Ohtani Thread - Special Sheriff's Edition (Update: confirmed going to the Dodgers)

[connorp]

If breast pumped full of hormones and antibiotics with a 6week kill time meets your standard for chicken, then sure, it's chicken...

 

I’d never watch a documentary on this sort of thing. I understand all that stuff but there’s some things where ignorance is bliss.

[glory]

If King is as good as he showed in the final 1-2 months of 2023, then that’s probably the best deal the Padres could get in terms of their goals (winning right away). Manoah is too risky, Tiedemann has thrown like 100 innings in 2 years in the minors, and Schmidt looks like lower end SP. I could see the Padres pulling the trigger if King is involved, though he comes with his own set of risk (injury risk, lack of IP, etc). Preller would be smart to wait for Ohtani to sign first, though. Could open up the Soto market and maybe get them a deal they like better.

[connorp]

If King is as good as he showed in the final 1-2 months of 2023, then that’s probably the best deal the Padres could get in terms of their goals (winning right away). Manoah is too risky, Tiedemann has thrown like 100 innings in 2 years in the minors, and Schmidt looks like lower end SP. I could see the Padres pulling the trigger if King is involved, though he comes with his own set of risk (injury risk, lack of IP, etc). Preller would be smart to wait for Ohtani to sign first, though. Could open up the Soto market and maybe get them a deal they like better.

 

I’d guess King plus a few lottery tickets gets it done.

[connorp]

Mmm.. only get 2 years of King though. Maybe not

[Frenchsoup]

Lets see how much San Diego has to eat off the Soto contract

[Jimcanuck]

Lets see how much San Diego has to eat off the Soto contract

 

0..

[Frenchsoup]

that would be nice...

[connorp]

0..

 

Well, that would be a pretty big alpha rebuild move. Trade Soto paying his whole salary.

[BTS]

Soto is going to hit many cheap homers into the right field short porch

[John_Havok]

Well, that would be a pretty big alpha rebuild move. Trade Soto paying his whole salary.

 

They aren't trading him because they want to rebuild. They're losing 10s of millions of dollars from their RSN deal and need to shed payroll.

[Marew]

Fortunately we are favourites for ohtani. Circumstantial evidence is too big to ignore. If we had to do a trial to decide where he wanted to go, if he said “we will let the trial decide”. The evidence points to jays.

[Stangstag]

Soto is going to hit many cheap homers into the right field short porch

 

When Soto pulls the ball in the air its probably long gone anyways... it would be more helpful if he was a righty IMO

[John_Havok]

Fortunately we are favourites for ohtani. Circumstantial evidence is too big to ignore. If we had to do a trial to decide where he wanted to go, if he said “we will let the trial decide”. The evidence points to jays.

 

I wouldn't quite say favorites but meeting with him at the performance complex was a great move. Showing him all the facilities he would have unlimited access to in order to keep being the baseball robot he is could make a huge difference.

 

Not that I don't think the Dodgers also have such a place but nothing is mentioned about one when looking at their ST complex, which is incredibly awesomely named Camelback Ranch.

 

Parody song of Cadillac Ranch incoming soon...

[connorp]

They aren't trading him because they want to rebuild. They're losing 10s of millions of dollars from their RSN deal and need to shed payroll.

 

Yes, I know. But I just meant if a team did that, they could really maximize their return.

[Carlos Danger]

Decision expected Sunday biiiitches.

[John_Havok]

Yes, I know. But I just meant if a team did that, they could really maximize their return.

 

Sure. In fact The Padres could have themselves one hell of a fire sale if they wanted to

 

There's lots of guys there that could net a full rebuild kind of roster in probably less than 2 seasons

[Maahfaace]

Where are you getting this information about pumping them full of hormones?

 

The USDA has banned all hormones and steroids in poultry since the 1950s. No hormones or steroids are approved by the US Food and Drug Administration for use in poultry, and doing so via the water, feed or injection is specifically prohibited by law. Also, Canada banned the use of hormones in Canadian poultry on March 4, 1963.. And of course companies have been promoting that they are selling chicken that's been raised without the use of hormones, which is a f***ing dirty tactic, because all chickens are raised without the use of hormones - they are just feeding off the idiots who believe internet memes - including the one that woman's breasts are getting larger these days because they eat so much chicken with hormones in them.

 

I should have clarified, pumped was the wrong word to use referencing genetic modification in my original post. Fact is, unnatural chicken growth is a direct result of decades of selective breeding, this unatural process has the birds growing too fast and too large. Meat quality has dropped substantially, less protein and more fatty deposits, which is evident by how much chewier the meat is now. You can easily tell via "white striping" on an uncooked breast.

 

Because of this, a lot of these birds are unable to support their own body weight, and they end up laying in fecal matter under severely cramped conditions. This requires a very high amount of antibiotics to keep the chicken alive until its ready for slaughter at 6 weeks. By contrast, the birds I raise are 12-14 weeks to table, and have zero white striping. They do, however, weigh about 25% less, but the meat is fantastic.

[John_Havok]

Decision expected Sunday biiiitches.

 

He's guessing, but...it would be nice. The suspense is literally killing me figuratively.

[max silver]

Soto is going to hit many cheap homers into the right field short porch

 

Interestingly Yankee Stadium was tied for the worst park when it comes to expected home runs for Soto in 2023, and in most of previous seasons his expected home runs were worse in Yankee Stadium than his actual home stadiums. For his career he simply hasn't been a pull hitter as most of his batted balls go to center field, so he would need to make a conscious swing decision to fully take advantage of the short porch.

[John_Havok]

I should have clarified, pumped was the wrong word to use referencing genetic modification in my original post. Fact is, unnatural chicken growth is a direct result of decades of selective breeding, this unatural process has the birds growing too fast and too large. Meat quality has dropped substantially, less protein and more fatty deposits, which is evident by how much chewier the meat is now. You can easily tell via "white striping" on an uncooked breast.

 

Because of this, a lot of these birds are unable to support their own body weight, and they end up laying in fecal matter under severely cramped conditions. This requires a very high amount of antibiotics to keep the chicken alive until its ready for slaughter at 6 weeks. By contrast, the birds I raise are 12-14 weeks to table, and have zero white striping. They do, however, weigh about 25% less, but the meat is fantastic.

 

I'll take 3.

[Brownie19]

I should have clarified, pumped was the wrong word to use referencing genetic modification in my original post. Fact is, unnatural chicken growth is a direct result of decades of selective breeding, this unatural process has the birds growing too fast and too large. Meat quality has dropped substantially, less protein and more fatty deposits, which is evident by how much chewier the meat is now. You can easily tell via "white striping" on an uncooked breast.

 

Because of this, a lot of these birds are unable to support their own body weight, and they end up laying in fecal matter under severely cramped conditions. This requires a very high amount of antibiotics to keep the chicken alive until its ready for slaughter at 6 weeks. By contrast, the birds I raise are 12-14 weeks to table, and have zero white striping. They do, however, weigh about 25% less, but the meat is fantastic.

 

Thanks for clarifying.

[max silver]

I should have clarified, pumped was the wrong word to use referencing genetic modification in my original post. Fact is, unnatural chicken growth is a direct result of decades of selective breeding, this unatural process has the birds growing too fast and too large. Meat quality has dropped substantially, less protein and more fatty deposits, which is evident by how much chewier the meat is now. You can easily tell via "white striping" on an uncooked breast.

 

Because of this, a lot of these birds are unable to support their own body weight, and they end up laying in fecal matter under severely cramped conditions. This requires a very high amount of antibiotics to keep the chicken alive until its ready for slaughter at 6 weeks. By contrast, the birds I raise are 12-14 weeks to table, and have zero white striping. They do, however, weigh about 25% less, but the meat is fantastic.

 

Are you one of those interesting characters that lives completely off of the grid, or simply located in a rural setting? I'd guess that most of us on this board wouldn't be able to raise their own chickens due to city bylaws and whatnot.

 

One of the contractors that I deal with at work built a home which is completely off of the grid and regularly mentions his massive stockpile of guns and ammo that he will readily leverage should s*** really hit the fan.

[Maahfaace]

I’d never watch a documentary on this sort of thing. I understand all that stuff but there’s some things where ignorance is bliss.

 

Not long ago I went down a rabbit hole with regards to processed foods in north America. It facilitated my move out of the city to an 8 acre hobby farm on the outskirts (I wasnt willing to give up on the amenities of city life) There are days I regret researching all this stuff, because you're right, ignorance is bliss. But seeing a hot dog under a microscope loaded with tiny bits of plastic because feed for pork allows a certain percentage of plastic in it, I'm glad I've awoken.

[Maahfaace]

Are you one of those interesting characters that lives completely off of the grid, or simply located in a rural setting? I'd guess that most of us on this board wouldn't be able to raise their own chickens due to city bylaws and whatnot.

 

One of the contractors that I deal with at work built a home which is completely off of the grid and regularly mentions his massive stockpile of guns and ammo that he will readily leverage should s*** really hit the fan.

 

Haha no, I ain't a crazy man. COVID made me re-evaluate a ton of s*** and I wanted a simpler/healthier life for my kids. Plus, I don't have to load my dirt bike into the truck anymore, just fire it up and go.

[Brownie19]

Not long ago I went down a rabbit hole with regards to processed foods in north America. It facilitated my move out of the city to an 8 acre hobby farm on the outskirts (I wasnt willing to give up on the amenities of city life) There are days I regret researching all this stuff, because you're right, ignorance is bliss. But seeing a hot dog under a microscope loaded with tiny bits of plastic because feed for pork allows a certain percentage of plastic in it, I'm glad I've awoken.

 

I believe it's accurate to say there are microplastics in a ton of s*** now and we are in fact ingesting more than ever before. I'm not sure if the concentrations are higher in animal feed or not - I'm pretty sure it's not being intentionally added at least (which is what I thought you were originally saying - but maybe not). I also prefer the ignorance is bliss approach.

[connorp]

I should have clarified, pumped was the wrong word to use referencing genetic modification in my original post. Fact is, unnatural chicken growth is a direct result of decades of selective breeding, this unatural process has the birds growing too fast and too large. Meat quality has dropped substantially, less protein and more fatty deposits, which is evident by how much chewier the meat is now. You can easily tell via "white striping" on an uncooked breast.

 

Because of this, a lot of these birds are unable to support their own body weight, and they end up laying in fecal matter under severely cramped conditions. This requires a very high amount of antibiotics to keep the chicken alive until its ready for slaughter at 6 weeks. By contrast, the birds I raise are 12-14 weeks to table, and have zero white striping. They do, however, weigh about 25% less, but the meat is fantastic.

 

You’re not taking your pet chicken on family vacations. They’re still living in a coop for the sole purpose of being slaughtered. Plants are living things too. How you raise animals for slaughter and harvest crops is more about hipsters wanting to know what’s going in their bodies

 

I’m an animal lover, but you have to look at these sort of things objectively.

[John_Havok]

Not long ago I went down a rabbit hole with regards to processed foods in north America. It facilitated my move out of the city to an 8 acre hobby farm on the outskirts (I wasnt willing to give up on the amenities of city life) There are days I regret researching all this stuff, because you're right, ignorance is bliss. But seeing a hot dog under a microscope loaded with tiny bits of plastic because feed for pork allows a certain percentage of plastic in it, I'm glad I've awoken.

 

This is a very condensed version of why I chose to go back to university and study Dietetics and Nutrition.

[bluejaysinternNo5]

Mods can we make a new thread for f***ing chicken talk

[connorp]

Not long ago I went down a rabbit hole with regards to processed foods in north America. It facilitated my move out of the city to an 8 acre hobby farm on the outskirts (I wasnt willing to give up on the amenities of city life) There are days I regret researching all this stuff, because you're right, ignorance is bliss. But seeing a hot dog under a microscope loaded with tiny bits of plastic because feed for pork allows a certain percentage of plastic in it, I'm glad I've awoken.

 

Yeah, I mean. I just wouldn’t have wanted to watch any of the stuff you do. It’s like thinking about germs and then if you ever go through food safety and learn about bacteria. When you go to eat that 3 hour old sandwich that didn’t hit the fridge, if you think you about that stuff, you’re not eating it. Ignorance is bliss for me.

[Maahfaace]

You’re not taking your pet chicken on family vacations. They’re still living in a coop for the sole purpose of being slaughtered. Plants are living things too. How you raise animals for slaughter and harvest crops is more about hipsters wanting to know what’s going in their bodies

 

I’m an animal lover, but you have to look at these sort of things objectively.

 

Don't mistake my desire for healthier meat for some sob story about veganism.