General Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2023)

[Brownie19]

Oh I'm not, connorp behaviour represents like 0.1% of the population, or about 30 people in a typical Rogers Centre crowd. Is 30 people "flying" to their death / game an acceptable amount?

 

FFS Jim - this is stupid. The chances of someone jumping off a ledge because their high are the same as a drunk doing the same thing. People who get paranoid on weed typically just sit there or they leave and go home. Let's all move on from this idiotic comment.

[The Cats Ass]

Oh I'm not, connorp behaviour represents like 0.1% of the population, or about 30 people in a typical Rogers Centre crowd. Is 30 people "flying" to their death / game an acceptable amount?

 

Paranoid people don't try to fly.

[The Cats Ass]

Just to clarify, these are all people like connor?

 

Maybe culling only 30 a game isn't enough.

[John_Havok]

Oh I'm not, connorp behaviour represents like 0.1% of the population, or about 30 people in a typical Rogers Centre crowd. Is 30 people "flying" to their death / game an acceptable amount?

 

Given the kind of person that would die this way is someone who thinks they can fly if smoking weed...... yes. Gene pool cleaning at its finest.

[Jimcanuck]

FFS Jim - this is stupid. The chances of someone jumping off a ledge because their high are the same as a drunk doing the same thing. People who get paranoid on weed typically just sit there or they leave and go home. Let's all move on from this idiotic comment.

 

My bad, I wasn't expecting anyone to take these comments seriously.

[Laika]

Oh I'm not, connorp behaviour represents like 0.1% of the population, or about 30 people in a typical Rogers Centre crowd. Is 30 people "flying" to their death / game an acceptable amount?

 

depends on the people I guess

[Brownie19]

My bad, I wasn't expecting anyone to take these comments seriously.

 

So I have this straight, during a conversation about serving cannabis products during a major sporting event (and when we might see something like this actually happen), you wanted to make a joke that people might jump over the railings.

 

What nights do you do standup?

[connorp]

Try an indica strain, and try lower THC with a bit of CBD still in it. Most of those who get paranoia get it from a sativa strain that's way too strong for them.

 

This is probably the case. Despite the racism accusations, the last good friend I had before I went full Muslim and stopped drinking was a big black guy- inner city type- he was my chef. He loved two things: weed and banging chicks. The only time I smoked as an adult was with him and it was probably the chronic stuff. I was like balled up in a corner freaking out lol

[jerb]

 

Keegan Matheson

@KeeganMatheson

 

Vladimir Guerrero Jr. says he’s feeling stronger and more flexible this year.

 

He expects the #BlueJays to be a “more complete team” in 2023, with more speed and defence than before.

[Terminator]

Vlad can't even must a "best shape of his life" quote this time around so you know we was fat and lazy this offseason.

[Laika]

So he ate well and did lots of stretching!

[Jimcanuck]

So I have this straight, during a conversation about serving cannabis products during a major sporting event (and when we might see something like this actually happen), you wanted to make a joke that people might jump over the railings.

 

What nights do you do standup?

 

reefer madness is real, man

 

see the post below yours

[wilko]

Vlad can't even must a "best shape of his life" quote this time around so you know we was fat and lazy this offseason.

 

That launch angle gonna suffer.

[John_Havok]

This is probably the case. Despite the racism accusations, the last good friend I had before I went full Muslim and stopped drinking was a big black guy- inner city type- he was my chef. He loved two things: weed and banging chicks. The only time I smoked as an adult was with him and it was probably the chronic stuff. I was like balled up in a corner freaking out lol

 

Yeah that's a classic case of a first timer with way too much THC. Start low, go slow and youd probably really enjoy it.

[G-Snarls]

So when Teo and Lourdes hit singles and are hanging out at 1B will they still be BFF with Vladdy? Or feel slighted by hit defense comments?

[John_Havok]

So when Teo and Lourdes hit singles and are hanging out at 1B will they still be BFF with Vladdy? Or feel slighted by hit defense comments?

 

Stating objective facts shouldn't really hurt the other guys feelings, I'm sure neither of them feel like they were top shelf defenders.

[jerb]

 

Shi Davidi

@ShiDavidi

 

Vladimir Guerrero Jr., in town for Blue Jays winter tour, says "this year we haven't had conversations yet" on a long-term deal.

 

"I'm going to stay focused on working hard and let my team take care of that," he added through interpreter Hector Lebron.

[G-Snarls]

He's spent the whole winter so far in the DR it seems like

 

They really should try to get something done right now

 

I'm fine with a 12 year deal at the right AAV.

 

He's still only 23, and the bat should age well

[Jimcanuck]

I wanna just buy out 2 or 3 FA years. He'll still be young enough when it expires. Want no part of thirty-something Vlad, tbh.

[glory]

He's spent the whole winter so far in the DR it seems like

 

They really should try to get something done right now

 

I'm fine with a 12 year deal at the right AAV.

 

He's still only 23, and the bat should age well

 

For luxury tax purposes, any Vlad extension should begin in 2024 so it doesn't impact 2023 lux tax payroll, so now that his 2023 arb figure is taken care of, maybe they will start the extension talks.

[G-Snarls]

I wanna just buy out 2 or 3 FA years. He'll still be young enough when it expires. Want no part of thirty-something Vlad, tbh.

 

Shorter deal anyone would want higher AAV

 

You'd prefer say 6-7 years x35M (about what Correa just got) over say 12 years x 28-30M?

[Jays24]

He's spent the whole winter so far in the DR it seems like

 

They really should try to get something done right now

 

I'm fine with a 12 year deal at the right AAV.

 

He's still only 23, and the bat should age well

 

Are you sure his body will age well? I don't trust fatties.

 

I've said it before but any Vlad extension needs to be structured similarly to Zion Williamson's in the NBA where he must be under a particular weight number or else the contract can be voided.

[The_DH]

The worse sign is that his father didn't age that well and he was in better shape.

[Jimcanuck]

Shorter deal anyone would want higher AAV

 

You'd prefer say 6-7 years x35M (about what Correa just got) over say 12 years x 28-30M?

 

Combination of ARB and FA years will lessen the AAV. Don't pay much attention to arb awards but offhand $35M AAV seems high in this scenario.

[Terminator]

He's just so damn young I'm not terribly concerned about a 10 or even 12 year extension for him as long as they AAV is around 25 mil or less. That would be through his age 33-35 seasons. Even if he's a 1.5 to 2 WAR player by the time he's 33 a deal like that won't kill us.

[glory]

He's just so damn young I'm not terribly concerned about a 10 or even 12 year extension for him as long as they AAV is around 25 mil or less. That would be through his age 33-35 seasons. Even if he's a 1.5 to 2 WAR player by the time he's 33 a deal like that won't kill us.

 

I think I'd be fine with a 11-12 year deal for Vlad, even acknowledging the weight issues and possibility for some dead money towards the end. He had a 132 wRC+ at age 23 in a down year. We all know what the ceiling is. Seems like a worthwhile gamble to take. Maybe a 11/285.5m extension would work. Once you add his 2023 arb figure it comes out to 12/300, so it's a round enough number for Vlad, and it's $25-26m AAV from 25-35, so it wouldn't be like Pujols or Cabrera where you're running him out there in his late-30's/40's. I'm guessing he would sign a deal like that. Whether the Jays would offer it, I have no idea, but that's probably what it takes to get it done.

[Terminator]

 

So the fences are coming in?

[L54]

Launching pad!

[Stangstag]

Vlad can't even must a "best shape of his life" quote this time around so you know we was fat and lazy this offseason.

 

Probably felt like he came into last season in great shape and didn’t hit like he wanted to… and the lesson he took away was don’t bother trying to stay fit

[John_Havok]

 

So the fences are coming in?

 

Well if Kiemaier, Romano and Kiermaier said it, it must be true.