2019 MLB Draft | Day 1 Thread - Prepare your overreactions

[Boxcar]

Longley is Fake News. We need to open up the libel laws.

 

Very fake news

[Frag]

Jays got their Manoah...

 

I don't mind the pick, after looking at various scouting reports and how Fangraphs views him.

[Pendleton]

1pm seems like a late start to day 2, get that s*** moving

[jays4life19]

I trust everyone will be pushing for Will Holland for our next pick? I think at this point there's no point in hoping for Mr. Jones as he's not signing at this point with the Jays

[Pendleton]

I trust everyone will be pushing for Will Holland for our next pick? I think at this point there's no point in hoping for Mr. Jones as he's not signing at this point with the Jays

 

College bat underslot, I'll pick one here shortly

[jays4life19]

College bat underslot, I'll pick one here shortly

 

 

Does he rhyme with Bill Rolland?

[metafour]

Unless he's somehow hiding a hell of a lot of muscle in those videos, he's definitely overweight, and probably borderline obese.

 

This looks "borderline obese" to you LOL?

 

 

[Pendleton]

Does he rhyme with Bill Rolland?

 

He'd be a good pick at this point I'd think. Will Robertson seems to have some easy power. At some point we need to take Jake Sandford, tons of pop and comes from the same town as Sidney Crosby and Nathan MacKinnon so obviously destined for greatness.

[Pendleton]

If we continue to go pitching, Hunter Brown seems interesting. Mechanics look very free and easy

 

[LGBJ29]

This looks "borderline obese" to you LOL?

 

 

 

this board is hilarious, anytime a guy is a on the bulkier side he is labeled morbidly obese. I read through the comments on here and expected the guy to look like Prince Fielder. There's gotta just be a ton of fatties on here that are ready to pounce on any opportunity to call someone else fat to make them feel better about themselves

[jays4life19]

Rumor has it BTS is a huge fatty so you might be onto something

[Pendleton]

Andrew Dahlquist seems really interesting on the HS pitching side

[Boxcar]

this board is hilarious, anytime a guy is a on the bulkier side he is labeled morbidly obese. I read through the comments on here and expected the guy to look like Prince Fielder. There's gotta just be a ton of fatties on here that are ready to pounce on any opportunity to call someone else fat to make them feel better about themselves

 

Holy f***, I didn't really look at him before but he's just a naturally big dude. He's also 6'6".

 

You're probably bang on, that guy is no where near obese.

 

Also, thanks, I'll gladly take prime CC Sabathia who churned out like 250 ace level innings every year into his 30s if that's the comparison we're all going for.

 

The more I analyze this pick, the more I love it. Manoah could easily be the best pitcher in this draft.

Edited June 4, 2019 by Boxcar

[Brownie19]

You guys have ruined my joke of suggesting our new draft pick should be a dietitian. Jerks.

[Brownie19]

Anyone remember Jon Harris? LMAO

 

Zeuch too

 

That's who I thought of when I read the scouting report. Big, heavy sinking fastball, good control. Zeuch's a little slimmer, listed at 6'7 225 lbs.

[Frag]

So, this is extremely rough (and probably too optimistic), but among pitchers who have pitched a decent career since 2008 with Manoah's size and command, it seems to compare with Mat Latos's profile earlier in his career (estimating FV grades with PitchF/X, plus size and command). Nowhere near exact, but that's one name that pops up.

 

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[metafour]

That's who I thought of when I read the scouting report. Big, heavy sinking fastball, good control. Zeuch's a little slimmer, listed at 6'7 225 lbs.

 

Apart from both of them being tall, I don't see the comparison at all. Manoah isn't a sinkerballer, his fastball actually misses bats...and his slider is an actual wipeout pitch (which again, Zeuch does not possess). One guy is a pitch-to-contact type, the other is just a straight power arm. The K-rates reflect on this.

[Orgfiller]

So, this is extremely rough (and probably too optimistic), but among pitchers who have pitched a decent career since 2008 with Manoah's size and command, it seems to compare with Mat Latos's profile earlier in his career (estimating FV grades with PitchF/X, plus size and command). Nowhere near exact, but that's one name that pops up.

 

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

We should be ecstatic if Manoah turns into pre-pumpkin Mat Latos, which was all throughout his controllable years.

[Frag]

We should be ecstatic if Manoah turns into pre-pumpkin Mat Latos, which was all throughout his controllable years.

 

Hence, "optimistic". lol

[Krylian]

So, this is extremely rough (and probably too optimistic), but among pitchers who have pitched a decent career since 2008 with Manoah's size and command, it seems to compare with Mat Latos's profile earlier in his career (estimating FV grades with PitchF/X, plus size and command). Nowhere near exact, but that's one name that pops up.

 

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

Joba?

 

I know he was only 6'2" but he was thick, with a power arm. Just came to mind is all.

[Brownie19]

Apart from both of them being tall, I don't see the comparison at all. Manoah isn't a sinkerballer, his fastball actually misses bats...and his slider is an actual wipeout pitch (which again, Zeuch does not possess). One guy is a pitch-to-contact type, the other is just a straight power arm. The K-rates reflect on this.

 

I based this solely on size and this from the MLB.com write up on Manoah 'He's physically imposing on the mound and works in the mid-90s with heavy sink and tough plane on his fastball.'

 

I'm happy to hear his fastball and slider are expected to be a lot better than Zeuch's. Why'd we draft Zeuch again?

[Krylian]

I based this solely on size and this from the MLB.com write up on Manoah 'He's physically imposing on the mound and works in the mid-90s with heavy sink and tough plane on his fastball.'

 

I'm happy to hear his fastball and slider are expected to be a lot better than Zeuch's. Why'd we draft Zeuch again?

 

McGuire, Jenkins, Harris, Zeuch are the generic stuff guys. "4 solid offerings". Stay away from those guys in the early rounds. I want explosive or "projectable" in the earlier rounds. Jays seems to have gone with that so far in 2019.

[polar bear]

At least he comes with a big package

 

The girls will love that.

[Krylian]

The girls will love that.

 

Some guys too.

[polar bear]

Some guys too.

 

Pillow biters ?

[Boxcar]

McGuire, Jenkins, Harris, Zeuch are the generic stuff guys. "4 solid offerings". Stay away from those guys in the early rounds. I want explosive or "projectable" in the earlier rounds. Jays seems to have gone with that so far in 2019.

 

Guys can always develop pitches. You want spin rate, velo and some semblance of command, ideally, with solid mechanics.

[Jonn]

Day 2 coming up! Great organisations get built on Day 2.

[Krylian]

Guys can always develop pitches. You want spin rate, velo and some semblance of command, ideally, with solid mechanics.

 

I should've prefaced that by saying specifically college guys with generic stuff I'd try to stay away from early. I think they're far closer to being what they are gonna be already.

Edited June 4, 2019 by Krylian

[Krylian]

Day 2 coming up! Great organisations get built on Day 2.

 

Adam Kloffenstein, Riley Adams, Kevin Smith, Cavan Biggio...some of our most recent Day 2's.

[Plat]

How many picks do the Blue Jays have on day 2?