Offseason Roster Thread 2019-2020

[Laika]

I'm not sure what to say to that. Price is probably worth 20M / year for the next three years on the open market. Are the three arbitration years for Benintendi worth 36M + salary? I actually think they might not be. I wouldn't rage in the streets or anything - in fact, I'd probably be happy about the upgrade - but I'm not sure we'd be getting the value for our money. Ozuna + Bumgarner might be pretty similar in cost per year, and almost certainly would outperform Price and Benintendi.

 

Andrew "Chicken" Tendis has huge upside though. Kid is 25 - he could have multiple 6 WAR years; he already has a 4.4 WAR year on his resume while only poking 16 home runs. I can't see Boston ever moving him to save salary.

[Abomination]

Andrew "Chicken" Tendis has huge upside though. Kid is 25 - he could have multiple 6 WAR years; he already has a 4.4 WAR year on his resume while only poking 16 home runs. I can't see Boston ever moving him to save salary.

 

Yeah, he certainly has the potential. He also went firmly in the wrong direction last year. I don't think Boston moves him in that type of deal, but I'm also not sure he's worth the difference to the Jays to take on Price's salary. You're putting a lot of money on the line to hope for a sustained breakout.

[Pendleton]

The Jays should swing a depth deal for this guy to man 1B in Buffalo, he's obviously road blocked in STL but the profile is very rare and potentially interesting if he continues to add power - https://www.fangraphs.com/players/john-nogowski/sa829744/stats?position=1B

[SaskJaysFan_2]

https://bluejaysnation.com/2019/12/12/lets-make-a-deal-for-david-price-and-andrew-benintendi/

 

Has this idea been discussed at all? I would bring back Price and his contract if it came with Benintendi for sure

 

100%, but we'd have to give up 2-3 prospects, wouldn't we?

[Deadpool]

100%, but we'd have to give up 2-3 prospects, wouldn't we?

 

I would hope it wouldn't be that much, the point would be to swallow Price's horrid contract, and to offload that, the Sox would have to sweeten the pot considerably...

[glory]

 

Heyman has a reputation as a shill for Scott Boras, but there seems to be a lot of smoke with the Jays interest in Ryu. Doesn't mean they will get him but their interest is probably sincere.

[Spanky99]

 

Heyman has a reputation as a shill for Scott Boras, but there seems to be a lot of smoke with the Jays interest in Ryu. Doesn't mean they will get him but their interest is probably sincere.

 

I'm still hanging on to this dream.

[z3r0s]

We should consider danny hultzen as a dart throw. Finally came back healthy and put up some decent numbers as an RP

[SaskJaysFan_2]

Probably Dickerson but they’re basically all the same. Shaw would be cheapest but also the riskiest.

 

I thought Dickerson looked amazing with the Rays (and I pray to god it's the same player, I am going to not Google and trust my long term memory) and was potentially a future all star. I would sign him for shizzle.

[Spanky99]

I thought Dickerson looked amazing with the Rays (and I pray to god it's the same player, I am going to not Google and trust my long term memory) and was potentially a future all star. I would sign him for shizzle.

 

Same guy, doesn't walk much and a great hitter, but he's fragile. I'd love to get him.

[Barkerfan23]

How about Shapiro pull his indian connections and get us a good deal for Kluber?

 

Maybe they can take Merryweather back along with some other crap. Considering we have been doing them favors for years

[Angrioter]

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Vladdy HR derby MidSeason vs Now at Puerto Rico.

 

He looks skinny

[Slade]

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Vladdy HR derby MidSeason vs Now at Puerto Rico.

 

He looks skinny

 

Looks like he lost 5-10 pounds, doesn't really look too different. Still plenty of offseason to go.

[Laika]

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Vladdy HR derby MidSeason vs Now at Puerto Rico.

 

He looks skinny

 

looks the same

 

which is fine - his body is not going to transform - but maybe he is shedding some of the flab and tightening everything up.

[saskjayfan]

How about Shapiro pull his indian connections and get us a good deal for Kluber?

 

Maybe they can take Merryweather back along with some other crap. Considering we have been doing them favors for years

 

This is something i was advocating since before the off season started. I'm guessing the Indians asking price is quite high.

[Carlos Danger]

The more and more I look at it, I strongly think we should offer to take Happ 100% salary and maybe throw in another bone for Tauchman and Ford. Both are blocked with Gardner signing in OF and Ford X 2 at 1b. Tauchman is plus D and great O. Ford will outhit Rowdy and both have really good OBP.

 

Hope Happ has a good 1st half, use him in a slot while we see what we have in our fringe guys and wait for Pearson, trade Happ at the deadline.. Even if we need to eat salary..

[jerb]

 

Ryan D

@RyanDifrancesco

 

My Korean friend told me that in Korea the general sense of the baseball media is that Ryu will sign with the Jays. Apparently he fees disrespected by the Dodgers lack of financial effort.

[Carlos Danger]

 

Ryan D

@RyanDifrancesco

 

My Korean friend told me that in Korea the general sense of the baseball media is that Ryu will sign with the Jays. Apparently he fees disrespected by the Dodgers lack of financial effort.

 

I was going to make a snide comment about this. Then I thought it is probably just as reliable as JPM...

[LGBJ29]

There is also this one:

 

 

Of course the general sense was Tsutsugo was going to sign here too

[Bobthe4th]

That guy's Korean friend's credibility aside, I'm still a little turned off by the fact that the Dodgers, who know more about Ryu and his medicals than anyone, seem to not be interested in bringing him back. Maybe it's a financial issue for them (they have enough depth to not want to pay for him) but still something that would give me pause, especially if they are on the market for a SP. If they are just being cheap for lux tax purposes, then that would be a better reason.

 

TBF the Dodgers prioritised Cole then Bumgarner - they probably wouldn't have wanted to be out of the running for either by signing Ryu early. I'd actually read Ryu's comments more that he would like to stay but is a bit disappointed that the Dodgers didn't make him their number one choice. I wouldn't rule out him going back to them based on what's been reported so far.

[glory]

TBF the Dodgers prioritised Cole then Bumgarner - they probably wouldn't have wanted to be out of the running for either by signing Ryu early. I'd actually read Ryu's comments more that he would like to stay but is a bit disappointed that the Dodgers didn't make him their number one choice. I wouldn't rule out him going back to them based on what's been reported so far.

 

This does seem to be like Boras trying to use the Jays as leverage to get the Dodgers to come back and offer something. I don't see Shatkins going crazy with an offer, so the only way I see it happening is if the Dodgers and Angels are both out, and it's between the Jays and Twins. The Twins are higher on the win curve, but I refuse to believe we'd get outbid by the damn Twins for a Boras client.

[Ray]

This does seem to be like Boras trying to use the Jays as leverage to get the Dodgers to come back and offer something. I don't see Shatkins going crazy with an offer, so the only way I see it happening is if the Dodgers and Angels are both out, and it's between the Jays and Twins. The Twins are higher on the win curve, but I refuse to believe we'd get outbid by the damn Twins for a Boras client.

 

I may be wrong (and this may be wishful thinking), but I don't get the sense that the Angels and Dodgers are as big of a favorite to sign Ryu as people think. Angels need more than one good SP. Signing Ryu wouldn't give them that much to play with for a second SP. And they still need a catcher. Plus, they need durability out of their signed starters, whereas we can pay a guy $20M and just plug Anthony Kay or Zeuch into the rotation.

 

Dodgers haven't engaged at all with Ryu if you go by reports. I don't think they'd sign Ryu unless he took less money, and I don't see Ryu taking less money at this stage of his career. This may have changed with the Kluber trade and Bumgarner signing though.

 

The Twins are the team that I'd be worried about. They're contenders, they have the money, have the need. But if we can't outbid the Twins, we don't deserve Ryu anyways.

[Slade]

Let's be honest man if I had to choose from The Jays, Dodger, Angels and Twins, I wouldn't even consider Toronto in our current state. The money would have to be significantly better and from the way the offseason has turned out it doesn't sound like we've gone "significantly" better with anyone.

[TheHurl]

Dodgers plan C is the trade route, IMO. I don't think anyone needs to deal right now (most rumoured trades can wait for the season, without changing value), but it's interesting that only Kluber has been traded of the "will be traded this off-season" guys.

 

I predicted that we are going to see the biggest trade of recent years this off-season and I still think it's going to happen.

[Bobthe4th]

Dodgers plan C is the trade route, IMO. I don't think anyone needs to deal right now (most rumoured trades can wait for the season, without changing value), but it's interesting that only Kluber has been traded of the "will be traded this off-season" guys.

 

I predicted that we are going to see the biggest trade of recent years this off-season and I still think it's going to happen.

 

Syndergaard?

[TheHurl]

Syndergaard?

 

I would say he'd be target number 1. I can see a three way with the Indians, Mets and Dodgers. Mets are still projected better than Nats, Braves and Phillies by Zips/Steamer. With shortstops and OF being on the move as well.

[SaskJaysFan_2]

This is why (IMO) Price makes the most sense. It sucks that we're not the Yankees, but trading for Price to (#gross) help the Red Sox avoid the luxury tax may be the only way we get a 2+ WAR pitcher.

[TheHurl]

This is why (IMO) Price makes the most sense. It sucks that we're not the Yankees, but trading for Price to (#gross) help the Red Sox avoid the luxury tax may be the only way we get a 2+ WAR pitcher.

 

and when they ask for an asset back???

[jerb]

 

Ken Rosenthal

@Ken_Rosenthal

 

Expectation within industry is Ryu will exceed Bumgarner’s $17M average annual value in deal of at least four years. Two industry people with knowledge of starting-pitching market predict minimum four years, $80M. Teams still in need of starter include #BlueJays; #Angels; #Twins.

[glory]

Yeah, 4/80 is what I thought would get him. I'd be surprised if anyone offered more, but who knows with this market.