General Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2023)

[RobinThicc]

Sign Yamamoto for sure

[Daniel Labude]

That article doesn’t have my favorite scenario.

 

Trade Vlad Jr for Soto. Padres save a lot of money and we get better, change culture.

 

Yankees are already in discussions with Padres, we better act fast.

 

Now explain why Padres would do this lmao?

[connorp]

Now explain why Padres would do this lmao?

 

Doesn’t seem too crazy. Vlad you get two years instead of 1. You’re looking at a much less crazy extension at this point you’d think. Soto wants 10/450 with another good season.

 

Vlad- 1b

Kim- 2b

Bogey- SS

Machado- 3b

[bluejaysinternNo5]

Now explain why Padres would do this lmao?

 

Preller does lots of things. Can absolutely see him making a trade like that.

[Daniel Labude]

Doesn’t seem too crazy. Vlad you get two years instead of 1. You’re looking at a much less crazy extension at this point you’d think. Soto wants 10/450 with another good season.

 

Vlad- 1b

Kim- 2b

Bogey- SS

Machado- 3b

 

No chance

[connorp]

No chance

 

No chance it’ll ever happen, I’m just commenting I could see the reasoning

[Daniel Labude]

No chance it’ll ever happen, I’m just commenting I could see the reasoning

 

They will want a young player on a rookie contract basically or top prospect

[connorp]

They will want a young player on a rookie contract basically or top prospect

 

Yeah I get the Betts deal is the benchmark. I forget where Verdugo was on the Pipeline scale. That’s the likely course, no doubt

[deanmike]

That article doesn’t have my favorite scenario.

 

Trade Vlad Jr for Soto. Padres save a lot of money and we get better, change culture.

 

Yankees are already in discussions with Padres, we better act fast.

 

That would be an absolute masterclass fleece if Shatkins could pull that off. Vlad's value on BTV is only 0.3 now (no one should be surprised by this, he's literally a replacement level DH that's going to make 20M in arbitration), while Soto's value on BTV is 22.9.

[Ehjays]

https://www.sportsnet.ca/mlb/article/mapping-out-the-off-season-10-hypothetical-paths-ahead-for-the-blue-jays/

 

This is kind of a fun article.

 

Thanks ...I like the very first comment "The biggest challenge facing the jays front office, is the Jays front office."

[Carlos Danger]

Now explain why Padres would do this lmao?

 

$$$$ Industry chatter is they want to cut budget. Maybe to the point of being below the luxury tax.

[Daniel Labude]

$$$$ Industry chatter is they want to cut budget. Maybe to the point of being below the luxury tax.

 

Dropping the little bit down to Vlad wouldn't be where they do it though. Dropping from Soto to rookie contracts or prospects is how they would make the drop

[Laika]

Dropping the little bit down to Vlad wouldn't be where they do it though. Dropping from Soto to rookie contracts or prospects is how they would make the drop

 

$13M isn't nothing. Plus they get a player with 2 years of control.

 

They could also be looking to dump Soto and some bad money on a team. If the Yankees and Padres make a deal maybe the Yankees also take on Suarez or Cronenworth.

[connorp]

$13M isn't nothing. Plus they get a player with 2 years of control.

 

They could also be looking to dump Soto and some bad money on a team. If the Yankees and Padres make a deal maybe the Yankees also take on Suarez or Cronenworth.

 

Yeah you’d think Cronenworth might be part of any deal. Would be wise. You still get a Verdugo guy plus do some dumping

[glory]

Taking Cronenworth with 7/78 left on his deal at ages 30-36 just for one expensive season of Juan Soto seems like a really bad idea for whoever does it. Brian Cashman would probably do it though.

[connorp]

Taking Cronenworth with 7/78 left on his deal at ages 30-36 just for one expensive season of Juan Soto seems like a really bad idea for whoever does it. Brian Cashman would probably do it though.

 

I’d assume the team trading for him is doing their due diligence on his extension. If it’s a definite no-go, I’m not sure they’d trade for just 1 year.

[Stangstag]

I’d assume the team trading for him is doing their due diligence on his extension. If it’s a definite no-go, I’m not sure they’d trade for just 1 year.

 

Why not? Soto is the type of bat that can win you a championship. Thought youd be all over him considering your comments the past few days.

[connorp]

Why not? Soto is the type of bat that can win you a championship. Thought youd be all over him considering your comments the past few days.

 

You didn’t read a single comment I made these last few days. Sensationalizing doesn’t equal reading

[Daniel Labude]

Taking Cronenworth with 7/78 left on his deal at ages 30-36 just for one expensive season of Juan Soto seems like a really bad idea for whoever does it. Brian Cashman would probably do it though.

 

Definitely could see them doing it or NYM

[Stangstag]

You didn’t read a single comment I made these last few days. Sensationalizing doesn’t equal reading

 

Unfortunately I read most of them. Soto is the “elite bat” you’ve been speaking of these past few days. If a playoff-bound team has a shot to add him to their roster, even if only for 1 season, gotta think they would do it.

[Ehjays]

[Stangstag]

 

Gym is great but he’s still gonna be fat if he eats too much

[L54]

Good stuff. Manoah’s jump in the second video is great for a big man.

[connorp]

Unfortunately I read most of them. Soto is the “elite bat” you’ve been speaking of these past few days. If a playoff-bound team has a shot to add him to their roster, even if only for 1 season, gotta think they would do it.

 

He’s a game changer, sure. But it’s like I’m the Bluejays with a 20% chance of beating ATL in a series, now I add Soto to be more dangerous in the PS and have a 30% chance of beating ATL. So for one season, does it make sense?

 

But I do believe every GM in baseball understands it’s likely they’ll lose the WAR to WAR trade at the end. I don’t think it’s about that. These are billion dollar businesses and there’s a ton that go into these decisions that we aren’t privy to. Not everything can be judged on a nerd calculator, before or after a deal. Sometimes you have to factor an actual calculator into the equation.

[Ehjays]

[Laika]

 

Gee whiz. Maybe with a better script they would have beat the middling Diamondbacks.

[connorp]

Gee whiz. Maybe with a better script they would have beat the middling Diamondbacks.

 

He was 1 game late on seeing and feeling Kimbrel

[Laika]

He was 1 game late on seeing and feeling Kimbrel

 

Nola was jekyl/hyde all year long so you think smart feely Rob Thomson could have taken him out a bit sooner than 82 pitches, in his stinker.

 

Not sure if there were any other objectionable decisions. Maybe not asking Christopher Sanchez for another inning or two.

[z3r0s]

He should have had a script and stuck with it, like the 2023 Blue Jays playoff strategy!

[wilko]

 

Oh look, he's doing things a professional athlete should be doing!