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For all the criticism of Varsho, Varsho is not out on that play, nor is KK. They are both damn good base runners.

 

True. Yes they are. But it’s ok criticize a player with an 88 wRC+ and 1 WAR when we simply need more from him.

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Bo wasn't even looking at the 3B coach lmao

 

Crazy how guys get to this level without knowing to watch the base coach

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Was Bo sent or no?

 

He was initially being waved home and then got the late one handed stop sign after he rounded 3rd. Horrendous coach is to blame

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He was initially being waved home and then got the late one handed stop sign after he rounded 3rd. Horrendous coach is to blame

 

Wouldn’t be surprised if it WAS Rivera’s fault. I assumed so immediately

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For all the criticism of Varsho, Varsho is not out on that play, nor is KK. They are both damn good base runners.

 

Sure but the main problem is there never on f***ing base

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Can we get a wellness check on Grant please? 0-6 vs the Red Sox this year. You ok buddy?

 

If they reversed that, it would be a completely different outlook right now

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If they reversed that, it would be a completely different outlook right now

 

3-3 even would make the team look way better

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Can we get a wellness check on Grant please? 0-6 vs the Red Sox this year. You ok buddy?

 

Grant is hibernating in a forest outside of Thunder Bay.

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Bo running through that late stop sign can't happen to end a game, both are idiots. John Schneider saying no-one is to blame irked me, he should've said that simply can't happen at this level. Ughh...
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Holy f*** people.. Rivera was initially waving him before putting up a very late stop sign. My problem is that Rivera has a tendency of waving a runner initially like an excited school girl in gym class before he even makes a proper assessment of the play. He needs to not make any decisions until the runner is about to round the bag and be more decisive and demonstrative. I wish we still had Butterfield.
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Holy f*** people.. Rivera was initially waving him before putting up a very late stop sign. My problem is that Rivera has a tendency of waving a runner initially like an excited school girl in gym class before he even makes a proper assessment of the play. He needs to not make any decisions until the runner is about to round the bag and be more decisive and demonstrative. I wish we still had Butterfield.

 

I think Bo tried to slow down/stop and realized he was well past halfway to home already. He almost certainly would have been a dead duck at third much like he was at home so it's a pick your poison scenario at that point.

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7-19 vs AL east

38-20 vs the rest

 

Jays are not playing like a championship team, I expect much better from them. Lets hope they make some serious adjustments.

Team isn’t going anywhere playing like that in the division.

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I think Bo tried to slow down/stop and realized he was well past halfway to home already. He almost certainly would have been a dead duck at third much like he was at home so it's a pick your poison scenario at that point.

 

Agreed, but it's Rivera who put him in that spot to begin with.

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Holy f*** people.. Rivera was initially waving him before putting up a very late stop sign. My problem is that Rivera has a tendency of waving a runner initially like an excited school girl in gym class before he even makes a proper assessment of the play. He needs to not make any decisions until the runner is about to round the bag and be more decisive and demonstrative. I wish we still had Butterfield.

 

Yeah its Rivera’s fault. You can’t throw up the stop sign halfway down the baseline. And even if Bo never stopped running he’s still out by 10 feet at least.

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Holy f*** people.. Rivera was initially waving him before putting up a very late stop sign. My problem is that Rivera has a tendency of waving a runner initially like an excited school girl in gym class before he even makes a proper assessment of the play. He needs to not make any decisions until the runner is about to round the bag and be more decisive and demonstrative. I wish we still had Butterfield.

 

When coming from 2nd you would always wave someone unless you know 100% they are going to stop at 3b. You wave them so they make the turn. Then the 3b coach needs to set up down far enough down the line so that the runner can see them once they make the turn and know to stop or go.

 

We were literally just working on this on my son’s little league team a month or so ago. Both first base and third. The three plays and signs by the coach are run straight through the base then turn in so you are out of play. Make a turn towards 2b and depending on situation go to 2b or come back to the bag at 1b. The coach is supposed to be giving signs and verbal commands.

 

We tell the kids every drill. Pick up your base coaches, stop looking at the ball, especially on infield hits. Pick up your base coaches!!!!

 

I can’t tell from the video where Rivera put up the stop sign. However, it would be normal to windmill so he makes the turn at 3b and then heads down the line a little vs sliding into 3b just stopping on the bag. Once Bo makes the turn he needs to pick up the coach also, who should be down the line in front of him.

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One positive thing to take away from this game is the fact that they didn't lay down like we're so accustomed to seeing, salvage today's game and sweep the next two easy match ups and its not such a bleak all star break.
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One positive thing to take away from this game is the fact that they didn't lay down like we're so accustomed to seeing, salvage today's game and sweep the next two easy match ups and its not such a bleak all star break.

 

Really really really want a win today to get back on track

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