General Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2021)

[Spanky99]

Body looks a lot like Tijuan Walker

 

Nice play, don't comp TW.

[TwistedLogic]

This guy is built like a freaking tank!

 

Kid's a bad ass. Already love him. Hope he turns out.

[Ex Player]

Body looks a lot like Tijuan Walker

He's actually bigger than TW.

I dont know how accurate BR is, but they have Manoah listed at 6'6" 260 lbs and Walker at 6'4" 235 lbs

 

https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=manoah000ale

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/w/walketa01.shtml

 

Going by that video I dont think they're that far off

[Deadpool]

He's actually bigger than TW.

I dont know how accurate BR is, but they have Manoah listed at 6'6" 260 lbs and Walker at 6'4" 235 lbs

 

https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=manoah000ale

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/w/walketa01.shtml

 

Going by that video I dont think they're that far off

 

Manoah actually looks like he's slimmed down since he was drafted. But he's a mountain of a man.

[Orgfiller]

Manoah actually looks like he's slimmed down since he was drafted. But he's a mountain of a man.

 

Does he? If he's a true 6'6 then I'd have no issue believing he's still 260. He's a large lad and it's not even like he's some bumbling fool, dude looks pretty athletic moving off the mound.

[Deadpool]

Does he? If he's a true 6'6 then I'd have no issue believing he's still 260. He's a large lad and it's not even like he's some bumbling fool, dude looks pretty athletic moving off the mound.

 

This is him pitching for Vancouver...

[wilko]

This is him pitching for Vancouver...

 

Boomer!

[Orgfiller]

This is him pitching for Vancouver...

 

Assuming his body has changed, which I guess from that ST angle it looks like it to some extent - jersey is far baggier though and you can still spot a bit of a gut - then this picture above isn't of a 260 lbs man.

[Jimcanuck]

Assuming his body has changed, which I guess from that ST angle it looks like it to some extent - jersey is far baggier though and you can still spot a bit of a gut - then this picture above isn't of a 260 lbs man.

 

At 6"6" that's 300 lbs easy

 

Wonder if this increased fitness is another product of the Jays player development system

[Orgfiller]

At 6"6" that's 300 lbs easy

 

Wonder if this increased fitness is another product of the Jays player development system

 

Exactly. 6'6 is huge and Manoah is built like a tank. He would look skinny at 230-240.

 

It could be, maybe the team gave some recommendations for the players/prospects in the offseason in terms of workouts, but a lot of it is on the players. Many guys now in the offseason will go to private facilities or just generally do workouts on their own so I'd attribute most of this success to Manoah's work ethic.

[Jimcanuck]

Exactly. 6'6 is huge and Manoah is built like a tank. He would look skinny at 230-240.

 

It could be, maybe the team gave some recommendations for the players/prospects in the offseason in terms of workouts, but a lot of it is on the players. Many guys now in the offseason will go to private facilities or just generally do workouts on their own so I'd attribute most of this success to Manoah's work ethic.

 

For sure, but I betcha $500 there were a series of internal meetings after Vladdy showed up with a lot of new fat last summer. Changes were made.

[Brownie19]

Exactly. 6'6 is huge and Manoah is built like a tank. He would look skinny at 230-240.

 

It could be, maybe the team gave some recommendations for the players/prospects in the offseason in terms of workouts, but a lot of it is on the players. Many guys now in the offseason will go to private facilities or just generally do workouts on their own so I'd attribute most of this success to Manoah's work ethic.

 

Blue Jays FO (probably) - "OK, so we thought the next topic went without saying, but evidently not, so we're going to say it. You're f***ing professional athletes, the expectation is you keep yourself in prime shape to improve and perform. Nobody better walk into our new training facility in March with an extra 40 lbs around their waist - is that f***ing clear?"

[Grant77]

Exactly. 6'6 is huge and Manoah is built like a tank. He would look skinny at 230-240.

 

It could be, maybe the team gave some recommendations for the players/prospects in the offseason in terms of workouts, but a lot of it is on the players. Many guys now in the offseason will go to private facilities or just generally do workouts on their own so I'd attribute most of this success to Manoah's work ethic.

 

I am 6'6 230 and noticeably smaller than him. He's a very big man.

[Ray]

Gurriel also looking in great shape:

DLAB (@dlabteam) • Instagram photo

WWW.INSTAGRAM.COM

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119 likes, 2 comments - dlabteam on March 4, 2021: "Comenzamos desde 0️⃣ y estamos aquí 💪. Más que listos y orgullosos con nuestro campeón 🍍 @yunitogurriel 🍍. A meterle a la liga @mlb puro #PiñaPower 👊 con los @bluejays este año. Sin hablar mucho, los números lo dicen todo y las acciones demuestran el doble, al 💯 #TuSabes 🧪 #WeHaveTheFormula 👨‍🔬 #DLabTeam 🏆 #Miami".

 

Did our entire team just decide to get in much better shape this offseason? Lol.

[The Cats Ass]

What's the chance we see Manoah this year?

 

He killed it after being drafted in A-. Was a college pick. Probably would have pitched last year in A and A+. Should start this year in AA.

 

https://www.sportsnet.ca/mlb/article/top-blue-jays-prospect-alek-manoah-made-sure-2020-wasnt-lost-year/

 

There's an article on him, little dated though. He touches on his conditioning, and developing his change-up last season at the alternate site.

[Jimcanuck]

Gurriel also looking in great shape:

DLAB (@dlabteam) • Instagram photo

WWW.INSTAGRAM.COM

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119 likes, 2 comments - dlabteam on March 4, 2021: "Comenzamos desde 0️⃣ y estamos aquí 💪. Más que listos y orgullosos con nuestro campeón 🍍 @yunitogurriel 🍍. A meterle a la liga @mlb puro #PiñaPower 👊 con los @bluejays este año. Sin hablar mucho, los números lo dicen todo y las acciones demuestran el doble, al 💯 #TuSabes 🧪 #WeHaveTheFormula 👨‍🔬 #DLabTeam 🏆 #Miami".

 

Did our entire team just decide to get in much better shape this offseason? Lol.

 

The eyeball test says yes.

[Laika]

What's the chance we see Manoah this year?

 

He killed it after being drafted in A-. Was a college pick. Probably would have pitched last year in A and A+. Should start this year in AA.

 

20% chance he's in the BP in the playoffs?

 

I think he still has some real development to do as far as pitch #3 is concerned. That might keep him down all season.

 

He could probably be a good reliever right now but that's not the goal.

[Jimcanuck]

What's the chance we see Manoah this year?

 

He killed it after being drafted in A-. Was a college pick. Probably would have pitched last year in A and A+. Should start this year in AA.

 

Very possible as it is doubtful any Jays pitcher exceeds 150 IP.

 

On that note, is anyone else expecting significantly greater use of an opener this season?

[G-Snarls]

Very possible as it is doubtful any Jays pitcher exceeds 150 IP.

 

On that note, is anyone else expecting significantly greater use of an opener this season?

 

Definitely

 

I think Charlie believes in it

 

And it might suit this pitching staff very well

[The Cats Ass]

20% chance he's in the BP in the playoffs?

 

I think he still has some real development to do as far as pitch #3 is concerned. That might keep him down all season.

 

He could probably be a good reliever right now but that's not the goal.

 

Updated my post with an article that touched on him developing that 3rd pitch(change-up) to go along with his fastball and slider. Sounds like it was his top priority at the alt-site.

[Olerud363]

Very possible as it is doubtful any Jays pitcher exceeds 150 IP.

 

On that note, is anyone else expecting significantly greater use of an opener this season?

 

If keeping "starters" at 150 it makes sense to use the opener a lot for another reason, It would let starters "vulture" wins even if they don't go 5. Use an opener a lot, then you can have good "starters" still going 15-7 with 140 innings or something.

 

I guess it would suck to have an opener give up 4 runs on your day, but probably it would even out, sometimes your team would score 4 and you come in, in the second leading 4-0.

[TheHurl]

Anyone else wish to discuss BJMB's cancel culture? I apologize to those that kept a baseball spin on the topic. Call this predictive deletion...the topic was heading in a repeated direction with the usual suspects leading the way.

[Laika]

Team just claimed Joel Payamps again and DFA'd Waguespack.

 

Very weird. Why did they DFA Payamps like two weeks ago and keep Waguespack then?

 

Nov. 25 — Sox claim Payamps from D-backs

Feb. 10 — Jays claim Payamps from Sox

Feb. 22 — Sox claim Payamps from Jays

Mar. 6 — Jays claim Payamps from Sox

[Jays24]

Team just claimed Joel Payamps again and DFA'd Waguespack.

 

Very weird. Why did they DFA Payamps like two weeks ago and keep Waguespack then?

 

Guessing they saw him pitch this Spring and said screw this guy, he sucks.

[Jays24]

[Jays24]

Team just claimed Joel Payamps again and DFA'd Waguespack.

 

Very weird. Why did they DFA Payamps like two weeks ago and keep Waguespack then?

 

Nov. 25 — Sox claim Payamps from D-backs

Feb. 10 — Jays claim Payamps from Sox

Feb. 22 — Sox claim Payamps from Jays

Mar. 6 — Jays claim Payamps from Sox

 

At least give Arden credit for the tweet before you copy and paste his info

[Slade]

I guess we like Joel Payamps? They must see something in him.

[Deadpool]

I guess we like Joel Payamps? They must see something in him.

 

To be fair, they only have to like him a little bit more than they like Waguespack...

[Laika]

At least give Arden credit for the tweet before you copy and paste his info

 

Eat s***

[Jays24]

Eat s***

 

Haha just screwing with you. I was about to do the same thing but came across the entire tweet instead lol.