Reds claim Freddy Galvis off waivers

[Jonn]

I don't understand this one. Just let him sit a couple times a week for another month and a half and trade him in the offseason.

 

I don’t understand why Galvis couldn’t have played second base with Biggio getting starts at 2B, 1B, LF, RF. Montoyo would awkwardly rotate Bo and Galvis at DH and SS while continuing to play Smoak at 1B when he could have DH’d or just been out of the lineup. Really Smoak needs to be punted to the sun at this point. I would rather Tellez get at-bats and Tellez sucks.

[Spanky99]

Weird, but it will be good to see what AA can do

Oh, Alford, nvm.

[Stangstag]

I hate assuming, but I wouldn't be surprised if there was some discontent on Galvis' behalf. He's always been an starter who plays everyday. The Jays could have picked up his $5M option in the offseason and tried to deal him - but in reality, he isn't worth anything anymore because his defense is just good now (instead of great, which it was in 2016 and 2017). Iglesias is superior to Galvis and he was DFA'd this past offseason and had to accept a minor league invite IIRC.

 

Will be curious to see if more comes out on this story. Maybe some stuff happening behind closed doors - maybe just the Jays doing him a solid so he can catch on and play more on another team. He's only a great guy to have on your bench if he accepts and embraces that role. If he's pissed off, wanting to start than he can become a distraction.

 

Boom. Exactly. I don’t think Galvis signed here with the intention of being a bench piece. I think management did him a solid by allowing him to go to another team and hopefully get more play time.

 

We need Bichette playing SS everyday. Urena can be the bench guy.

[Jonn]

The only thing I can think is that the analytics say Urena and Galvis are the same player except Urena isn't an "established vet" so he can play twice a week.

 

Not sure what Urena's defense projects to be... his minor league career looks better than Galvis'

 

I question if Urena is good enough to play in AAA let alone the majors. I really hope hes not a utility man next season he can’t hit and his glove isn’t good enough to make up for his inability to get the ball out of the infield. Galvis would have been a really nice utility player.

[Jonn]

Boom. Exactly. I don’t think Galvis signed here with the intention of being a bench piece. I think management did him a solid by allowing him to go to another team and hopefully get more play time.

 

We need Bichette playing SS everyday. Urena can be the bench guy.

 

He probably shouldn’t have agreed to a team option if that’s the case. We needed some value out of that option. Doing guys favours doesn’t make the Blue Jays better. Unless he was complaining behind the scenes.

[BTS]

Boom. Exactly. I don’t think Galvis signed here with the intention of being a bench piece. I think management did him a solid by allowing him to go to another team and hopefully get more play time.

 

We need Bichette playing SS everyday. Urena can be the bench guy.

 

I hate s*** like this. He’s a 1-2 win player making 5M a year. If the team says he’s now a utility player who will get 300-400 PA covering three infield spots, then that’s what he’ll do and he’d damn well better not complain. The idea that Freddy f***ing Galvis is above a utility role is absurd.

[Jonn]

Maybe Shatkins can find another Freddy Galvis in the off-season. It would be nice to go into a season with useful bench players for once. This year we started with Maile, McKinney, and Urena. God I would hope we can do better than that next year.

[Barkerfan23]

Doesn't Galvis have an option?

Dont injuries happen all the time

[Abomination]

It's quite likely that Galvis signed with the understanding that the team would attempt to move him when the kids needed to take his starting spot.

 

Also, there's a buyout on his option, so we actually save about 2M.

[Terminator]

Add backup INF to the list of needs for this upcoming offseason.

[Barkerfan23]

It's quite likely that Galvis signed with the understanding that the team would attempt to move him when the kids needed to take his starting spot.

 

Also, there's a buyout on his option, so we actually save about 2M.

 

I guess there is value in that

 

Basically he was worth 0 at the deadline

[Frag]

[Brownie19]

Maybe Shatkins can find another Freddy Galvis in the off-season. It would be nice to go into a season with useful bench players for once. This year we started with Maile, McKinney, and Urena. God I would hope we can do better than that next year.

 

To be fair - Maile was coming off a 2.2 WAR season. He was a top 10 or 12 catcher in all of baseball in 2018.

[Abomination]

Add backup INF to the list of needs for this upcoming offseason.

 

They can just use Urena. He doesn't appear to have the bat to be a regular, so even though he's a young player, putting him in the bench role is probably fine.

[Thaddeus Malice]

Galvis is cheap utility guy who has been a positive contributor for five years now. He's perfect for plugging into all the innings and at bats where there's an injury here or there in the infield. He would have wound up with a good number of AB's next year just in that role.

 

Losing that positive value asset for those marginal innings your key guys aren't going to be playing, and instead having to look for a replacement to do the exact same thing seems like it doesn't make much sense? I don't get this.

[Brownie19]

Add backup INF to the list of needs for this upcoming offseason.

 

We have Drury, McGwire/Maile and Fisher/Alford/McKinney already. We will need someone who can play SS. Could be Urena, could be a cheap FA. Our bench isn't that bad though.

[Brownie19]

Galvis is cheap utility guy who has been a positive contributor for five years now. He's perfect for plugging into all the innings and at bats where there's an injury here or there in the infield. He would have wound up with a good number of AB's next year just in that role.

 

Losing that positive value asset for those marginal innings your key guys aren't going to be playing, and instead having to look for a replacement to do the exact same thing seems like it doesn't make much sense? I don't get this.

 

You also have about 1/100th of the information the Jays do. Just relax and assume the professionals are making good decisions.

[Jonn]

They can just use Urena. He doesn't appear to have the bat to be a regular, so even though he's a young player, putting him in the bench role is probably fine.

 

Sure if they want to suck again next season just put Urena on the bench. Would be nice knowing when we rest a regular we have someone somewhat capable to replace them in that game. Houston has a lot of that. It looks fun.

[Thaddeus Malice]

You also have about 1/100th of the information the Jays do. Just relax and assume the professionals are making good decisions.

 

"A front office can never be criticized for their decisions because they are professionals. Just relax. " - Orioles fan as their team signs Chris Davis.

 

Obviously Shatkins in making this move aren't doing anything in the ballpark of a Chris Davis signing. But the idea that we can't criticize front office decisions because we don't have the same information is completely inane. Front offices make bad decisions all the time. This one probably won't matter, but to me, it appears to be weak asset management.

[Jimcanuck]

Meaningless move in the grand scheme of things. Jays probably always intended to trade him at the deadline for something, and apparently were offered nothing. Save some money, sign some other dime a dozen backup in the offseason.

[Bobthe4th]

If there were no takers at the deadline, and they think they can’t trade Galvis in the offseason then fine. But this is what pisses me off:

 

 

Why the f*** is McKinney back up? If they want a s*** player so that Montoyo isn’t going to play him, then why not Urena who is at least an infielder?

[Terminator]

They can just use Urena. He doesn't appear to have the bat to be a regular, so even though he's a young player, putting him in the bench role is probably fine.

 

Urena is atrocious. It'd be nice to at least fake like we're going for .500 next year.

[BTS]

Add backup INF to the list of needs for this upcoming offseason.

 

The current 2019 infield, not including C or 1B, looks something like:

 

2B - Biggio

3B - Guerrero

SS - Bichette

 

2B/3B - Drury

SS/2B - Urena

 

I'm pretty sure this move was made with an eye to the fact that Drury and Urena are both a) controllable and out of options next season. If the FO saw value in an external backup infielder, it's hard to imagine a better fit than the guy they just gave away for nothing.

[Orgfiller]

If there were no takers at the deadline, and they think they can’t trade Galvis in the offseason then fine. But this is what pisses me off:

 

 

Why the f*** is McKinney back up? If they want a s*** player so that Montoyo isn’t going to play him, then why not Urena who is at least an infielder?

 

Because McKinney can kind of hit? Urena is f***ing awful and Drury can already pretty much cover all over the infield if need be.

[BTS]

They can just use Urena. He doesn't appear to have the bat to be a regular, so even though he's a young player, putting him in the bench role is probably fine.

 

Dude has a career AAA wRC+ of like 65 over 600 PA, and projects at under 60 in the majors. He's not an MLB player.

[Orgfiller]

The current 2019 infield, not including C or 1B, looks something like:

 

2B - Biggio

3B - Guerrero

SS - Bichette

 

2B/3B - Drury

SS/2B - Urena

 

I'm pretty sure this move was made with an eye to the fact that Drury and Urena are both a) controllable and out of options next season. If the FO saw value in an external backup infielder, it's hard to imagine a better fit than the guy they just gave away for nothing.

 

It should be noted that a guy like Jose Iglesias, who is basically a carbon copy of who Freddy Galvis is as a player, will be a FA this offseason a year after signing a minor league contract. Maybe they think they can acquire a guy like him for nothing/half the price of Galvis and be no worse off. Not that I like us giving away Galvis, but this is clearly a money thing.

[Bobthe4th]

Because McKinney can kind of hit? Urena is f***ing awful and Drury can already pretty much cover all over the infield if need be.

 

McKinney is just as bad as Urena. If they are looking for someone to actually play, it should have been Alford or Tellez.

[Thaddeus Malice]

Because McKinney can kind of hit? Urena is f***ing awful and Drury can already pretty much cover all over the infield if need be.

 

Urena is awful. But so is Brandon Drury.

[Orgfiller]

McKinney is just as bad as Urena. If they are looking for someone to actually play, it should have been Alford or Tellez.

 

No he isn't. McKinney is likely a bad 0-1 win player, with former prospect hype that you can dream on a 2 win season, Urena is almost certainly below replacement level and has no ceiling.

[Bobthe4th]

It should be noted that a guy like Jose Iglesias, who is basically a carbon copy of who Freddy Galvis is as a player, will be a FA this offseason a year after signing a minor league contract. Maybe they think they can acquire a guy like him for nothing/half the price of Galvis and be no worse off. Not that I like us giving away Galvis, but this is clearly a money thing.

 

If it was only a money thing that would be pointless. We have one of the lowest payroll commitments in the league next season already.