Ray Verified Member Posted December 11, 2019 Posted December 11, 2019 (edited) That is absolutely absurd money for a pitcher. Edited December 11, 2019 by Ray
Abomination Old-Timey Member Posted December 11, 2019 Posted December 11, 2019 Wow. I wanted Cole, but that is ... risky.
jays4life19 Old-Timey Member Posted December 11, 2019 Posted December 11, 2019 Lol. This contract is not going to age well.
Barkerfan23 Verified Member Posted December 11, 2019 Posted December 11, 2019 Lol that is a terrible deal imo. Cole till the age of 38
THANOS Old-Timey Member Posted December 11, 2019 Posted December 11, 2019 Damn.. How much WAR does he need to produce to be worth that?
Barkerfan23 Verified Member Posted December 11, 2019 Posted December 11, 2019 Damn.. How much WAR does he need to produce to be worth that? Considering he is only going to be good for the next 5 years. 40. 8 war per year Yanks way over the luxury tax too.
Key22 Verified Member Posted December 11, 2019 Posted December 11, 2019 Well them the Yankees. It actually doesn't impact the Blue Jays too much since they were already 36 wins better than us. It does give them a pitcher who can actually shut down opposition in the playoffs. That's what they needed really - they are already a playoff team - but they needed a true ace - perhaps the best pitcher in the AL. For the Jays or other horrible teams to be able to sign Cole - they would have probably needed to come up with an 10 year $360million offer as a minimum. The good news is that the Yankees didn't also land Strasburg. If I am the Yankees though I would sign Bumgarner and Ryu. That would make for a very solid rotation with plenty of playoff experience. The great thing about the Yankees is that the money or worrying about $ per war is second to trying to win the world series. They are quite fine overpaying and in a 7 game series they have a much better chance to win that series with Cole than with Happ. Upgrading 4th starters with an Ace improves your chances. To be fair we upgraded Clay Buckholtz with Chase Anderson - so that is something
Barkerfan23 Verified Member Posted December 11, 2019 Posted December 11, 2019 Well them the Yankees. It actually doesn't impact the Blue Jays too much since they were already 36 wins better than us. It does give them a pitcher who can actually shut down opposition in the playoffs. That's what they needed really - they are already a playoff team - but they needed a true ace - perhaps the best pitcher in the AL. For the Jays or other horrible teams to be able to sign Cole - they would have probably needed to come up with an 10 year $360million offer as a minimum. The good news is that the Yankees didn't also land Strasburg. If I am the Yankees though I would sign Bumgarner and Ryu. That would make for a very solid rotation with plenty of playoff experience. I think they might be looking at a 40 percent luxury tax That's insane
Abomination Old-Timey Member Posted December 11, 2019 Posted December 11, 2019 Well them the Yankees. It actually doesn't impact the Blue Jays too much since they were already 36 wins better than us. It does give them a pitcher who can actually shut down opposition in the playoffs. That's what they needed really - they are already a playoff team - but they needed a true ace - perhaps the best pitcher in the AL. For the Jays or other horrible teams to be able to sign Cole - they would have probably needed to come up with an 10 year $360million offer as a minimum. The good news is that the Yankees didn't also land Strasburg. If I am the Yankees though I would sign Bumgarner and Ryu. That would make for a very solid rotation with plenty of playoff experience. They can't afford them. They probably have to trade Happ along with a prospect just to afford Cole.
TwistedLogic Old-Timey Member Posted December 11, 2019 Author Posted December 11, 2019 Some updates: - Opt-out after Year 5 - No-trade clause - No money deferred - Essentially earning $11K per pitch (assuming 100 pitches per game, 33 starts a year)
Key22 Verified Member Posted December 11, 2019 Posted December 11, 2019 They can't afford them. They probably have to trade Happ along with a prospect just to afford Cole. It seems they have had a lot of money come off the books in CC Sebathia and Didi. Does anyone have a link to their payroll?
Carlos Danger Old-Timey Member Posted December 11, 2019 Posted December 11, 2019 Happ is gone.. No way they will carry him..
sdyment Verified Member Posted December 11, 2019 Posted December 11, 2019 Some updates: - Opt-out after Year 5 - No-trade clause - No money deferred - Essentially earning $11K per pitch (assuming 100 pitches per game, 33 starts a year) I just threw up in my mouth a little. Edit : has Boras caught Bezos yet?
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted December 11, 2019 Posted December 11, 2019 It seems they have had a lot of money come off the books in CC Sebathia and Didi. Does anyone have a link to their payroll? https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2019/12/report-yankees-actively-trying-to-trade-j-a-happ.html https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/new-york-yankees/payroll/
Carlos Danger Old-Timey Member Posted December 11, 2019 Posted December 11, 2019 We should tell the Yankees we want Tauchman and Ford and we will take Happ off their hands.
Barkerfan23 Verified Member Posted December 11, 2019 Posted December 11, 2019 We should tell the Yankees we want Tauchman and Ford and we will take Happ of their hands. Lol some NL team will take Happ and give a prospect in return.
Barkerfan23 Verified Member Posted December 11, 2019 Posted December 11, 2019 Baseball needs a salary cap
Carlos Danger Old-Timey Member Posted December 11, 2019 Posted December 11, 2019 Lol some NL team will take Happ and give a prospect in return. Except in this case, they need to receiving team to take 100% salary. Not like a prospect and they eat half etc like in the past. I really think they need to dump 100% of Happs commitments and the receiver has leverage. Remember, Happ was not good last year and only getting older.
PhillyBlueJay Verified Member Posted December 11, 2019 Posted December 11, 2019 Atkins and Shapiro really f***ed up this year trying to act like Harvard analytics experts on every player and totally miss-played the free agent pitchers market! A team with 4-5 great young hitters that you could run for 5-6 year on arbitration and front load with 2-3 pitchers on 100 million dollar contracts to support the young pitchers coming up???? Did these two genius guys just become the laughing stock of other MLB GM's and baseball analysts!? Now the Jays are in a position that their core players are never going to be able to beat the Yankees or Boston and throwing away the youth and re-build movement. Do these two clowns think free agent pitchers are going to get any cheaper in the next 2 free agent classes? Like f***ing seriously.... After this free agent period your going to hear MLB analysts and other GM's state via media folks that the Jays really blew it this year on building around their core!!! Something that should be unforgivable for the nature of future projections on the Jays young core. 1 or 2 things I'm suspecting, Rogers and Board of Directors are really going to hear the negative feedback from MLB analysts and baseball people, fans, etc. The Board of Directors will be inclined to fire Shapiro and the ladder after a new president is found. It will be this outcome or Rogers really is trying to sell the Blue Jays as young marketable team for 1.5 billion dollars.
Orgfiller Old-Timey Member Posted December 11, 2019 Posted December 11, 2019 This just in: good pitcher has good record when his team scores a lot of runs.
glory Old-Timey Member Posted December 11, 2019 Posted December 11, 2019 This is great for baseball. MLB needs the Yankees to be the Evil Empire. It’s not great for the Jays, at least short term, but 8 more years of Stanton and now 9 years of Cole. It will be interesting to see how they perform as they get older. The Yankees likely already regret the Stanton trade two years in. So I guess now Happ is going to get moved. More pressing for the Jays is what happens with Ryu. My guess is he goes to either the Dodgers or Angels but we will see.
Bobthe4th Old-Timey Member Posted December 11, 2019 Posted December 11, 2019 This is great for baseball. MLB needs the Yankees to be the Evil Empire. It’s not great for the Jays, at least short term, but 8 more years of Stanton and now 9 years of Cole. It will be interesting to see how they perform as they get older. The Yankees likely already regret the Stanton trade two years in. So I guess now Happ is going to get moved. More pressing for the Jays is what happens with Ryu. My guess is he goes to either the Dodgers or Angels but we will see. I'd argue that Cole to the Angels would have been better for baseball - but if they end up with Rendon and Ryu as consolation prizes they'll still have had a good offseason.
TheHurl Site Manager Posted December 11, 2019 Posted December 11, 2019 Biggest ego....biggest contract
RobinThicc Verified Member Posted December 11, 2019 Posted December 11, 2019 Good signing. They'll take those s***** last years in exchange for one of the best pitchers in the game during their window to compete for a championship
Abomination Old-Timey Member Posted December 11, 2019 Posted December 11, 2019 Good signing. They'll take those s***** last years in exchange for one of the best pitchers in the game during their window to compete for a championship I'll say this. There have been some good, recent pitchers who haven't been able to handle pitching in Yankee Stadium. They had better hope to hell Cole isn't one of them.
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted December 11, 2019 Posted December 11, 2019 I wonder how the Yankees front office will try to weasel their way out of paying Cole when he’s 37 and not producing.
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted December 11, 2019 Posted December 11, 2019 If there was time for the Yankees to flex, this was it. Keeping payroll down for a few years. Major need for a front end starter. A stud SP becoming a free agent at age 29. It's funny how the Yankees have almost lulled everyone into thinking they won't spend big $ all over anymore. They will. In the right spots.
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