General Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2023)

[Ehjays]

Ross talks with Press about Bo signing.

 

[jerb]

[jerb]

[Stangstag]

Seems like a lot of new rules for one offseason honestly. I feel like they should only be introducing like 1 of these things each year or else s*** will get confusing for everyone really quick. We’ll see how April goes

[Krylian]

I'm curious if the umps not feeling the buzzer becomes an issue from time to time. I have a smart watch and I'll admit, I don't always feel the vibrating on my wrist when my alarm goes off. I hope they really cranked that vibration up.

[TheHurl]

I'm curious if the umps not feeling the buzzer becomes an issue from time to time. I have a smart watch and I'll admit, I don't always feel the vibrating on my wrist when my alarm goes off. I hope they really cranked that vibration up.

 

MLB has thought of that and came up with this solution.

 

[Stangstag]

MLB has thought of that and came up with this solution.

 

 

Thats a pretty big earplug

[Krylian]

MLB has thought of that and came up with this solution.

 

 

 

Damn. Is it too late to become an umpire?

[L54]

Looking forward to seeing how these rules impact the pace of play. Could be a big positive if all goes according to plan

[Spanky99]

Say what ya want about Buck, but he's one tough hombre...

 

[wamco]

Would you rather have spend the 41m this off-season on- (assume varsho trade still happened and Green still signed)

 

bassitt (3x21),

belt (1/9)

Kk (1/9)

Swanson (1m in 2023, then rest of arby for remaining years)

and Macko

 

Or

 

Rodon (6x27)

Teo (1/14)

[Jimcanuck]

Would you rather have spend the 41m this off-season on- (assume varsho trade still happened and Green still signed)

 

bassitt (3x21),

belt (1/9)

Kk (1/9)

Swanson (1m in 2023, then rest of arby for remaining years)

and Macko

 

Or

 

Rodon (6x27)

Teo (1/14)

 

First option, easily. Teo is a free agent after this season, and we got controllable assets back. Rodon contract is likely going to be a disaster after a few years, or even this year (whenever his next serious injury occurs).

[The_DH]

Say what ya want about Buck, but he's one tough hombre...

 

 

It's one of the most memorable plays to me. Pretty much ended his career and it was at great personal risk to himself but he did it.

[Ray]

Would you rather have spend the 41m this off-season on- (assume varsho trade still happened and Green still signed)

 

bassitt (3x21),

belt (1/9)

Kk (1/9)

Swanson (1m in 2023, then rest of arby for remaining years)

and Macko

 

Or

 

Rodon (6x27)

Teo (1/14)

 

According to ZiPS:

 

Bassitt (2.5 fWAR) + Belt (2.0 fWAR) + Kiermaier (2.0 fWAR) + Swanson (0.7 fWAR) = 7.2 fWAR

 

vs.

 

Teo (2.5 fWAR) + Rodon (4.6 fWAR) = 7.1 fWAR

 

It's actually closer than I thought. WAR-wise it's basically a wash, but I think the approach we ultimately ended up going with fills more holes, adds more versatility to our roster, and also hedges against underperformance/injuries.

[Spanky99]

It's one of the most memorable plays to me. Pretty much ended his career and it was at great personal risk to himself but he did it.

 

Same, 38 years ago... Wow!!!

[Spanky99]

According to ZiPS:

 

Bassitt (2.5 fWAR) + Belt (2.0 fWAR) + Kiermaier (2.0 fWAR) + Swanson (0.7 fWAR) = 7.2 fWAR

 

vs.

 

Teo (2.5 fWAR) + Rodon (4.6 fWAR) = 7.1 fWAR

 

It's actually closer than I thought. WAR-wise it's basically a wash, but I think the approach we ultimately ended up going with fills more holes, adds more versatility to our roster, and also hedges against underperformance/injuries.

 

You like using Zips for data?

[wamco]

According to ZiPS:

 

Bassitt (2.5 fWAR) + Belt (2.0 fWAR) + Kiermaier (2.0 fWAR) + Swanson (0.7 fWAR) = 7.2 fWAR

 

vs.

 

Teo (2.5 fWAR) + Rodon (4.6 fWAR) = 7.1 fWAR

 

It's actually closer than I thought. WAR-wise it's basically a wash, but I think the approach we ultimately ended up going with fills more holes, adds more versatility to our roster, and also hedges against underperformance/injuries.

 

I think I prob go option A as well…at least for the regular season. Gotta factor in rodon vs bassitt making playoff starts though.

[Deadpool]

According to ZiPS:

 

Bassitt (2.5 fWAR) + Belt (2.0 fWAR) + Kiermaier (2.0 fWAR) + Swanson (0.7 fWAR) = 7.2 fWAR

 

vs.

 

Teo (2.5 fWAR) + Rodon (4.6 fWAR) = 7.1 fWAR

 

It's actually closer than I thought. WAR-wise it's basically a wash, but I think the approach we ultimately ended up going with fills more holes, adds more versatility to our roster, and also hedges against underperformance/injuries.

 

Also, I like option A for next season and beyond as well. I'm pleased with how things played out.

[Krylian]

[mellowgold]

Also, I like option A for next season and beyond as well. I'm pleased with how things played out.

 

Yeah, this is the big difference for me. As illustrated earlier it's more or less a wash if we're only looking at 2023, but even this year, our depth is far better with option A.

[Dick_Pole]

According to ZiPS:

 

Bassitt (2.5 fWAR) + Belt (2.0 fWAR) + Kiermaier (2.0 fWAR) + Swanson (0.7 fWAR) = 7.2 fWAR

 

vs.

 

Teo (2.5 fWAR) + Rodon (4.6 fWAR) = 7.1 fWAR

 

It's actually closer than I thought. WAR-wise it's basically a wash, but I think the approach we ultimately ended up going with fills more holes, adds more versatility to our roster, and also hedges against underperformance/injuries.

 

Well the breakdown in logic comparing WAR here is that you are taking the contribution of four players versus just two. Those two extra roster spots would likely produce more than 0 WAR. That being said I still like the Jays offseason and I don't even know why this was brought up, as if the Jays were in serious contention to sign Rodon or that I had a remote interest in seeing the Jays sign him to the terms he got.

[wamco]

Sorry to bring it up. My bad. Won’t happen again

[L54]

I wouldn’t want to be paying Rodon for 6 years

[Pendleton]

I wouldn’t want to be paying Rodon for 6 years

 

Sorry to hear about Raquel Welch, I assume she was a hero of yours.

[L54]

Sorry to hear about Raquel Welch, I assume she was a hero of yours.

 

Who’s that

[Jimcanuck]

A lot of late nights watching 1,000 Years B.C.

[Virgil_Hiltz]

A lot of late nights watching 1,000 Years B.C.

 

or the prequel One Million Years B.C.

[Deadpool]

or the prequel One Million Years B.C.

 

Nobody wanted to remember that this movie existed. You've angered everyone.

[Deadpool]

 

Not quite a "best shape of my life", but the "new look for [player]" is a similar spring training staple.

[The_DH]

 

Not quite a "best shape of my life", but the "new look for [player]" is a similar spring training staple.

 

Dang I hope Kikuchi's got it. White had surgery and won't be ready. We're really short on 5th starter.