General 2020 Blue Jays Discussion Thread

[Laika]

Yeah you put your 4th or 5th best hitter in the #3 spot, optimally. They come up too often with the bases empty. The #4 spot seems ideal for Vlad. The expected run value of HR and 2B and 1B are all highest from the #4 spot in the order! So if you are optimizing you want your best power hitter, and best hitter for AVG, 4th. If anyone gets on base, he will come up with a man on in the first inning. The order of Biggio or Bo 1-2 really doesn't matter much but if Biggio ends up getting on base a lot more maybe he should lead off.

 

The Book says: your 3 best hitters should hit 1st, 2nd, and 4th; next two best hitters should hit 3rd and 5th; the worst 3 should hit 6th-9th in order.

 

https://books.google.ca/books?id=FrUYdXKZFZwC&pg=PA122&lpg=PA122&dq=the+book+optimal+lineup&source=bl&ots=Je6s3AbvGe&sig=ACfU3U1UAd2WIcJrum6q1XFMWufE99LGJg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjbhf619uDnAhXXs54KHfRrCzgQ6AEwDnoECAoQAQ#v=onepage&q=the%20book%20optimal%20lineup&f=false

[Beans]

My Buck ******** meter isn't broken. That's certainly something Buck would make up even though there's little to no evidence he made any changes and simply was on a BABIP heater. Tabby would follow up by telling us how Cavan looks stronger and how he works hard to battle through the riggers of the MLB season. Then they'd probably say something about how Cavan has an advantage because his dad played.

Reading this actually made me kind of miss them...

 

Let's start the season already!

[P2F]

Relevant Cavan Biggio article: https://bit.ly/39WSkal

[glory]

[Carlos Danger]

Relevant Cavan Biggio article: https://bit.ly/39WSkal

 

My name is Cavan Biggio I have a very specific set of batting skills. I will find my pitch, hit your ball and kill your ERA!

 

 

 

*Good article Nick and nice Head shot

Edited February 21, 2020 by Carlos Danger

[Spanky99]

:cool:

 

[Olerud363]

 

Shi Davidi

@ShiDavidi

 

Right now Charlie Montoyo says he plans to bat Lourdes Gurriel Jr., third and Vladimir Guerrero Jr., fourth in #BlueJays lineup. Montoyo says Guerrero told him he likes seeing how teams pitch Gurriel, thinks they attack him similarly.

 

I think this also is the optimal new age sabermetric lineup because Vlad either hits with men on base or leads off the second, or you already scored a run.

 

At least that's what I was told by smart guys when I wondered why Bellinger hit fourth a lot.

[Olerud363]

Yeah you put your 4th or 5th best hitter in the #3 spot, optimally. They come up too often with the bases empty. The #4 spot seems ideal for Vlad. The expected run value of HR and 2B and 1B are all highest from the #4 spot in the order! So if you are optimizing you want your best power hitter, and best hitter for AVG, 4th. If anyone gets on base, he will come up with a man on in the first inning. The order of Biggio or Bo 1-2 really doesn't matter much but if Biggio ends up getting on base a lot more maybe he should lead off.

 

The Book says: your 3 best hitters should hit 1st, 2nd, and 4th; next two best hitters should hit 3rd and 5th; the worst 3 should hit 6th-9th in order.

 

https://books.google.ca/books?id=FrUYdXKZFZwC&pg=PA122&lpg=PA122&dq=the+book+optimal+lineup&source=bl&ots=Je6s3AbvGe&sig=ACfU3U1UAd2WIcJrum6q1XFMWufE99LGJg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjbhf619uDnAhXXs54KHfRrCzgQ6AEwDnoECAoQAQ#v=onepage&q=the%20book%20optimal%20lineup&f=false

 

See. I knew a smart guy told me this once. Just didn't notice it was yesterday.

[The Iceman]

Yeah you put your 4th or 5th best hitter in the #3 spot, optimally. They come up too often with the bases empty. The #4 spot seems ideal for Vlad. The expected run value of HR and 2B and 1B are all highest from the #4 spot in the order! So if you are optimizing you want your best power hitter, and best hitter for AVG, 4th. If anyone gets on base, he will come up with a man on in the first inning. The order of Biggio or Bo 1-2 really doesn't matter much but if Biggio ends up getting on base a lot more maybe he should lead off.

 

The Book says: your 3 best hitters should hit 1st, 2nd, and 4th; next two best hitters should hit 3rd and 5th; the worst 3 should hit 6th-9th in order.

 

https://books.google.ca/books?id=FrUYdXKZFZwC&pg=PA122&lpg=PA122&dq=the+book+optimal+lineup&source=bl&ots=Je6s3AbvGe&sig=ACfU3U1UAd2WIcJrum6q1XFMWufE99LGJg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjbhf619uDnAhXXs54KHfRrCzgQ6AEwDnoECAoQAQ#v=onepage&q=the%20book%20optimal%20lineup&f=false

 

And please tell the book they are really dumb because 6-9 is 4 batters and not 3

[Laika]

And please tell the book they are really dumb because 6-9 is 4 batters and not 3

 

that's my typo. you leave The Book out of this.

[Brownie19]

And please tell the book they are really dumb because 6-9 is 4 batters and not 3

 

We should also tell them that the 8th place hitter is the 2nd cleanup hitter.

[jerb]

 

Israel Fehr

@israelfehr

 

Blue Jays games won't be available on http://MLB.tv this season. Only streaming option is Sportsnet NOW.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ERT2CXZVAAAtuRX?format=jpg

[BillyTheKid]

Cancel your MLB.TV subscription if you use it mainly to watch the Jays

[dineke]

Way to grow the game losers

[Dick_Pole]

If Rogers pulling these scams helps incentivize them to put money into the team, it's worth it I guess. All this does is ensure MLB.TV growth in Canada takes a nosedive. If you care more about the strength of the Jays as a team than the overall health of the MLB, this is fine.

[Dick_Pole]

Also, they should say the only *legal* streaming option is Sportsnet NOW lol.

[Bobthe4th]

 

Israel Fehr

@israelfehr

 

Blue Jays games won't be available on http://MLB.tv this season. Only streaming option is Sportsnet NOW.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ERT2CXZVAAAtuRX?format=jpg

 

This use of regional blackouts just seems stupid to me. When your local team isn't very good, instead of watching other teams more you're going to watch another sport entirely rather than pay for two separate packages. I thought MLB's priority was growing the game's popularity?

[z3r0s]

cancelled my subscription. Which sucks. But the Jays is the primary reason I subscribed, seeing other games was very nice utility.

[Beans]

If Rogers pulling these scams helps incentivize them to put money into the team, it's worth it I guess. All this does is ensure MLB.TV growth in Canada takes a nosedive. If you care more about the strength of the Jays as a team than the overall health of the MLB, this is fine.

Overall health of the MLB > Strength of the Jays as a team

[Carlos Danger]

Get a VPN from Florida or something...

 

Why is there all of a sudden 50 dudes watching Blue Jays games on MLB TV from Carlos Danger's house??

[glory]

This use of regional blackouts just seems stupid to me. When your local team isn't very good, instead of watching other teams more you're going to watch another sport entirely rather than pay for two separate packages. I thought MLB's priority was growing the game's popularity?

 

When I had NBA League Pass many years ago, the same local blackout restrictions were there. I'm guessing it still is. The regional TV networks pay for the exclusive rights to broadcast games so if MLB (or any other league) has an app that prevents people from watching the TV network, then it doesn't make sense for the network. The blackouts exist to make people watch their local TV broadcast and/or go to the games live. I'm not sure in today's day and age that works as much as it used to since attendance is down, but last time I checked regional TV ratings for baseball games are pretty high, so it's working in that sense.

 

The good thing about MLB.tv is that the games become available to view after they are complete, plus you can see highlights as they happen in the video section as the game is going on. It's not the same as having access to watch it live, obviously. Ideally the league could get big money from TV networks and still be able to avoid blackout restrictions on their app, but I don't think that makes any sense for the networks.

 

It's probably going to hurt them long term but that's never been a concern for Manfred, unfortunately. It's all about money now.

Edited February 21, 2020 by glory

[Beans]

Florida... 50 dudes... Carlos Danger's house

 

Are they cute?

[Carlos Danger]

Are they cute?

 

I am, in a Roughneck kinda way... I will PM you my address.

[Beans]

I am, in a Roughneck kinda way... I will PM you my address.

 

Si tu supieras cuanto te adoro!

[WryNGinger]

 

Israel Fehr

@israelfehr

 

Blue Jays games won't be available on http://MLB.tv this season. Only streaming option is Sportsnet NOW.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ERT2CXZVAAAtuRX?format=jpg

 

So they are blacking out the entire country? That's absurd...like I am going to buy tickets when I live in Victoria. Such horse s***...

[bendera3]

So they are blacking out the entire country? That's absurd...like I am going to buy tickets when I live in Victoria. Such horse s***...

 

I live in Philly so this doesn't really mean anything to me but if I had I'd be pissed, because MLB.TV sent out a renewal email a few days ago and had I spent $130 on MLB.TV and saw that I'd be livid.

[Deadpool]

So they are blacking out the entire country? That's absurd...like I am going to buy tickets when I live in Victoria. Such horse s***...

 

It'll be on TV, just not on mlb.tv. They're trying to push their digital subscription service.

[WryNGinger]

It'll be on TV, just not on mlb.tv. They're trying to push their digital subscription service.

 

That is good to hear. Glad I misunderstood the article I read.

[Bobthe4th]

Mark Shapiro Q&A

 

Highlights:

 

The Star: You mentioned at the winter meetings that you thought the upside for payroll might be even higher than it was a few years ago, or you could at least get back to that point. What needs to happen for you to get that support from ownership?

 

Shapiro: “I think we need to win. We need to win more, take the next step and obviously we need to see the fans coming out. But it doesn't need to come out to the level that we'll spend exactly what we make. I think there's an understanding, and there always has been, a clear messaging that at some point the spending will have to outpace the revenue and then it usually it catches up, that happens everywhere in baseball. That’s not just here. If you read Mark Attanasio quotes with the Brewers and you look at almost every situation out there, as teams start to win, they ratchet up payroll ahead of the financial support that follows.”

 

The Star: On that note, there are lots of fans who consider Toronto a big market team, one that shouldn’t have to go through those cycles. What would you say to those people?

 

Shapiro: “Toronto is a big market. It's not as big a market as New York or Los Angeles. That's just a fact. It doesn't have the regional media dollars that Boston has. It obviously has a national following, but the regional media dollars that exist in the U.S. media markets is very different for the largest scale.

 

“That along with the exchange rate, which is real. I tend not to dwell on that, because it's not an excuse, but the reality is that the majority of our revenue comes in and Canadian dollars and the majority of our expenses, is U.S. dollars. It doesn't take much figuring, that's just a 25 to 30% tax and no other team has. So that mutes our revenues.

 

The Star: How would you evaluate the job that Ross Atkins in the front office has done and how it lines up with your vision of the franchise?

 

Shapiro: “I look at our baseball operation staff led by Ross and think, for us to have tried to play out that stretch as long as we did, which to some extent compromised the pace of retooling and putting a new team on the field, yet to still have elevated the talent level to where the last couple of years we're one of the better farm systems in the game, and then to see those players transition to the big leagues and do it in a way where their potential is clear to everyone watching, that's a tremendous accomplishment. That's much harder to do than it sounds.

[rydermike]

Jays sign Marc Rzepczynski to a minor league deal with ST invite.

 

 

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