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[Terminator]

You need to get help if you truly feel this way. Just a disgusting attitude to have.

 

What if she asked him to kill her? Would that be OK since she asked? Some things are just wrong no matter what. The fact that he gets off on inflicting serious pain on other people is disgusting, and you sticking up for him is sad. How are you not banned for this take?

 

Really disturbed by some of the posts I am reading here.

 

Laika is thinking of this in legal terms and you're getting all emotional over it.

 

I also notice how you think it's gross when people get off on inflicting pain during sex (so do I) but you make no mention of if you think it's gross when people get off on receiving pain during sex. I also think that's gross. I don't think either person is guilty of a crime though.

[Laika]

But where is that line? Punching someone in the genitalia and in the face causing visible damage definitely crosses that line in my opinion.

 

If she's into getting punched in the face that's messed up, and doesn't make it OK for someone to do it to her.

 

The Supreme Court of Canada would say something like:

 

"that the victim consented to the act is no defense for an accused WHEN the result of the act is serious bodily harm and when the accused intended to cause serious bodily harm"

 

Stuff like this can come down to disputes about definitions. When does trivial bodily harm become serious bodily harm? It's a question of fact and judges may even disagree.

[Brownie19]

There's weird, and then there's assault. This wasn't just a weird fetish. There is something wrong with Trevor Bauer if he enjoys doing this.

 

You continue to miss the reality that she may also really get off on this s*** too. For all we know, she was initiated the conversation and asked for it.

 

Look - I'm not into it at all and I find it hard to fathom that people would enjoy that too, but who am I to judge. You seem really upset at these comments, simply because you can't fathom that some people do enjoy it. That isn't right either man.

 

Unfortunately, there's a line in this situation. Was it crossed? was it not? None of us know that and it's not up to us to decide where that line should be drawn. Experienced BDSM partners always have safe words and such to ensure there's way to stop it immediately if someone creeps past the line. The other reality in this is that people's lines change. What sounds good and hot in their minds/fantasizes may change when they are in the heat of the moment (when suddenly the line needs to change because f*** this seemed better in my fantasizes).

[5minutesforframing]

Bauer was a garbage dude before all of this and this whole ordeal has shown he's dumb as f*** as well.

[Stottlemyres_Bloody_Chin]

You continue to miss the reality that she may also really get off on this s*** too. For all we know, she was initiated the conversation and asked for it...You seem really upset at these comments, simply because you can't fathom that some people do enjoy it. That isn't right either man.

 

 

So now I'm a bad guy because I think beating women is disgusting even if she asked for it?

 

This forum is insane at times. Some really nice posters here for the most part, but about 1/4 of this board has moral cancer.

 

There's some good discussion here, unfortunately there is some stuff from certain posters that I can't stomach.

 

This place isn't for me. Enjoy your message board. Go Blue Jays! (I hope we can at least agree on that)

[Olerud363]

The Supreme Court of Canada would say something like:

 

"that the victim consented to the act is no defense for an accused WHEN the result of the act is serious bodily harm and when the accused intended to cause serious bodily harm"

 

Stuff like this can come down to disputes about definitions. When does trivial bodily harm become serious bodily harm? It's a question of fact and judges may even disagree.

 

If she literally had her skull fractured then that is serious bodily harm and Bauer should be done.

 

If she got her ass slapped and it turned red that is not.

 

Did she have her skull fractured? I can't figure out if that's true or not.

[Jimcanuck]

I don't think it's a question of the gravity of the actions (unless the skull fracture is true), but whether Bauer went beyond what was agreed or consented to.

[Krylian]

I don't think it's a question of the gravity of the actions (unless the skull fracture is true), but whether Bauer went beyond what was agreed or consented to.

 

And how will that ever get determined, unless something was recorded/documented.

[Jimcanuck]

And how will that ever get determined, unless something was recorded/documented.

 

It's a he said/she said obviously. But the investigators will interview the woman's other partners to determine her limits / try to corroborate. And of course, if another woman comes forward alleging nonconsensual acts by Bauer (ie. assault) that will change things considerably.

 

These things are always fraught. Just look at the whole America's Dad shitshow.

[connorp]

The line is where THEY set it.

 

Yep. They established a safe word. That’s the line

[connorp]

I’m not into the stuff at all but I guess I can get roughing up the face, smacking and all. Punching even. Buy what’s up with punching her in the vagina, that comes from a dark place lol

[TBJ12]

You must be a sick f*** to believe any of this is OK. BDSM is NOT f***ing unconscious rape ffs.

[Jimcanuck]

I’m not into the stuff at all but I guess I can get roughing up the face, smacking and all. Punching even. Buy what’s up with punching her in the vagina, that comes from a dark place lol

 

i don't see any of it. it's sick.

[TBJ12]

I bet you are very wrong! Edited July 2, 2021 by TBJ12

[Buster]

"Her body, her choice"... every pro-choice advocate out there

 

"don't judge people for their preferences in the bedroom"... every corporation during pride month

 

"permanent scarring is fine if someone asks for it"....every tattoo artist

 

 

 

Either you think that people should have significant leeway when it comes to matters of autonomy over their own body....or you do not.

Edited July 2, 2021 by Buster

[G-Snarls]

 

[TBJ12]

That is not necessarily true. Everyone has different pain thresholds and preferences. Also some people legitimately get off on being hurt.

 

How many dudes are chocking women unconscious and punching them? Neither is f***ing normal. Some hair pulling and ass spanking is normal. Punching an unconscious woman in the ass, face or pussy certainly isn’t

[Jimcanuck]

"This investigation is bigger than we thought. So we have to look a few more places. We want to try to uncover as much stuff as we can.''

 

Other complainants who wish to remain anonymous, possibly.

[Laika]

"This investigation is bigger than we thought. So we have to look a few more places. We want to try to uncover as much stuff as we can.''

 

Other complainants who wish to remain anonymous, possibly.

 

Or just additional lines of inquiry specific to these allegations

 

Or just excuse making by the department who are now being accused of working slowly

[Jimcanuck]

Or just additional lines of inquiry specific to these allegations

 

Or just excuse making by the department who are now being accused of working slowly

 

I think the accuse is that Bauer is being treated differently then John Doe. Mr. Doe would have been charged already.

[Abomination]

Or just additional lines of inquiry specific to these allegations

 

Or just excuse making by the department who are now being accused of working slowly

 

Maybe it's exposed some kind of sex ring involved in much worse than what Bauer did. It would better explain how the relationship started in the first place, especially on a first date.

[BTS]

Pablo Lopez just got tossed for hitting Acuna, the first hitter of the game for Atlanta.

[Jimcanuck]

Pablo Lopez just got tossed for hitting Acuna, the first hitter of the game for Atlanta.

 

That is f***ed up

[Abomination]

Pablo Lopez just got tossed for hitting Acuna, the first hitter of the game for Atlanta.

 

By the 2nd base umpire too. There must be more to it.

[Brownie19]

By the 2nd base umpire too. There must be more to it.

 

Maybe the catcher threw down the middle finger sign (which the 2nd base ump saw)? That would actually be pretty funny.

[connorp]

I hadnt even noticed JBJ was rocking a .529 OPS coming into tonight lol

Raise your hand if you wanted him. There were plenty

[Brownie19]

So now I'm a bad guy because I think beating women is disgusting even if she asked for it?

 

This forum is insane at times. Some really nice posters here for the most part, but about 1/4 of this board has moral cancer.

 

There's some good discussion here, unfortunately there is some stuff from certain posters that I can't stomach.

 

This place isn't for me. Enjoy your message board. Go Blue Jays! (I hope we can at least agree on that)

 

No - I'm just pointing out that you're calling out posters and getting upset simply because this type of fetish isn't something you seem to comprehend or approve of. You can believe it's disgusting all you want, but the reality is there are lots of people out there who LOVE pain. There are guys who pay women to tie them up, whip them, kick them in the balls, etc. Cock and ball torture is literally it's own fetish! There are lots of women who love spankings and stretching and nipple torture and hair pulling and being slapped.

 

You seem to judge people who are simply suggesting it's OK for men and women to have these fetishes and fulfill them. I have an issue with that.

 

This situation exacerbates the need to always be open and transparent about 'the line' and to establish safe words before you play. I'm not going to sit here and take any sides. Nobody here should as we don't have all the facts. There's a great possibility Bauer crossed the line, but there's also several situations where pro athletes are setup to get their money. The courts will decide what we have in this case.

 

Enjoy another board - sorry you can't keep an open mind and acknowledge different perspectives.

Edited July 3, 2021 by Brownie19

[Spanky__99]

It's a he said/she said obviously. But the investigators will interview the woman's other partners to determine her limits / try to corroborate. And of course, if another woman comes forward alleging nonconsensual acts by Bauer (ie. assault) that will change things considerably.

 

These things are always fraught. Just look at the whole America's Dad shitshow.

 

Agreed. What's this about American Dad?

 

i don't see any of it. it's sick.

 

Yeah, none of that shyte is for me... freaky s***.

[connorp]

I think the accuse is that Bauer is being treated differently then John Doe. Mr. Doe would have been charged already.

 

Not true. Say it was a successful businessman with a good attorney. You think an ADA would want to touch the case? I doubt it.

[Spanky__99]

How many dudes are chocking women unconscious and punching them? Neither is f***ing normal. Some hair pulling and ass spanking is normal. Punching an unconscious woman in the ass, face or pussy certainly isn’t

 

Is this unconscious stuff true?