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[Abomination]

The Rays don't have any elite players (unless you consider Meadows one)

 

What exactly is your definition of an elite player?

 

I mean, Morton is 6th among all pitchers this year in WAR. I would consider Meadows to be one. He's top 40 in WAR this year among all position players. It's not like they're running a bunch of trash out there.

[Jimcanuck]

Looking at the team rankings, the Rays are 1st in pitching, 10th in fielding, 12th in hitting, MLB wide.

 

That's a playoff team.

[glory]

Not saying the Rays aren't a playoff team, just that they'd be death for MLB in terms of interest/ratings.

 

I remember watching the Brewers games last year, and that crowd was electric. They are a small market team but those fans love the Brewers. They had an elite MVP player in Yelich. That's what I'm talking about. If you tell me I have to watch Austin Meadows as the top star, a s***** stadium with fans who don't really care about the team (they'd go to St. Pete if they were real fans), and something that is going to likely hurt MLB's national TV ratings, then yeah, I'm not going to root for it. The Jays are different. They are not America's darling team, but anyone who watched the 2015-16 playoffs commented on how hostile, rowdy, and passionate the live crowds were. You can sell that type of atmosphere on TV.

 

Also, I fundamentally just hate the Rays. Can't root for them. Maybe them owning the Jays for as long as I can remember is part of the reason, but it's just ingrained in me now.

[Jimcanuck]

Ah, I get that to some extent. But I'd be interested in how the Rays pitching does against the Yanks or Twinkies hitting in a short series.

[Orgfiller]

The Rays don't have any elite players (unless you consider Meadows one), they play in a s*** hole stadium, they have no fans, and if they advance to the ALDS it would get lower ratings than reruns of 80s sitcoms. Plus, excessive pitching changes/openers, excessive shifting, etc, is boring as hell to watch. I'm not rooting for teams because they have ivy league front offices. Give me big markets, exciting players, etc. The Jays got a ton of media coverage in the US when Bautista hit the home run because we were loaded with star players. Tampa just has nothing to get excited about.

 

If the Jays are not in the playoffs, then I'm rooting for baseball to succeed. Give me the Astros/Yankees in the ALCS and Dodgers/whoever in the NL side. NYY/LAD in the WS would be great for baseball. Only exception might be that I wouldn't mind if Billy Beane won a title, so if the A's happen to get by, then that's cool too.

 

Charlie Morton? Blake Snell? Meadows was certainly excellent this year. Tell me about the elite players on the Cardinals, I'm sure everyone would say it's good for baseball for the Cardinals to win despite them being a worse team. To say that the Rays don't have an exciting team is totally your interpretation, I enjoy teams that don't have any black holes and despite limited payroll can find creative ways to win. The Rays have a lot more good players than you're giving them credit for.

[jaysguy44]

I'm not sure who to pull for in that Wildcard game, but all I know is I'm on the Twins bandwagon come playoff time. It honestly wouldn't surprise me to see them upset the Yanks.

[AintNoThang]

What's up, Blow Jay community? I just have to vent for a minute here. I've always been obsessed with baseball stats growing up. I'd buy baseball cards and memorize the data on them. But I've been recently been having real beef with the "win" criteria. Can anyone tell me how someone labelled a starter like Glasnow, can pitch 4.1 innings with 0 runs allowed and leading 3-0 when he left the game, is less deserving than f***ing Drake who only pitched 2 innings and allowed a run, leaving the game at 3-2? All while an "opener" can pitch 2 innings to start the game under the same circumstances and get the win?! The stat is pointless because there's no consistency.

 

Also, don't get me started on save, whip, or RBI statistics! Not to mention assists in hockey. Two players can get an assist on one play???? It's pure lunacy.

 

Looking forward to a drunk Spanky repost.

[Spanky__99]

What's up, Blow Jay community? I just have to vent for a minute here. I've always been obsessed with baseball stats growing up. I'd buy baseball cards and memorize the data on them. But I've been recently been having real beef with the "win" criteria. Can anyone tell me how someone labelled a starter like Glasnow, can pitch 4.1 innings with 0 runs allowed and leading 3-0 when he left the game, is less deserving than f***ing Drake who only pitched 2 innings and allowed a run, leaving the game at 3-2? All while an "opener" can pitch 2 innings to start the game under the same circumstances and get the win?! The stat is pointless because there's no consistency.

 

Also, don't get me started on save, whip, or RBI statistics! Not to mention assists in hockey. Two players can get an assist on one play???? It's pure lunacy.

 

Looking forward to a drunk Spanky repost.

 

lol... an opener can't record a win, ya big dummy, W/L are DUMN!!!

[Barkerfan23]

Still cant belive how bad the Archer trade was. Organizational destroying trade

[AintNoThang]

lol... an opener can't record a win, ya big dummy, W/L are DUMN!!!

 

That is very dumn of me. I thought Yarbrough was an opener last year and that's why so many wins. Should've known he was a bulk guy with the innings he pitched. Carry on.

[Spanky__99]

Who else is cheering for the Nats in the playoffs

 

They have a ton of momentum and the SP's are killer, I can see it, said it awhile back.

[Spanky__99]

Charlie Morton? Blake Snell? Meadows was certainly excellent this year. Tell me about the elite players on the Cardinals, I'm sure everyone would say it's good for baseball for the Cardinals to win despite them being a worse team. To say that the Rays don't have an exciting team is totally your interpretation, I enjoy teams that don't have any black holes and despite limited payroll can find creative ways to win. The Rays have a lot more good players than you're giving them credit for.

 

Unbelievable what they've done with that payroll. It's quite fascinating. As Hurl posted earlier, viewership is way up. It's like far better than the Yankees, although they both have been killed by injury to key players, but the Yanks had the money and depth. Incredible.

[Orgfiller]

Jorge Soler has 47 homeruns, and will be the AL leader while playing half his games at f***ing Kauffman.

[Spanky__99]

Jorge Soler has 47 homeruns, and will be the AL leader while playing half his games at f***ing Kauffman.

 

Not as impressive as Trout.

 

Great year, wait for Boxy's he suxxxxxxxx... lol, put another feather in your cap Boxbike, Baez says Hi as well. lol

[TheHurl]

John Henry has said that priority number 1 is getting below the luxury tax. Which will lead to the most interesting off season in years. Xander and Porcello free agents. JDM can opt out. Betts due $30Mish in arbitration and holds some legit trade value. So what is the prediction of what direction they go in?

 

I picture them moving Price for zero legit prospect capital (Braves). Betts to the Dodgers. For some odd reason I think they resign Xander

[Spanky__99]

John Henry has said that priority number 1 is getting below the luxury tax. Which will lead to the most interesting off season in years. Xander and Porcello free agents. JDM can opt out. Betts due $30Mish in arbitration and holds some legit trade value. So what is the prediction of what direction they go in?

 

I picture them moving Price for zero legit prospect capital (Braves). Betts to the Dodgers. For some odd reason I think they resign Xander

 

Boston? Oh in general, lol. Random as f***!!!

[TheHurl]

Bogaerts already signed 6/120M.

 

Proving my clairvoyance.

[thatoneguy]

Verlander hit 3000 Ks for his career and 300 Ks for the year in the same game last night. Unreal what he is doing.

[Spanky__99]

Oooh... Maddon got canned, saw that coming after they choked down the stretch. Manager's always the scapegoat.

[RobinThicc]

 

damn, Flaherty is an animal

[Spanky__99]

Brad Ausmus was axed, Maddon expected to replace him, with their ties from the past...

 

[Spanky__99]

Gibbons > Maddon.

 

I was thinking Gibbons might go to the Royals, but he's not interested in rebuild squads. Gibby to the Cubs?

[Laika]

Joe Maddon will be like the late-career Albert Pujols of managers, as far as the Angels are concerned. Not the answer.

[Olerud363]

Joe Maddon will be like the late-career Albert Pujols of managers, as far as the Angels are concerned. Not the answer.

 

Who do you think is a good modern manager? What qualities do you want in a modern manager?? Do you think the manager position even matters, or is he just a guy who listens to the analystics and high performance team??

[Spanky__99]

Who do you think is a good modern manager? What qualities do you want in a modern manager?? Do you think the manager position even matters, or is he just a guy who listens to the analystics and high performance team??

 

One who's a players manager, and the latter, just like Gibby was. Simple.

[Spanky__99]

 

Next wish would be Mark Cuban, buying the franchise, please!

[Spanky__99]

lol

 

https://www.inquirer.com/newsletters/phillies/philadelphia-phillies-gabe-kapler-jake-arrieta-support-carlos-santana-newsletter-20190930.html

[G-Snarls]

Verlander hit 3000 Ks for his career and 300 Ks for the year in the same game last night. Unreal what he is doing.

 

[Spanky__99]

He going to get paid!

 

Report: Nationals extend 7-year offer to Rendon

 

Sept. 30: The Nationals offered Rendon a seven-year contract worth somewhere between $210 and $215 million in early September, according to a report by the Washington Post's Barry Svrluga, and it appears the organization is taking a different route than the one it used in negotiating with Bryce Harper last offseason.

 

While the deal that the Nationals offered Harper included nearly $100 million in deferred salary over several decades -- a factor that may have led Harper to ultimately choose the Phillies -- this offer to Rendon is more like the one the Nationals offered ace Max Scherzer in 2015, per the Post. Scherzer's seven-year, $210 million contract included deferrals that are to be paid off within seven years after his contract runs out.

 

Washington's reported offer certainly shouldn't keep Rendon from exploring the free-agent market after the postseason (he expressed his desire to shop around earlier this summer), particularly since he would share top billing on this offseason's market along with Astros ace Gerrit Cole. But it could signal the Nationals' desire to keep Rendon, a superstar player who is liked by teammates and is a major presence in the local community. The Post reports that Nationals managing principal partner Mark Lerner has checked in personally with Rendon on several occasions since Washington extended this latest offer, seeking to gauge the third baseman's interest and reiterate the club's desire to keep him.

[Orgfiller]

Honestly it's kind of a ******** offer for Rendon. On the surface 7/215 looks nice and about what you'd expect he might get, but when you defer half the salary the contract really becomes 14/215 and certainly there's a team out there that will actually offer a $30MM AAV without having him jump through hoops. Present money is worth more than future money.