Bluejays to Acquire Nats Brad Hand

[Deadpool]

Lukewarm would be an understatement. Not a bad move or a good move. Just a move.

 

More bad than good IMO. If the Nats were eating the full contract then I'd probably consider it neutral.

[Signal]

Probably expecting others back next year so a long term RP might not be worth paying for

 

I agree it is not the year to trade top prospects. This last move is one where the Jays traded away a redundant prospect at a position of great depth for a pitcher that is a rental but one that Walker may be able to work with and get him back on track. If so, he may become another story like Ray, who decides to resign with the Jays and gets his career back on track. If the experiment does not work, well what did they lose? I like Atkins approach thus far, he is trying to add pieces that will contribute beyond this year and this last trade is more of getting a much needed arm for the bullpen while giving Walker some time to work with him to see if he can get him back on track.

[bronson44]

So does that mean we have to pay the 6.5 deferred plus the prorated amount on what's left? 8M-ish total?

[BlueRocky]

Hand will be throwing to Reese McGuire, Tabby will have a field day.

[connorp]

Jays love dumpster diving. They’ll prob do some more of it and have some hits and misses as normal.

[BlueRocky]

Give me this over Dolis

[Eat My Shatkins]

Don't want to see them give up prospects for f***ing rentals.

 

Surprised they did this actually.

[connorp]

Escobar would’ve been nice for RA. Last time I’ll whine about it:)

[Dick_Pole]

I can't see anyone having a strong opinion over this at least until he starts pitching. First s***** outing = the trade sucks. Nothing but good outings = the trade was worth it. To this point, it doesn't register as anything but neutral to me. Riley Adams is not a prospect and Hand's salary doesn't remotely alter the team's ability to spend in the future. In a way you could see this as good news. There is no way the FO would do this deal if they were anywhere near a budget constraint right now.

[Spanky99]

Meh... we're a bit better in the pen, I guess.

[Buster]

Shatkins can't sell for team culture and optical reasons, so they're going to do these types of deals pretending to upgrade and make moves.

[Brownie19]

Those sliders look great. Now show me some of his slider post Spider Tack please.

[G-Snarls]

Don't want to see them give up prospects for f***ing rentals.

 

Surprised they did this actually.

 

Me too

 

Not thrilled about this one

[G-Snarls]

Meh... we're a bit better in the pen, I guess.

 

If he replaces Thornton it's an improvement

 

But I was hoping for more

 

I guess more would have cost more than Adams

[max silver]

Me too

 

Not thrilled about this one

This reminds me of the Villar trade last year where they sent out an actual prospect for a player having a bad season by his standards.

[Jays24]

We could have had Hand last year when he was placed on waivers and then again in free agency. Instead we choose to get him when he isn't pitching well while we're practically out of the division race and give up Adams in the process for 2 months of his services? This looks very stupid man.

[max silver]

We could have had Hand last year when he was placed on waivers and then again in free agency but we choose to get him when he isn't pitching well for 2 months when being out of the division race? Oh and while giving up Adams too? This looks very stupid man.

 

The club also could have obtained Villar for free on waivers the year before as well. Seems like history has repeated itself, we just have to hope Hand isn't terrible like Villar was post trade last season.

[Ryu In My House]

If this is it, all he really does is guarantee us a slightly worse draft pick. Although Hand has been s***** since the sticky stuff crackdown. Maybe we get a better draft pick - dunno.

[saskjayfan]

We could have had Hand last year when he was placed on waivers and then again in free agency. Instead we choose to get him when he isn't pitching well while we're practically out of the division race and give up Adams in the process for 2 months of his services? This looks very stupid man.

 

There probably isn't room for him on the 40 at the end of the season so he would have been lost for free. We have too many catchers as it is. Hand is a veteran in the pen. The pen is looking Okay right now, but you could have 3 guys get hurt in a weak. We need the depth. We're not going to rue the day we traded Riley Adams.

[G-Snarls]

[Jimcanuck]

Does not deserve its own thread.

[G-Snarls]

Does not deserve its own thread.

 

Ouch

[G-Snarls]

We ARE sure this is the whole trade yes??

[G-Snarls]

Meanwhile the White Sox get Cy Tepera who we could have just kept around....

[Ray]

Escobar would’ve been nice for RA. Last time I’ll whine about it:)

 

Shatkins just setting the stage for a Jose Ramirez trade

 

Biggio, Groshans, & Kloffenstein should be a good starting point.

[Terminator]

Riley Adams sucks and we don’t need 5 Catchers on the 40 man anyway. Hand hasn’t been great but he’s still better than 4 of our current relievers and has some upside. The only crappy thing is we aren’t getting any salary relief at all but who cares we are a big market team. It’s a solid trade.

[Sorrow]

I still think we're going to trade for Scherzer and Ramirez and it's going to be a Christmas in July miracle. Otherwise gloom exists for August my friends.

[BlueRocky]

I still think we're going to trade for Scherzer and Ramirez and it's going to be a Christmas in July miracle. Otherwise gloom exists for August my friends.

 

 

How about Berrios?

[Spanky99]

 

How about Berrios?

 

Yes, please!

[BlueRocky]

If he replaces Thornton it's an improvement

 

I mean.. that’s not a very high bar to clear.

Kirby Snead is probably better than Trent at this point.