MM club option for 2026.

 

Sale was already under contract via an extension he previously signed with the Red Sox but this will overwrite that.

[Stangstag]

You’re actually the last person on this site I trust when it comes to the legality of anything at this point

 

Lawll

[John_Havok]

Anyway John was making a joke and I responded but I will not be making any other posts regarding JE

 

I meant Theo Epstein.

[L54]

I meant Theo Epstein.

 

Good target for Toronto

[John_Havok]

Bader signed by the Mets, basically a Kiermaier deal. 1/10m, though some are reporting 1/10.5

[Dick_Pole]

Gonna be an unpopular opinion, but I'm just not that angry about the Wander Franco situation. At least not yet. It's more about society's inconsistent pearl clutching and scapegoating than anything.

 

Karl Malone impregnated a 12 year old and then abandoned her when he was 20. That to me is far worse than anything Franco has done (based on the facts we know so far) and yet he has faced no repercussions. And up until 5 years ago very few people cared and even now only a minority of people care. These rockstars like Led Zeppelin, Aerosmith and Red Hot Chili Peppers could fill out an entire cheerleading squad of their teenage harem AND they brag about it, some of them to this day. The President of France banged and then later on married his teacher while he was in high school and people shrug like its no big deal. She was 40, he was 15.

 

The vast majority of you were a 21 year old man at some point in time. And at some point in time you might have met a girl at a party or at school who you thought was over 18 but ended up being 14-17. You might have stopped pursuing her at that time, but you were initially attracted to her. Does that also make you a pedo? You're no different than someone who is sexually attracted to 8 year olds or collects child porn?

 

We don't know if Franco was intentionally seeking out these girls like some Epstein s*** or Jared the Subway guy or the hockey coaches. Or just some dumbass hot shot who collected an entire harem of groupies and three of them happened to be underage and he was too stupid or careless before it was too late. If it's the former, sure call him predator or pedo or chomo. But if it's the latter, it's not on the same level of perversion. My guess is that he's just an idiot. Not some dude who would have turned into the next Ian Watkins if left unchecked.

[Eat My Shatkins]

Whether he's an idiot of a predator doesn't matter much, he's still (allegedly) a guy who has sex with children.

 

If you're going to have sex with another human being you need to do your due diligence to find out whether or not they are the appropriate age.

[connorp]

Gonna be an unpopular opinion, but I'm just not that angry about the Wander Franco situation. At least not yet. It's more about society's inconsistent pearl clutching and scapegoating than anything.

 

Karl Malone impregnated a 12 year old and then abandoned her when he was 20. That to me is far worse than anything Franco has done (based on the facts we know so far) and yet he has faced no repercussions. And up until 5 years ago very few people cared and even now only a minority of people care. These rockstars like Led Zeppelin, Aerosmith and Red Hot Chili Peppers could fill out an entire cheerleading squad of their teenage harem AND they brag about it, some of them to this day. The President of France banged and then later on married his teacher while he was in high school and people shrug like its no big deal. She was 40, he was 15.

 

The vast majority of you were a 21 year old man at some point in time. And at some point in time you might have met a girl at a party or at school who you thought was over 18 but ended up being 14-17. You might have stopped pursuing her at that time, but you were initially attracted to her. Does that also make you a pedo? You're no different than someone who is sexually attracted to 8 year olds or collects child porn?

 

We don't know if Franco was intentionally seeking out these girls like some Epstein s*** or Jared the Subway guy or the hockey coaches. Or just some dumbass hot shot who collected an entire harem of groupies and three of them happened to be underage and he was too stupid or careless before it was too late. If it's the former, sure call him predator or pedo or chomo. But if it's the latter, it's not on the same level of perversion. My guess is that he's just an idiot. Not some dude who would have turned into the next Ian Watkins if left unchecked.

 

Yeah everyone needs to get off their high horse. This seems to be like a Franco 19yo hooking up with underage girls who are out at wild parties. Any male here with at least normal T levels when they were in school could’ve fallen into same thing. Maybe they don’t carry it on past the initial thing, or once they find out how old she is. But this man is not a pedophile. Pedophiles in my opinion should get nothing less than the Old Yeller treatment. This is not that though

[connorp]

It should lead to him never playing baseball again. He’d be out a season at MOST in the other sports leagues. Likely part of one. Watkins way worse

[L54]

Would your guys view change if this was an ongoing relationship with a 14 year old girl?

[L54]

Because my daughter is not dating a freshman in college in eighth grade

[connorp]

Because my daughter is not dating a freshman in college in eighth grade

 

This is where I think it would make good classroom discussion, comparing the different sports in this regard. Wander is playing baseball, which is more predominantly white than the other sports. And of course as us white men that raise good kids, we can’t image our 14yo being in that scenario, so it drives the rage.

 

In black and Hispanic culture, a 14yo girl out partying drinking a bottle of vodka behind the wheel of a car doesn’t seem out of place. There’s going to be more understanding of being in those situations.

[L54]

But I’m not talking about a one off Connor, would a full fledged relationship change your view on the situation?