Around Baseball 2022

[jaysblue]

I don’t think he leaves the stadium with the ball. We’d find out in 2028 who actually gets it, through the courts.

 

MLB needs to authenticate that ball anyways, or else it's not worth millions to an investor. So even if he escaped and left the ballpark, tough to get full value without it authenticated.

[Carlos Danger]

Leeeeeeeee Royyyyyyyyyy Jennnnkinsssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

All the nerds on this board and Abom is the only one who got it?? You guys need to up your nerd scores.

[Stangstag]

MLB needs to authenticate that ball anyways, or else it's not worth millions to an investor. So even if he escaped and left the ballpark, tough to get full value without it authenticated.

 

I think those balls have special markings though, wouldn’t be hard to authenticate afterwards

[Stangstag]

All the nerds on this board and Abom is the only one who got it?? You guys need to up your nerd scores.

 

I got it I just didn’t reply

[Carlos Danger]

I got it I just didn’t reply

 

I was picturing the guy screaming that as he prepared to jump out of the stands into the abyss..

[wilko]

I got it I just didn’t reply

 

[Spanky__99]

Goldy wins the NL MVP right? A 7 win season as a 1B and a clear better bat with a wRC+ 177, no brainer to me.

[wilko]

Goldy wins the NL MVP right? A 7 win season as a 1B and a clear better bat with a wRC+ 177, no brainer to me.

 

Him, Nolan, Manny.

[Spanky__99]

Him, Nolan, Manny.

 

That's how I see it, should be Goldy. Freeman is close behind them 3.

[jaysblue]

Goldy wins the NL MVP right? A 7 win season as a 1B and a clear better bat with a wRC+ 177, no brainer to me.

 

It looked like he was well on his way at the end of August, though wonder if his slow September reduces his chances amongst the voters and the fact he plays 1B.

 

Arenado and Machado play 3B which is what they have going for them and also both have higher WARs (7.3 and 7.4) than Goldy. In terms of counting power stats like HRs and RBI, they aren't that far behind Goldy anyways. Goldschmidt though does have a huge advantage in BA/OBP/SLG and wRC+ however. In terms of helping their team make the Postseason, well all of those three guys are in the same boat so that logic is pretty much a wash haha.

 

I think it will be a lot closer now than it was in August. If voters dismiss the poor September Goldy had, then maybe he still holds onto that flame. Otherwise, I think the 1B position versus 3B position could go against him amongst the current voters. Regardless, if I was voting, I probably would still rank Goldy as my No. 1 since he was far superior offensively than any other player in the NL this season.

[jaysblue]

AL MVP: Aaron Judge

AL Cy Young: Justin Verlander

AL ROY: Julio Rodríguez

 

NL MVP: Paul Goldschmidt

NL Cy Young: Sandy Alcantara

NL ROY: tough call between Spencer Strider and Michael Harris II (hope they can co-share it)

[jaysblue]

NL Rookie of the Year should be a bigger discussion: Spencer Strider or Michael Harris II?

 

I would lean towards Strider but Harris II being an everyday player and he stepped up big with Acuna pretty much sucking this season.

[Jimcanuck]

AL MVP: Aaron Judge

AL Cy Young: Justin Verlander

AL ROY: Julio Rodríguez

 

NL MVP: Paul Goldschmidt

NL Cy Young: Sandy Alcantara

NL ROY: tough call between Spencer Strider and Michael Harris II (hope they can co-share it)

 

Rodon over Alcantara for me

 

Tough call but I go with Strider

[jaysblue]

Rodon over Alcantara for me

 

Tough call but I go with Strider

 

Yeah Rodon or Nola with higher WAR and K rates. The one downside though is only 178 innings with Rodon vs. Alcantara with close to 230. I think the voters/writers will lean towards him for that reason. Though yeah I agree, Rodon probably was the best pitcher not just in the NL, though across all of baseball.

 

Nola's W-L record will hurt him and his ERA above 3, though he is very deserving as well.

[Laika]

NL MVP is a f***ing four way nail biter

 

Freeman, Goldy, Machado, and Arenado all have a case.

 

I think Freeman wins it. 159 games played, best team in baseball, MLB batting title. For the nerds, highest xwOBA of the four. Goldy and Arenado might split some first place votes. Machado doesn't have a lead in any offensive stat and the Padres finished 22 games back of the Dodgers.

 

 

I agree with jb, Sandy Alcantara's ERA and IP win the NL Cy for him and it won't be that close.

[Spanky__99]

NL MVP is a f***ing four way nail biter

 

Freeman, Goldy, Machado, and Arenado all have a case.

 

I think Freeman wins it. 159 games played, best team in baseball, MLB batting title. For the nerds, highest xwOBA of the four. Goldy and Arenado might split some first place votes. Machado doesn't have a lead in any offensive stat and the Padres finished 22 games back of the Dodgers.

 

 

I agree with jb, Sandy Alcantara's ERA and IP win the NL Cy for him and it won't be that close.

 

He didn't win the batting title. It should be Goldy's, yer dumn.

[Laika]

oh f*** Jeff McNeil he's a little twerp

[John_Havok]

He didn't win the batting title. It should be Goldy's, yer dumn.

 

Jeff McNeil - 6 WAR player with 9 HRs. The modern day Tony Gwynn.

[Laika]

He didn't win the batting title. It should be Goldy's, yer dumn.

 

WAR is not relevant when it's 7.0 vs 7.1

 

Freeman xwOBA .404 vs Goldschmidt xwOBA .367 is pretty big gap

 

Oldschool voters WILL care about batting average and the standings

[Spanky__99]

WAR is not relevant when it's 7.0 vs 7.1

 

Freeman xwOBA .404 vs Goldschmidt xwOBA .367 is pretty big gap

 

Oldschool voters WILL care about batting average and the standings

 

f*** the voters too, then.

[John_Havok]

I think instead of speculating on who will win these races, we should sepculate on which completey undeserving players get some votes from idiot writers.

 

Like last year for example in the AL, MIke Zunino, Austin Meadows, Eovaldi, Mitch Haniger, Teoscar.... like wtf..

[The Cats Ass]

I think instead of speculating on who will win these races, we should sepculate on which completey undeserving players get some votes from idiot writers.

 

Like last year for example in the AL, MIke Zunino, Austin Meadows, Eovaldi, Mitch Haniger, Teoscar.... like wtf..

 

This year... Randy Arozarena, Cal Quantrill, Jon Berti, Carlos Carrasco

[jaysblue]

WAR is not relevant when it's 7.0 vs 7.1

 

Freeman xwOBA .404 vs Goldschmidt xwOBA .367 is pretty big gap

 

Oldschool voters WILL care about batting average and the standings

 

Will most of the voters even know about xwOBA? haha

 

Freeman definitely has the standings, BA and even SBs (13) that work in his favor. I do think he falls shorts on HR's with only 21 and with RBI however when matching him up with Goldy, something the old school voters will take into account.

 

LA is surrounded by superstars as it is. So while their success in the standings can benefit his case, did St. Louis or even San Diego really have anyone else around Goldy/Arenado and Machado? Some voters will definitely say, if you took one of Arenado or Goldy out of the STL lineup or Machado out of the Padres lineup, their teams don't make or struggle to make the Postseason.

 

I do agree with you how Goldy/Arenado could split their votes. Should be a tight race.

[jaysblue]

I think instead of speculating on who will win these races, we should sepculate on which completey undeserving players get some votes from idiot writers.

 

Like last year for example in the AL, MIke Zunino, Austin Meadows, Eovaldi, Mitch Haniger, Teoscar.... like wtf..

 

Jeffrey Springs, Rowdy Tellez, Josh Naylor, Willy Adames, Kyle Schwarber.

 

I bet someone will vote for Albert Pujols as well for MVP haha. He should win Comeback Player of the Year though.

[Stangstag]

Jeffrey Springs, Rowdy Tellez, Josh Naylor, Willy Adames, Kyle Schwarber.

 

I bet someone will vote for Albert Pujols as well for MVP haha. He should win Comeback Player of the Year though.

 

Luis Castillo for AL cy young

[Laika]

Will most of the voters even know about xwOBA? haha

 

Freeman definitely has the standings, BA and even SBs (13) that work in his favor. I do think he falls shorts on HR's with only 21 and with RBI however when matching him up with Goldy, something the old school voters will take into account.

 

LA is surrounded by superstars as it is. So while their success in the standings can benefit his case, did St. Louis or even San Diego really have anyone else around Goldy/Arenado and Machado? Some voters will definitely say, if you took one of Arenado or Goldy out of the STL lineup or Machado out of the Padres lineup, their teams don't make or struggle to make the Postseason.

 

I do agree with you how Goldy/Arenado could split their votes. Should be a tight race.

 

It will matter to the nerd voters. There are more of them than ever. They will care more about that than they will about the gap in HR or RBI

[jaysblue]

Luis Castillo for AL cy young

 

Didn't Manny Ramirez and Yoenis Cespedes get MVP votes those seasons when they got traded at the July 31st deadline? I remember some people in baseball saying Cespedes deserved the 2015 NL MVP after what he did with the Mets in just two months haha.

 

It would suck if someone having a really good season like Justin Verlander or Aaron Judge were traded to the NL and continued to put up monster numbers. The only player/pitcher I could think of who got screwed from an award by being traded in July and switching leagues was CC Sabathia. Definitely would have been a Cy Young winner with those numbers if he stayed in one league. Though his numbers with the Brewers were on a different level.

[jaysblue]

It will matter to the nerd voters. There are more of them than ever. They will care more about that than they will about the gap in HR or RBI

 

That's good to know. It's a shame when some players don't get the recognition they deserve because of falling short in those categories like RBI and pitcher W-L record etc.

[connorp]

That's good to know. It's a shame when some players don't get the recognition they deserve because of falling short in those categories like RBI and pitcher W-L record etc.

 

HR deserve sexy points. I think if you have at least a toss up between Pedroia and a guy with pop, you give the nod to pop

[jaysblue]

HR deserve sexy points. I think if you have at least a toss up between Pedroia and a guy with pop, you give the nod to pop

 

I still give Goldy the nod over Freeman in the NL MVP for sure. 35 vs. 21 HR's and the fact that Goldy playing at an MVP type level was more helpful to the Cards Postseason chances than Freeman to the Dodgers. It's close, but I give Goldy the edge and I think voters will do the same.