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On the other hand, Alonso is 24, Alvarez is 22, and Bichette is 21. Tatis is 20, but he's also showing some red flags offensively and is being boosted significantly by a very high BABIP. Being an above-average hitter in MLB at 20 is still extremely rare. It just seems less impressive now because we saw two HoF track players explode onto the scene at 20 last year, and then to a lesser extent Tatis this year. We all expected Vlad to produce like Soto with the bat, but that was probably a case of expectations that were a bit too high. His performance might seem disappointing, but it's actually indicative of a guy who's going to mash at the MLB level.

 

Where I think he's actually been disappointing is everywhere else. People were wondering out loud if his defense could approach league average and if maybe he was pretty quick given his size. Well, the defense is terrible, and he runs the bases like Wilson Ramos and Jose Abreu. There's no benefit of the doubt now that we've seen 500 PA of Vlad at his current size. He's going to absolutely bleed value on the bases, and at 3B if he stays there. He's too fat, and it hurts his value.

 

If he doesn't lose weight, the most probable outcome looks a lot like what David Ortiz did most years, or what Nelson Cruz has done recently. Outside chance that the bat gets to Miguel Cabrera levels and he contends for MVPs, but you can't really expect that kind of progression.

 

Or he could just be a Miguel Sano... Too early to tell, but that's who Vlad initially reminds me of.

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Or he could just be a Miguel Sano... Too early to tell, but that's who Vlad initially reminds me of.

 

The hitting profiles are nothing alike. Sano is an extreme three true outcomes guy while Vlad makes far more contact.

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The hitting profiles are nothing alike. Sano is an extreme three true outcomes guy while Vlad makes far more contact

Whats an "extreme three true outcomes guy"?? :confused:

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Whats an "extreme three true outcomes guy"?? :confused:

 

Walks Strikeouts Homeruns

 

Sano in a dissapointing season will hit .210 with an injury 25 homers, 50 walks and 150 strikout outs in like 100 games...

 

Guerrero in a dissapointing season will hit .265 with maybe an injury 10 homers, 40 walks and 60 strike outs in like 100 games...

 

Vladdy!=Sano

 

I think the case of Jayson Heyward would be much more relevant hitting wise (obviously Vladdy not as fit and athletic).

 

Heyward was a 19 year old whiz kid who stormed through the minors with no signs of weakness, Huge guy 6'5", 240, debuted at 20, has played full time since then, mostly lowish strike out rate, but his career has been under-whelming because of mysterious htting mechanics problems and ground ball problems.

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Zeuch just doesn't look like a major league starter at all.

 

If he at least had average or ideally plus command then he might be able to squeeze in as an okay 5th man or Sam Gaviglio type, but if you have no swing and miss stuff and combine it with mediocre command you're gonna have a bad time.

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