Is Vlad Jr the best prospect ever?

[Krylian]

I'm not sure why you guys think he gained 50lb in one offseason. Websites display his weight when he signed his contract. He was 200lb at 16.

 

Gaining 50 lbs since he signed isn't good either. It's not like he was 150 lbs when he started.

[LGBJ29]

Seems like a good to throw this out there

 

 

https://www.thescore.com/mlb/news/1728881/blue-jays-vlad-jr-focused-on-fitness-at-spring-training

 

Vladimir Guerrero Jr. isn't "killing" himself to lose weight but he would like to start the season - wherever he ends up - in the best shape possible.

 

The 19-year-old phenom is officially listed at 6-foot-2 and 250 lbs and hopes spending time at the Toronto Blue Jays' major league camp will help him strengthen his body.

 

"That weight is normal for me; that's what I weighed last year. But this spring training, getting in better shape is part of my job too," Guerrero told Marly Rivera of ESPN on Monday. "Part of the work I am focused on this spring training is to strengthen my body and be as healthy as possible.

 

"I am not killing myself to lose weight but it is my job to be in the best shape possible for when the season starts."

 

Guerrero - widely considered the best prospect in baseball - is also working on changing his diet.

 

"Right now I feel that I am in a good place," he said. "Since last year, I've been working on not eating fast food and making better food choices. I think that when you get more experience you know how to control your emotions more."

 

Blue Jays general manager Ross Atkins said last week Guerrero isn't a "major-league player" yet. The Jays GM previously said the team wants him to be the "best possible third baseman" he can be.

 

Many expect the club to keep Guerrero in the minors to start the MLB season - despite eye-popping at-bats like the one seen below - to manipulate his service time.

 

Guerrero was named the Minor League Player of the Year after slashing 381/.437/.636 with 20 home runs and 78 RBIs across four minor-league levels in 2018.

[FrozenRopes]

To answer the thread title, no. A-Rod was.

[FrozenRopes]

Seems like a good to throw this out there

 

 

https://www.thescore.com/mlb/news/1728881/blue-jays-vlad-jr-focused-on-fitness-at-spring-training

 

What was Prince's playing weight? Had to be 3 bills. Be nice to have Vlad at 225 lbs but if that isn't his playable weight, give him a few years.

[Abomination]

What was Prince's playing weight? Had to be 3 bills. Be nice to have Vlad at 225 lbs but if that isn't his playable weight, give him a few years.

 

275, but he was only 5'11 (maybe).

[Jonn]

Seems like a good to throw this out there

 

 

https://www.thescore.com/mlb/news/1728881/blue-jays-vlad-jr-focused-on-fitness-at-spring-training

 

 

Music to my ears. Its great that he is taking conditioning and his diet more seriously. It will only help both him and us in the long run. Hes always going to be bigger but if he works hard enough he will be able to lean out and get lighter on his feet for sure without sacrificing any of the strength and power he has. Just needs a good diet and exercise program to maintain.

[Bobthe4th]

Music to my ears. Its great that he is taking conditioning and his diet more seriously. It will only help both him and us in the long run. Hes always going to be bigger but if he works hard enough he will be able to lean out and get lighter on his feet for sure without sacrificing any of the strength and power he has. Just needs a good diet and exercise program to maintain.

 

Let’s see how long taking his diet seriously lasts when he has access to the free MLB clubhouse food!

[Jonn]

Let’s see how long taking his diet seriously lasts when he has access to the free MLB clubhouse food!

 

I am sure the majority of the food in the clubhouse is food they want the players eating.

[Orgfiller]

Let’s see how long taking his diet seriously lasts when he has access to the free MLB clubhouse food!

 

The free MLB clubhouse food isn't the problem for his diet, it's the being young and rich in a city like Toronto.

[BTS]

The free MLB clubhouse food isn't the problem for his diet, it's the being young and rich in a city like Toronto.

 

It's probably not even that. To be obese at 19 even though you're working out daily points to a pretty unhealthy relationship with food, probably. His issue is likely junk food, and that can be a tough, tough addiction to kick for some people. He has his work cut out for him.

[L54]

I am sure the majority of the food in the clubhouse is food they want the players eating.

 

Why anyone would think differently is beyond me. Yes they're pumping out boxes of Lucky Charms and Cinnamon Toast Crunch for breakfast, Delissio pizza buffet for lunch and a freezer full of Hungry Man tv dinners for supper

 

When they talk about Vlad's diet, they aren't talking about him being on the Atkins Diet or Weight Watchers. His diet encompasses everything he is eating, not that they have him on a strict regimen of cabbage and celery.

[LGBJ29]

It's probably not even that. To be obese at 19 even though you're working out daily points to a pretty unhealthy relationship with food, probably. His issue is likely junk food, and that can be a tough, tough addiction to kick for some people. He has his work cut out for him.

 

On the plus side at least he's recognized this and is already making an effort at 19

[Terminator]

It's pretty damn remarkable that someone can be that fat and a professional athlete. I know it's baseball but he's still out there exercising a shitload each and every day. Baseball players do a lot more conditioning than people think too. The guy must be eating like absolute s***.

 

Pablo Sandoval had serious problems. By many accounts he was a workout machine he just ate so horrible it didn't matter. Here's a Giants' announcer on Pablo:

 

I know somebody whose job it was to check in on Sandoval in the offseason, in South Florida where he was supposed to be getting into shape, and he told me he would show up at this gym at 7:00 in the morning, and said, “I couldn’t beat him there.” In other words, Sandoval was already there when he showed up, every time, unannounced at 7:00. He would stay there for the entire morning, and then you see what kind of shape he showed up in, so it isn’t an unwillingness to work. Look, I’m not even playing a doctor on the radio this morning, but it certainly seems like this guy has some sort of significant eating disorder, because if you’re putting that much time in at the gym, and it’s supervised, and it’s all programmed out, and then you walk into camp, the way he did, you must be eating an awful lot to counteract the work you’re doing.

 

And I’ll tell you another anecdote. This is how concerned the Giants were when he played for them ... they would make special arrangements at the hotel the Giants were staying in to not allow him to order room service. They would tell the front desk management, “If he calls down for room service at night after games, do not send anything to this room.” They went to great measures to try to cut down on those eating binges, and it would only work for a time because he would find someplace to get food.

[Bobthe4th]

It's pretty damn remarkable that someone can be that fat and a professional athlete. I know it's baseball but he's still out there exercising a shitload each and every day. Baseball players do a lot more conditioning than people think too. The guy must be eating like absolute s***.

 

Pablo Sandoval had serious problems. By many accounts he was a workout machine he just ate so horrible it didn't matter. Here's a Giants' announcer on Pablo:

 

Yeah Vlad hasn't got this good at baseball by being lazy, he's put in a lot of hard work, practice and training. So he's fat because he eats too much, which means it'll be hard for him to change his habits.

[Laika]

Good thing the Blue Jays now employ 14 sports psychologists and 6.5 roaming dieticians and 2 social workers and Kirstie Alley.

[BTS]

It's pretty damn remarkable that someone can be that fat and a professional athlete. I know it's baseball but he's still out there exercising a shitload each and every day. Baseball players do a lot more conditioning than people think too. The guy must be eating like absolute s***.

 

Pablo Sandoval had serious problems. By many accounts he was a workout machine he just ate so horrible it didn't matter. Here's a Giants' announcer on Pablo:

 

That's sad. Sandoval had a ton of talent, but his body was pretty much done at 28.

[John_Havok]

Good thing the Blue Jays now employ 14 sports psychologists and 6.5 roaming dieticians and 2 social workers and Kirstie Alley.

 

Weight watchers new spokesman Vlad Guerrero Jr

[Captain Adama]

All of you sick f***s are fat shaming. It's absolutely possible to be a thicker person and be athletic!

[Jonn]

It's probably not even that. To be obese at 19 even though you're working out daily points to a pretty unhealthy relationship with food, probably. His issue is likely junk food, and that can be a tough, tough addiction to kick for some people. He has his work cut out for him.

 

Calling him Obese is a f***ing stretch man at best lol. Maybe his BMI suggests he is in technical terms. But hes strong as well. BMI chart would apply more towards the average person and not an athlete who trains and has muscle mass that would contribute to increased weight as well. His goal should be to get in 220-230 range though. Leaning out would be beneficial to his career and taking less strain on his joints. Would have an increased chance at staying at Third Base as well. The important thing is he has acknowledged this himself and its not something the team is forcing him to do. The first key to losing weight is wanting to do it for yourself first and foremost.

[BTS]

Calling him Obese is a f***ing stretch man at best lol. Maybe his BMI suggests he is in technical terms. But hes strong as well. BMI chart would apply more towards the average person and not an athlete who trains and has muscle mass that would contribute to increased weight as well. His goal should be to get in 220-230 range though. Leaning out would be beneficial to his career and taking less strain on his joints. Would have an increased chance at staying at Third Base as well. The important thing is he has acknowledged this himself and its not something the team is forcing him to do. The first key to losing weight is wanting to do it for yourself first and foremost.

 

Have you seen his ass? Dude is obese man.

[Terminator]

Vlad Jr. is a fat f*** and there's no getting around that. They list him at 250 but I bet he weighs more than that even. Obese is accurate. If Jonn doesn't think he's fat that tells me Jonn is REALLY fat and doesn't like it when people skinnier than him are called obese because it makes him feel bad.

[Jonn]

Vlad Jr. is a fat f*** and there's no getting around that. They list him at 250 but I bet he weighs more than that even. Obese is accurate. If Jonn doesn't think he's fat that tells me Jonn is REALLY fat and doesn't like it when people skinnier than him are called obese because it makes him feel bad.

 

I don't appreciate being fat shamed. Mods.

[Spanky99]

That's sad. Sandoval had a ton of talent, but his body was pretty much done at 28.

 

In saying that, I don't understand how people think Prince ate himself out of baseball, he had degenerative spine(like David Wright), that guy was going to continue to rake. Sandoval legit did though.

[glory]

BMI is s*** in general, but Vlad is definitely overweight. Just look at the man.

[BTS]

I don't appreciate being fat shamed. Mods.

 

I’ll do a full investigation into Terminator’s comments. Fatty.

[Bobthe4th]

Calling him Obese is a f***ing stretch man at best lol. Maybe his BMI suggests he is in technical terms. But hes strong as well. BMI chart would apply more towards the average person and not an athlete who trains and has muscle mass that would contribute to increased weight as well. His goal should be to get in 220-230 range though. Leaning out would be beneficial to his career and taking less strain on his joints. Would have an increased chance at staying at Third Base as well. The important thing is he has acknowledged this himself and its not something the team is forcing him to do. The first key to losing weight is wanting to do it for yourself first and foremost.

 

http://i.imgur.com/O5HWSwd.jpg

[Maico450]

Today Vlad was tested at 3B for the 1st time this spring at home games. Prior to today all of his defensive plays have been easy ones. In the 2nd inning, there was a hard hit 2 bounce ball, just to Vlads right. How he reacted, was to twist his upper body around till his back was to home plate, and try to backhand the ball out of the air. The ball went over his glove for a hit down the line.

What he should have done, was take a big slide step to his right, and catch the ball chest high.

Needs some work there.

[WryNGinger]

Today Vlad was tested at 3B for the 1st time this spring at home games. Prior to today all of his defensive plays have been easy ones. In the 2nd inning, there was a hard hit 2 bounce ball, just to Vlads right. How he reacted, was to twist his upper body around till his back was to home plate, and try to backhand the ball out of the air. The ball went over his glove for a hit down the line.

What he should have done, was take a big slide step to his right, and catch the ball chest high.

Needs some work there.

 

The two weeks he spends in Buffalo should fix that problem.

[Maico450]

Don't think 2 weeks of anything will fix that. That was an instinctive move.

[KevinGregg]

interesting quote from Shapiro on Vladdy's injury:

 

during a televised interview the same day when asked whether Guerrero’s size, along with his violent swing, might have contributed to last week’s oblique injury.

 

Shapiro replied that the injury and subsequent rehab should force Guerrero “to think about how he adjusts the way he goes out and prepares, not just for a game but for an entire major-league season.”