Ha Seong Kim

[glory]

 

Looks like the Jays are serious.

[Laika]

Time to get excited!!!

[max silver]

Time to get excited!!!

Or disappointed. I'm feeling shades of the Darvish posting here.

[connorp]

Or disappointed. I'm feeling shades of the Darvish posting here.

 

Bit less at stake. Not a fan of this. Didi is better option for IF at 2/16 or whatever

[Laika]

Or disappointed. I'm feeling shades of the Darvish posting here.

 

I don't even remember if there were legitimate Jays - Darvish rumours. I remember the whole Kevin Gray press conference thing

[Grant77]

If we sign Kim, that obviously takes us out of the running for guys like LeMahieu, Lindor, and Arenado. Springer becomes a much more obvious target in that case and we would certainly remain interested in more pitching.

 

Something like Kim, Springer, and Sugano or Tanaka would be incredible.

[dineke]

I don't even remember if there were legitimate Jays - Darvish rumours. I remember the whole Kevin Gray press conference thing

 

NY Post said the jays had won the bid for Darvish.

[Spanky__99]

NY Post said the jays had won the bid for Darvish.

 

From a Paul Gray... scoop, lol.

[Ray]

Flurry of tweets regarding Ha-Seong Kim. Seems like an announcement may be imminent:

 

 

 

 

[Laika]

Going to merge some Kim stuff into its own thread. Posting deadline is January 1st.

 

We know Toronto has offered him a deal, reportedly for five or more years.

 

https://www.sportsnet.ca/mlb/article/report-blue-jays-make-offer-free-agent-shortstop-ha-seong-kim/

 

Other teams rumoured in are Mets, Rangers, Padres... maybe a couple more I can't remember. Red Sox and Cardinals I think?

[Laika]

Buster says the Padres are making a "serious run" at Kim.

We've seen Preller do things in a flurry before so it would kind of make sense right now.

 

[RobinThicc]

Obviously I dont know much about him, but id be kinda disappointed if Kim is the reason the Jays are out on Lindor.

 

Kind of set myself up with the Lindor rumours lol

[Ehjays]

International Flights are coming in and out of Canada every hour, I dont like the fact that he is flying to the States. But having said that, he could be going to Dunedin.

[Laika]

He'd have to quarantine up here. They'd do the physical in the States, I'm sure.

[Bturn2210]

ya I'm sure he would be flying to Atlanta and then connecting on a flight to Tampa

[Carlos Danger]

Some of this stuff is so ridiculous.. I remember when Kawhi went to Home Depot and got a bunch of moving boxes.. The Toronto Twitter sphere thought it was a great thing.. Same when he went to the Blue Jays vs. Angles game.. Los Angeles Angels... Same when someone tracked a MLE private jet that went to San Diego, thinking the Raptors were flying him home to get stuff before he came back to TO.

 

You are better served to fly into a west coast hub from Korea, shorter flights. West coast is closer to Korea flight time and more Korean's, bigger Korean community. He could have been asking Ryu how he liked Southern California at dinner..

 

All is total speculation at this point.... If he is that good, there will be other savvy and deep pocket teams in the bidding...

[Ryu In My House]

Obviously I dont know much about him, but id be kinda disappointed if Kim is the reason the Jays are out on Lindor.

 

Kind of set myself up with the Lindor rumours lol

 

Lindor is awesome, but I want nothing to do with a rental. And I am 99% sure he won't sign an extension now. To lose 2-3 great prospects for one year of Lindor just doesn't do it for me.

[Olerud363]

Or disappointed. I'm feeling shades of the Darvish posting here.

 

Friday Dec 10th 2011 - Darvish coming to Blue Jays with 100% Certainty

Monday Dec 13th 2011 - Darvish coming to Blue Jays with 99% certainty, outside chance another team has made an offer

Tuesday Dec 14th 9:55 pm - (New Hampshire Reporter) It is official. Blue Jays submitted highest bid. Welcome Yu Darvish

Tuesday Dec 14th 10:00 pm - Darvish headed to Texas Rangers

[Ryu In My House]

Friday Dec 10th 2011 - Darvish coming to Blue Jays with 100% Certainty

Monday Dec 13th 2011 - Darvish coming to Blue Jays with 99% certainty, outside chance another team has made an offer

Tuesday Dec 14th 9:55 pm - (New Hampshire Reporter) It is official. Blue Jays submitted highest bid. Welcome Yu Darvish

Tuesday Dec 14th 10:00 pm - Darvish headed to Texas Rangers

 

Not signing Darvish back then legit depressed me for a few weeks.

[Jimcanuck]

ya I'm sure he would be flying to Atlanta and then connecting on a flight to Tampa

 

Quite possible, Atlanta is major hub airport.

[Key22]

Kim makes more sense than Lindor in that we have to give up a ton to get Lindor both in assets and in money. I think the Jays would rather just give up money and look at the trade market only if they can't upgrade with money.

 

Kim looks good on paper. Seems to have multiple tools - speedy, good defense, can steal, has some pop, in his prime.

 

Jays can always try and sign Lindor next year where all it costs us is money and not talent & money. Kim's $$$ won't stop us from landing anyone else.

 

I'm older school - I really like have terrific two way up the middle players - I want offense and defense coming from C, SS, 2B and CF. The corners any idiot can play - dime a dozen pick-ups all day at LF. RF, 3B, 1B. Just give me big bats and not atrocious defenders.

 

Springer, Realmuto, Kim and Bichette. Sign the damn cheques Rogers! Sign Walker and trade for an ace. Bing Badda Boom punch a WS ticket.

[Carlos Danger]

Friday Dec 10th 2011 - Darvish coming to Blue Jays with 100% Certainty

Monday Dec 13th 2011 - Darvish coming to Blue Jays with 99% certainty, outside chance another team has made an offer

Tuesday Dec 14th 9:55 pm - (New Hampshire Reporter) It is official. Blue Jays submitted highest bid. Welcome Yu Darvish

Tuesday Dec 14th 10:00 pm - Darvish headed to Texas Rangers

 

Bingo!!

 

I remember I was on another baseball message board.. We were all monitoring it minute by minute and I think probably the highest traffic the board had ever had that night... We all got severely Blue Balled! Come to find out years later, I don't even think AA made an offer..

[Ryu In My House]

Kim makes more sense than Lindor in that we have to give up a ton to get Lindor both in assets and in money. I think the Jays would rather just give up money and look at the trade market only if they can't upgrade with money.

 

Kim looks good on paper. Seems to have multiple tools - speedy, good defense, can steal, has some pop, in his prime.

 

Jays can always try and sign Lindor next year where all it costs us is money and not talent & money. Kim's $$$ won't stop us from landing anyone else.

 

I'm older school - I really like have terrific two way up the middle players - I want offense and defense coming from C, SS, 2B and CF. The corners any idiot can play - dime a dozen pick-ups all day at LF. RF, 3B, 1B. Just give me big bats and not atrocious defenders.

 

Springer, Realmuto, Kim and Bichette. Sign the damn cheques Rogers! Sign Walker and trade for an ace. Bing Badda Boom punch a WS ticket.

 

If we fail on Kim, I like the idea of signing Didi to a 2-year deal. He checks all of your boxes

 

I want nothing to do with Lindor this year. Next year, yes. I really want Springer, though. I am sure the Jays would have to toss in one more year than every other team.

[Olerud363]

Some of this stuff is so ridiculous.. I remember when Kawhi went to Home Depot and got a bunch of moving boxes.. The Toronto Twitter sphere thought it was a great thing.. Same when he went to the Blue Jays vs. Angles game.. Los Angeles Angels... Same when someone tracked a MLE private jet that went to San Diego, thinking the Raptors were flying him home to get stuff before he came back to TO.

 

You are better served to fly into a west coast hub from Korea, shorter flights. West coast is closer to Korea flight time and more Korean's, bigger Korean community. He could have been asking Ryu how he liked Southern California at dinner..

 

All is total speculation at this point.... If he is that good, there will be other savvy and deep pocket teams in the bidding...

 

Negotiation -

 

San Diego - you can have 35 million

(Agent asks Toronto for 40 million, Toronto Yes)

San Diego - you can have 42 millon

(Agent asks Toronto for 45 million, Toronto Yes)

San Diego - you can have 47 million

(Agent asks Toronto for 50 millon, Toronto Yes)

San Diego - we are sticking with 47 million

 

Press release: Kim to San Diego for 47 million

[glory]

[Laika]

Negotiation -

 

San Diego - you can have 35 million

(Agent asks Toronto for 40 million, Toronto Yes)

San Diego - you can have 42 millon

(Agent asks Toronto for 45 million, Toronto Yes)

San Diego - you can have 47 million

(Agent asks Toronto for 50 millon, Toronto Yes)

San Diego - we are sticking with 47 million

 

Press release: Kim to San Diego for 47 million

 

Imagine having dinner with Ryu and leaking it to the press just so you can leverage more money out of the Padres. Ruthless

[Laika]

Conflicting messages now.

 

Joel Sherman is the one reporter saying the Padres are "in the lead". He is saying the deal will have an AAV of $7-8M and be 4-5 years, but only guarantee an amount in the high $20M's, which seems silly and is non-specific enough for me to think that he is being fed BS and doesn't have a clue.

 

Other reporters (Korean) are saying Kim is coming for a physical but it's not with a specific team.

 

I don't get the fit with the Padres. Kim has only started one game at 2B in his KBO career. Are they throwing Cronenworth into the outfield? Seems odd.

[Grant77]

Daniel Kim who reported the Ryu news says that he thinks the Jays are the frontrunners and that Kim may be on a flight to Toronto.

[saskjayfan]

Daniel Kim who reported the Ryu news says that he thinks the Jays are the frontrunners and that Kim may be on a flight to Toronto.

 

They were talking about Kim on MLB radio this morning. It's typical in these situation for the player to fly in get medical done by MLB approved doctors with the information being shared with relevant teams prior to the finalizing of a deal.

 

The fact that he isn't flying to Toronto doesn't diminish the chances of Toronto signing him IMO. The reality is the dollars are probably similar amongst the teams. He will go to the team he wants. The only issue with the Jays could be their unwillingness to guarantee he won't be sent to the minors.

[G-Snarls]

If we fail on Kim, I like the idea of signing Didi to a 2-year deal. He checks all of your boxes

 

I want nothing to do with Lindor this year. Next year, yes. I really want Springer, though. I am sure the Jays would have to toss in one more year than every other team.

 

Me too

 

I'm at the point I'd rather sign Didi or Kim or Turner and trade for a starter like Darvish or Gray

 

The asking price for Lindor is obviously too high or a trade would have happened already.