General Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2023)

[Spanky99]

Jesus H. Christ, man!

[Carlos Danger]

Most users ever online was 39,129, 06-19-2023 at 04:23 PM.

What occurred at that date and time? I thought for sure that Friday with the Ohtani news would break the record. I mean the news did crash the board.

[Omar]

Most users ever online was 39,129, 06-19-2023 at 04:23 PM.

What occurred at that date and time? I thought for sure that Friday with the Ohtani news would break the record. I mean the news did crash the board.

 

Losing streak. We had just lost 7 of our last 10 including losing 11-0 to the Marlins. Panic sets in.

[Marew]

There has never been 39,525 jays cheer club members online. Probably just spankys Alt account's, lil bow wow or whatever it’s called

[G-Snarls]

I'd give Tidemann for Parades. 4 years of control on that guy...2b/3b.

 

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/isaac-paredes/20036/stats?position=3B

 

Me too

 

Even though it would pretty much guarantee that Tiedeman becomes the next David Price

[Chappy]

Me too

 

Even though it would pretty much guarantee that Tiedeman becomes the next David Price

 

We’re win now, I’d do it too.

[Rimar]

I will never do such, will be a really bad move. Even for Manoah I wouldn't. Good young SP with years of control are very hard to find and expensive, so if have to trade one, should only be for a star player, no for a easy to find infield player, no matter if he have years of control. If we can land Yamamoto, and we keep Manoah and Tidermann, we won't have to stress about replacing Gausmann, Berios and Bassit. The price to get good SP will be insanely too high. So better keep Chapman 4/100, sign Soler 3/54, Bellinger 6/180 and Yamamoto 10/220. I don't think Chapman and Bellinger will get respectively contracts of more than 4 years for Chapy and 6 for Bellinger from other teams.

[Rimar]

LF-Springer

SS-Bichette

RF-Bellinger

1B-Vlad

DH-Soler

CC-Kirk

3B-Chapman

CF-Varsho

2B-Espinal

[max silver]

Me too

 

Even though it would pretty much guarantee that Tiedeman becomes the next David Price

 

I'm just really leery of whether Paredes will continue having the type of success he enjoyed in 2023 as his expected stats are really underwhelming. I wouldn't say I'd place Tiedemann in the untouchable category but it's awfully close.

[G-Snarls]

LF-Springer

SS-Bichette

RF-Bellinger

1B-Vlad

DH-Soler

CC-Kirk

3B-Chapman

CF-Varsho

2B-Espinal

 

Bench Schneider, Jansen, Biggio and one more OF

[Eat My Shatkins]

Zips has the Jays projected for what..86 wins right now?

 

Probably still going to add a LF, 3B and DH.

 

Chapman, Bellinger and Martinez would add about 7 wins to the projections

[Spanky99]

Most users ever online was 39,129, 06-19-2023 at 04:23 PM.

What occurred at that date and time? I thought for sure that Friday with the Ohtani news would break the record. I mean the news did crash the board.

 

Go look, we ain't your bitch.

Edited December 14, 2023 by Spanky99

[Captain_Obvious]

Please stay away from Chapman. He is clearly declining offensively. The guy produced wRC+ 75 or less in 4 of the 6 months of the season. For context, Varsho outhit Chapman in May, June, August, and September. Varsho was a better hitter than Chapman in the second half.

[Grant77]

Please stay away from Chapman. He is clearly declining offensively. The guy produced wRC+ 75 or less in 4 of the 6 months of the season. For context, Varsho outhit Chapman in May, June, August, and September. Varsho was a better hitter than Chapman in the second half.

 

You can’t just ignore a month or two where a guy was literally the best player in the game.

[Captain_Obvious]

You can’t just ignore a month or two where a guy was literally the best player in the game.

 

He is inconsistently bad offensively; often really bad with some flashes of good performance. Given that his monster month was April, it is clear that the league adjusted to him.

[Rimar]

With Vlad, Bichette, Soler, Bellinger, Springer as heart of our offense, guys like Chapman and Varsho, will be more here for their defense skills. And both can hit 20+ HR. But no more than 4 years for Chapman.

[Rimar]

Adkins should check if Manny Machado on trade market. If Padres agree to retain part of his salary, maybe something like Manoah, Orelvis and Biggio can convince them🤔

[G-Snarls]

Are the Padres going to tear it down though? Or just trade away the short term pieces.

[Carlos Danger]

LF-Springer

SS-Bichette

RF-Bellinger

1B-Vlad

DH-Soler

CC-Kirk

3B-Chapman

CF-Varsho

2B-Espinal

 

If Espinal is even a utility guy I am going to be pissed. If he is our starting 2b, I will

throw up in my mouth..

[M.E.]

Can someone let Atkins know the off-season started?

[Spanky99]

Can someone let Atkins know the off-season started?

 

*Hugs*

[jaysblue]

Atkins was spotted at Pearson yesterday getting his shoes shined haha. Saw on Twitter.

[Dr. Dinger]

Atkins was spotted at Pearson yesterday getting his shoes shined haha. Saw on Twitter.

 

I always wondered what kinda ******* actually uses those.

[Brownie19]

I always wondered what kinda ******* actually uses those.

 

Supporting someone who's offering a service to make some money is bad? I've never taken time to get my shoes shined, but I love a nicely shined shoe.

[Terminator]

Can one of you Bellinger fan boys please explain why I should want him? I want to believe but I can’t get there. Thanks

[Eat My Shatkins]

Can one of you Bellinger fan boys please explain why I should want him? I want to believe but I can’t get there. Thanks

 

Haha, I'm the same.

 

I keep telling myself what he was last year is what we need, and what he'll be going forward.

I also tell myself that his down years were more a reflection of his shoulder injury and COVID than him being a phony.

 

Jays seem to be after him, hopefully they know what the EFF they're doing.

[Jimcanuck]

Can one of you Bellinger fan boys please explain why I should want him? I want to believe but I can’t get there. Thanks

 

Largest risk/reward of any free agent. Worth the gamble for the Jays more than perhaps any other team, given the team situation.

 

In other words, if Bellinger delivers a "good" year, the Jays are in the post season with a good chance to reach the WS while they still have Bo/Vlad.

[connorp]

Largest risk/reward of any free agent. Worth the gamble for the Jays more than perhaps any other team, given the team situation.

 

Varsho is Corner OF long-term in that case.

[Jimcanuck]

Varsho is Corner OF long-term in that case.

 

No, Springer LF, Varsho CF, Bellinger RF.

 

As far as CF goes, Kiermaier > Varsho > Bellinger.

[Brownie19]

Varsho is Corner OF long-term in that case.

 

Why? Why can't Belly go to RF and Springer to LF? I mean unless he insists on playing CF as part of the deal of course.