Ray Verified Member Posted July 21, 2021 Posted July 21, 2021 Pirates really killed this draft. First 4 picks were essentially ranked as 1st-round calibre talents 1. Henry Davis ($6.5M signing bonus) 2. Anthony Solometo ($2.8M signing bonus) 3. Lonnie White Jr. (TBD signing bonus) 4. Bubba Chandler ($3M signing bonus) Really maximized that pool bonus well. Cherington and Sander have done an excellent job restocking that farm with the Taillon, Bell, Marte, and Musgrove trades too in essentially a year. Might be the #1 system soon enough.
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted July 21, 2021 Posted July 21, 2021 Yeah, he had demons. Really sad. Very sad, his dad is still good friends with my buddies from their days together in the Jays org and Jake trained at their academy. He had lots of mental health issues. Saddens me whenever he's brought up.
max silver Old-Timey Member Posted July 21, 2021 Posted July 21, 2021 This is the second time they have drafted Damiano Palmegiani so Im pretty sure he will be signed. Damiano Palmegiani sounds like the name of a cheese to me.
z3r0s Old-Timey Member Posted July 21, 2021 Posted July 21, 2021 Damiano Palmegiani sounds like the name of a cheese to me. does he pair well with Chad Dallas?
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted July 21, 2021 Posted July 21, 2021 Pirates really killed this draft. First 4 picks were essentially ranked as 1st-round calibre talents 1. Henry Davis ($6.5M signing bonus) 2. Anthony Solometo ($2.8M signing bonus) 3. Lonnie White Jr. (TBD signing bonus) 4. Bubba Chandler ($3M signing bonus) Really maximized that pool bonus well. Cherington and Sander have done an excellent job restocking that farm with the Taillon, Bell, Marte, and Musgrove trades too in essentially a year. Might be the #1 system soon enough. This is great. I think it's good for Baseball for Pittsburgh to be strong again.
Krylian Old-Timey Member Posted July 21, 2021 Posted July 21, 2021 So our final above slot guy will go for $160,000 I guess.
TwistedLogic Old-Timey Member Posted July 21, 2021 Author Posted July 21, 2021 So our final above slot guy will go for $160,000 I guess. Or like 140 for two of them. I'm sure the front office had a decent idea of if they could get these guys within their budget but I'll still be surprised when Bucknam and Palmegiani sign for those amounts. Like, I'm expecting and hoping for it to happen but I also know that the amount the Jays can pay these guys is like the bare minimum they could get in a future draft even if they decided to go to school. The risk here is super low, relatively, so the only real reasons I can see them signing for is that they're either super passionate for baseball and want to get their pro careers started or they feel they aren't good enough to maintain their stock or improve on it over the course of another year or two.
devo Verified Member Posted July 28, 2021 Posted July 28, 2021 So $127,995 is the max remaining for Bucknam. Take it or leave it kid.
Krylian Old-Timey Member Posted July 28, 2021 Posted July 28, 2021 Palmegiani is signed! I was pretty close with my $160k prediction
Krylian Old-Timey Member Posted July 28, 2021 Posted July 28, 2021 So $127,995 is the max remaining for Bucknam. Take it or leave it kid. Don't forget about that extra $2500 that someone posted about. $130,495. And tell him he should be thankful we're throwing in that $2500.
metafour Verified Member Posted July 29, 2021 Posted July 29, 2021 It looks like we got 17th round pick LHP Cooper Benson signed as well for $125,000 according to the MLB Draft Tracker. He was a draft-eligible Sophomore (only eligible because the draft got pushed to July this year) who blew his elbow out after one start I believe. He should be one to watch as I believe he could have gone much higher had he not been injured.
Benito Verified Member Posted August 1, 2021 Posted August 1, 2021 Deadline is today at 5. Guess Bucknam not signing? Also, looks like Mets are not going to sign Rocker. Wow.
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted August 1, 2021 Posted August 1, 2021 Deadline is today at 5. Guess Bucknam not signing? Also, looks like Mets are not going to sign Rocker. Wow. I wouldn't either if they see s*** in his elbow. They'll pick 11th next year.
TwistedLogic Old-Timey Member Posted August 2, 2021 Author Posted August 2, 2021 I'm honestly surprised they let Rocker go. I feel with a talent of that caliber, the chance you can rehab/fix whatever you found in his arm is still higher than a standard #11 pick in most years.
connorp Old-Timey Member Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 I'm honestly surprised they let Rocker go. I feel with a talent of that caliber, the chance you can rehab/fix whatever you found in his arm is still higher than a standard #11 pick in most years. I feel like these stories usually end up where the guy needs TJ like 2 months later. If they’re going to just waste a development year+, may as well try again in a year. Not like Rocker is generational. He obviously slipped on draft day without even the elbow thing known
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 I feel like these stories usually end up where the guy needs TJ like 2 months later. If they’re going to just waste a development year+, may as well try again in a year. Not like Rocker is generational. He obviously slipped on draft day without even the elbow thing known Still a top 10 pick man, they must be frustrated as hell, yet I don't blame them.
M.E. Verified Member Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 I feel like these stories usually end up where the guy needs TJ like 2 months later. If they’re going to just waste a development year+, may as well try again in a year. Not like Rocker is generational. He obviously slipped on draft day without even the elbow thing known So what happens now? Can anyone sign him? I don’t know if he has college eligibility but if he does can he go back?
Laika Community Moderator Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 So what happens now? Can anyone sign him? I don’t know if he has college eligibility but if he does can he go back? He can go back to Vanderbilt for a year. Or he can leave college and play independent / unaffiliated baseball. But either way he's subject to the 2022 draft, I think.
connorp Old-Timey Member Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 Still a top 10 pick man, they must be frustrated as hell, yet I don't blame them. Yeah sure they were disappointed but yeah, you take a college pitcher that you’re thinking is a fast track player for your “win now” team… if he has TJ the next few months, 2022 is out the window, 2023 is a lost year really too.
metafour Verified Member Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 Apparently he's not planning on going back to Vanderbilt. This is worse for him than it is for the Mets. Remember that he turned down 1st round money out of HS and now he's left unsigned again. It sucks that it worked out this way for him, but he's slipping into dangerous territory.
connorp Old-Timey Member Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 Remember the Brady Aiken saga? Elbow was flagged, didn’t sign. Goes to IMG as post grad (high school), blows out his elbow in the first game.
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 He can work out on his own, go to independent league, go back to school, and be eligible for 2022 draft. Or he could take the Carter Stewart route and go to Japan or Korea, but would not become a free agent eligible to sign with any MLB team for 6 years.
glory Old-Timey Member Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 https://www.tennessean.com/story/sports/college/vanderbilt/2019/02/13/kumar-rocker-draft-mlb-vanderbilt-baseball/2823061002/ Could have been a millionaire out of HS and possibly reached the Majors already, but listened to his parents (mom) and went to school instead. His arm would have still blown out, but at least he could have been paid first. Rocker's career goal was to reach MLB. He could have done that out of HS. Now he has an education that he may or may not have even cared about and it cost him 3-4 years of his pro career and millions of dollars in the process. Hitters choosing to go to college is more logical since the level of injury risk is much less, but for a pitcher to do it, especially when they could have conceivably gotten 1st round money out of HS, is a massive risk.
Virgil_Hiltz Verified Member Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 https://www.tennessean.com/story/sports/college/vanderbilt/2019/02/13/kumar-rocker-draft-mlb-vanderbilt-baseball/2823061002/ Could have been a millionaire out of HS and possibly reached the Majors already, but listened to his parents (mom) and went to school instead. His arm would have still blown out, but at least he could have been paid first. Rocker's career goal was to reach MLB. He could have done that out of HS. Now he has an education that he may or may not have even cared about and it cost him 3-4 years of his pro career and millions of dollars in the process. Hitters choosing to go to college is more logical since the level of injury risk is much less, but for a pitcher to do it, especially when they could have conceivably gotten 1st round money out of HS, is a massive risk. and some NCAA coaches arent concern over a pitchers health as long as they rack up the W's with 130 pitches thrown!
TwistedLogic Old-Timey Member Posted August 2, 2021 Author Posted August 2, 2021 Yeah sure they were disappointed but yeah, you take a college pitcher that you’re thinking is a fast track player for your “win now” team… if he has TJ the next few months, 2022 is out the window, 2023 is a lost year really too. Even with TJS, he'd probably be faster to the league than whoever they pick #11 next year. And Rocker's going to have literally no leverage next year and would have benefited from rehabbing in a world-class major league facility. This move is puzzling and hurts both parties. It just sounds like the Mets found something in the physical, lowballed him, and Rocker's camp refused to take the pay cut out of spite/anger. But whatever the Mets' lowball offer was, it was probably still better than what he'll make next time without all the added risk.
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