Ohtani Thread - Special Sheriff's Edition (Update: confirmed going to the Dodgers)

[wilko]

Have a nice day

 

Welcome back!

[jaysblue]

All in on Bregman next year if we don't find a long term 3B solution before then?

 

Tough call.

 

Next class of FA's, other than Soto, Bregman is likely a close second on a guy to go "all in" on, though he's going to be 31 in 2025 and his offensive numbers have kind of regressed the last couple of seasons. Not sure if he can offer another 8 WAR season like he did in 2018 and 2019. Geez that would be so sweet!

 

If Bregman moving forward is just a 4-5 WAR guy (which isn't a bad thing at all haha), probably would rather re-sign Matt Chapman if you could on a 4 or 5 year deal around $80-100M. Chapman is still capable of putting up 4 WAR seasons. I could see Bregman demanding a 7-8 year deal most likely, north of $200M.

[L54]

Yeah I agree but nothing wrong with upping the offer and forcing the Dodgers to pay more

 

Ya I don’t see this argument at all. Tough to be critical that Rogers didn’t offer more than the largest contract of all time

[L54]

Bregman is sort of an enigma. You have to love the plate discipline but I don't love the lack of power which is somewhat concerning. I’d probably pass at 25M/year

[Terminator]

Ya I don’t see this argument at all. Tough to be critical that Rogers didn’t offer more than the largest contract of all time

 

Well I was trying to agree with your previous point (that beating the Dodgers' 10/460 offer might not have gotten Ohtani anyway) but now you are making a totally different point (that I shouldn't criticize Rogers for not offering more). And I agree with that too.

 

The whole contract is hard to discuss because the 700M dollar number is fugazi.

[L54]

I agree with that, there really isn’t a clean reference point to look at.

 

At the end of the day it was always going to be LAD

[Stangstag]

https://apnews.com/article/shohei-otani-dodgers-3fe44e39efc42674f75b5233cc01b149

 

Wtf is this. Contract stipulates that If Friedman is fired, Ohtani can opt-out.

[L54]

Friedman insurance

[Abomination]

https://apnews.com/article/shohei-otani-dodgers-3fe44e39efc42674f75b5233cc01b149

 

Wtf is this. Contract stipulates that If Friedman is fired, Ohtani can opt-out.

 

Ha ha ha. That's brilliant!

[Marew]

He won’t be opting out at any point. Once he’s a few years in no way he finds anything better from 33 or 34-40

[Jays24]

How does an opt out work for all the deferrals? Does he still get paid? Loll

[Dick_Pole]

Or was the fact that we were in it until the end a reflection of how stupid Atkins is?

 

Everyone else backed out when they realized Shohei's agents were playing them, Jays were the only team dumb enough to get strung along until the end.

 

Dumb take. Someone is stupid only when they take irresponsible actions or have ignorance that can result in some sort of harm to them. Nothing bad happened with this pursual by the Jays, except media people being dumb. A lot of goodwill was built though imo. I guess you could say they missed out on Soto but I don't think that was going to be a successful pursuit anyways. Based on what the Yankees traded, the Jays would have likely had to overpay more than what I'm comfortable with. And plus there was no rule against the Jays pursuing both guys at the same time.

[Stottlemyres_Bloody_Chin]

Dumb take. Someone is stupid only when they take irresponsible actions or have ignorance that can result in some sort of harm to them. Nothing bad happened with this pursual by the Jays, except media people being dumb. A lot of goodwill was built though imo. I guess you could say they missed out on Soto but I don't think that was going to be a successful pursuit anyways. Based on what the Yankees traded, the Jays would have likely had to overpay more than what I'm comfortable with. And plus there was no rule against the Jays pursuing both guys at the same time.

 

You clearly don't get it.

[max silver]

You clearly don't get it.

 

What point were you even trying to make? There was no downside to Atkins attempting to lure Ohtani to the Jays. If they succeeded then there is the obvious benefit of adding one of MLB's best players to the team's roster. If he missed as was obviously the case, the Dodgers had to pay a higher price due to the added competition, and Atkins simply pivots to the other targets in the meantime. MLB essentially ground to a halt waiting for Ohtani to pick his new team, so there was literally nothing lost in attempting to sign Ohtani other than some fans ultimately being disappointed that he chose a different team which was almost the most realistic scenario in the first place.

[Brownie19]

You clearly don't get it.

 

f***, that's rich.

[Stottlemyres_Bloody_Chin]

What point were you even trying to make? There was no downside to Atkins attempting to lure Ohtani to the Jays. If they succeeded then there is the obvious benefit of adding one of MLB's best players to the team's roster. If he missed as was obviously the case, the Dodgers had to pay a higher price due to the added competition, and Atkins simply pivots to the other targets in the meantime. MLB essentially ground to a halt waiting for Ohtani to pick his new team, so there was literally nothing lost in attempting to sign Ohtani other than some fans ultimately being disappointed that he chose a different team which was almost the most realistic scenario in the first place.

 

You've completely missed the point.

[max silver]

You've completely missed the point.

 

As far as I can tell you didn't even have one which lines up perfectly with the rest of your posting history. Just angry diatribe after angry diatribe with no substance. That and a drama queen board "exit" which you unfortunately reneged on.

[Stottlemyres_Bloody_Chin]

What point were you even trying to make? There was no downside to Atkins attempting to lure Ohtani to the Jays. If they succeeded then there is the obvious benefit of adding one of MLB's best players to the team's roster. If he missed as was obviously the case, the Dodgers had to pay a higher price due to the added competition, and Atkins simply pivots to the other targets in the meantime. MLB essentially ground to a halt waiting for Ohtani to pick his new team, so there was literally nothing lost in attempting to sign Ohtani other than some fans ultimately being disappointed that he chose a different team which was almost the most realistic scenario in the first place.

 

You s*** all over me calling me f***ing stupid, which was uncalled for, I hadn't attacked you.

 

Now you think I'm going to waste my time debating with you after that?

 

I stand by my opinion, sorry it doesn't line up with yours, at least not yet anyways. But in a few more years you'll be complaining about Atkins on here with the rest of us. And you'll conveniently forget how you were a jerk to those who saw the light before you did.

[Stottlemyres_Bloody_Chin]

As far as I can tell you didn't even have one which lines up perfectly with the rest of your posting history. Just angry diatribe after angry diatribe with no substance. That and a drama queen board "exit" which you unfortunately reneged on.

 

Putting you on ignore now...why don't you do the same to me?

[Dick_Pole]

You s*** all over me calling me f***ing stupid, which was uncalled for, I hadn't attacked you.

 

Now you think I'm going to waste my time debating with you after that?

 

I stand by my opinion, sorry it doesn't line up with yours, at least not yet anyways. But in a few more years you'll be complaining about Atkins on here with the rest of us. And you'll conveniently forget how you were a jerk to those who saw the light before you did.

 

Your last few posts weren't addressed to me, but plenty of people have criticized Atkins for plenty of very valid reasons, myself included. This should not be one of them. If he was strung along, well so was everyone else who bet up the Jays to land Ohtani from +4,000 to +150, the reporters with egg on their faces and the countless salty fans of other teams who commented on it. The Jays FO and Rogers come out looking very good in this Ohtani saga, no matter what a very angry and negative keyboard warriors think. One of the few times where Rogers is going to be cheered on as an underdog.

[DigitalRock]

Putting you on ignore now...why don't you do the same to me?

 

Stottlemyres_Bloody_Vagina?

[Stottlemyres_Bloody_Chin]

Stottlemyres_Bloody_Vagina?

 

That's pretty funny, have you thought about being a stand up comic?

[RustyTrombone]

These morons will look for any possible reason to s*** on Atkins and Shapiro.

[Frenchsoup]

Let's see there product, not looking great right now with all there cash and trade chips atm but we'll have to wait...

[Marew]

Who here has a bunch of money to win the AL next year at 25% odds now?

[Spanky99]

Putting you on ignore now...why don't you do the same to me?

 

Why don't you make like a tree and f***off like you said you were, snowflake? We'll just end up seeing you have another meltdown as you live in Mamby Pamby Land, you jackwagon.

[Carlos Danger]

Stottlemyres_Bloody_Vagina?

 

Hey, that’s trademarked!

[Stangstag]

 

Doosh.

 

“Haha these guys think I actually want to play in Toronto”

[Carlos Danger]

 

Doosh.

 

“Haha these guys think I actually want to play in Toronto”

 

Chilling with his dog named "Decoy", with a CAA client radio silent on the plane...

[Dick_Pole]

 

Pretty sure that Ohtani is an asexual baseball-playing AI and being the cause of internet drama is his version of secret BDSM play.

 

Confirmed.