glory Old-Timey Member Posted September 20, 2019 Posted September 20, 2019 Are you suggesting the Odor punch should get more? I think it should have gotten more, yes. What did he get, 8 games? He punched the guy in the face, clear as day. He should have gotten a much stiffer suspension. If you're asking whether I think Odor's punch should get more than a legitimate domestic violence incident? No of course not. I was just pointing out the absurdity that Odor punching a man in the face in front of thousands of people on camera got a fairly light suspension while German slapping a woman in the face (assuming that's all that happened) in front of an MLB employee will last for god knows how long. Not saying it's right or wrong, just strange how that works.
Laika Community Moderator Posted September 20, 2019 Posted September 20, 2019 I think it should have gotten more, yes. What did he get, 8 games? He punched the guy in the face, clear as day. He should have gotten a much stiffer suspension. If you're asking whether I think Odor's punch should get more than a legitimate domestic violence incident? No of course not. I was just pointing out the absurdity that Odor punching a man in the face in front of thousands of people on camera got a fairly light suspension while German slapping a woman in the face (assuming that's all that happened) in front of an MLB employee will last for god knows how long. Not saying it's right or wrong, just strange how that works. lol thanks for the chuckle
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted September 20, 2019 Posted September 20, 2019 lol thanks for the chuckle Isn't assault, assault? German's is worse because it's a man hitting a woman? or are we suggesting Odor's was more acceptable because Jose "had it coming to him"?
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted September 20, 2019 Posted September 20, 2019 Isn't assault, assault? German's is worse because it's a man hitting a woman? or are we suggesting Odor's was more acceptable because Jose "had it coming to him"? No, because one incident happened in a game, the other was done in a public street/venue under a DV incident, completely different and is against the law, duh?!
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted September 20, 2019 Posted September 20, 2019 I think it should have gotten more, yes. What did he get, 8 games? He punched the guy in the face, clear as day. He should have gotten a much stiffer suspension. If you're asking whether I think Odor's punch should get more than a legitimate domestic violence incident? No of course not. I was just pointing out the absurdity that Odor punching a man in the face in front of thousands of people on camera got a fairly light suspension while German slapping a woman in the face (assuming that's all that happened) in front of an MLB employee will last for god knows how long. Not saying it's right or wrong, just strange how that works. False equivalency. A man that assaults a wife/girlfriend is probably not going to do it just once, and many times these things end up becoming very serious / fatal. Not the same as a one time baseball field incident.
glory Old-Timey Member Posted September 20, 2019 Posted September 20, 2019 False equivalency. A man that assaults a wife/girlfriend is probably not going to do it just once, and many times these things end up becoming very serious / fatal. Not the same as a one time baseball field incident. Odor assaulted opposing players in the minors too. It's on video. What he did to Bautista was a repeat offense. And Kermit Washington punching Rudy Tomjanovich happened on a basketball court. That didn't make it any less of an assault either. Regardless I'm not comparing DV to fights in a sporting event. I'm just saying when MLB (and other sports) decide to play the police on issues like this, it's just strange how different their views are depending on who punched/slapped who.
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted September 20, 2019 Posted September 20, 2019 No, because one incident happened in a game, the other was done in a public street/venue under a DV incident, completely different and is against the law, duh?! It's kind of fascinating that it's not illegal when it happens on a baseball diamond - even when fighting isn't 'allowed' (like it is in hockey).
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted September 20, 2019 Posted September 20, 2019 It's kind of fascinating that it's not illegal when it happens on a baseball diamond - even when fighting isn't 'allowed' (like it is in hockey). Meh, is what it is. The douchebag seems strong in German.
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted September 20, 2019 Posted September 20, 2019 Odor assaulted opposing players in the minors too. It's on video. What he did to Bautista was a repeat offense. And Kermit Washington punching Rudy Tomjanovich happened on a basketball court. That didn't make it any less of an assault either. Regardless I'm not comparing DV to fights in a sporting event. I'm just saying when MLB (and other sports) decide to play the police on issues like this, it's just strange how different their views are depending on who punched/slapped who. Obviously a lot of it is MLB appeasing segments of its fanbase, who would be much more upset by a player assaulting a wife vs. an on field brawl.
Laika Community Moderator Posted September 20, 2019 Posted September 20, 2019 (edited) Isn't assault, assault? German's is worse because it's a man hitting a woman? or are we suggesting Odor's was more acceptable because Jose "had it coming to him"? lol, yes. it is worse to hit a woman, most of the time. try it - go out there in the world and smack one. odor's punch was much more acceptable because of the setting. it's a professional sport where people get beaned in the head. there is an implied contract to accept some violence. holy s*** Edited September 20, 2019 by Laika
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted September 20, 2019 Posted September 20, 2019 Listen, we as a society have decided that women are to be protected. That is perfectly rational. Literally every animal species on earth protects their females first and foremost. It's like what Bill Burr says, there are plenty of reasons to hit a woman but you just don't do it. We've all probably been in very serious arguments, and not hitting your wife or GF really isn't that hard.
Dick_Pole Old-Timey Member Posted September 20, 2019 Posted September 20, 2019 It's kind of fascinating that it's not illegal when it happens on a baseball diamond - even when fighting isn't 'allowed' (like it is in hockey). Dude do you know how many people would be in prison if every fistfight was illegal? For a fist fight to be a chargeable criminal offense the victim actually has to file a report (I thought this is pretty common knowledge?). Now in domestic violence cases it's pretty much an auto-file because of the history of underreporting these incidents. If a baseball player wanted to charge another one with assault for an incident on the field I'm sure they are legally able to do so. Whether they get coerced by the union to keep it in house is another issue.
Dick_Pole Old-Timey Member Posted September 20, 2019 Posted September 20, 2019 Listen, we as a society have decided that women are to be protected. That is perfectly rational. Literally every animal species on earth protects their females first and foremost. It's like what Bill Burr says, there are plenty of reasons to hit a woman but you just don't do it. We've all probably been in very serious arguments, and not hitting your wife or GF really isn't that hard. Wife or gf yes you want to eliminate that. Hitting a random SJW tard, this should still be okay. They probably identify as gender neutral anyways.
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted September 20, 2019 Posted September 20, 2019 Acuna with his 40th jack last night, youngest ever to the 40-30 club, 3 stolen bags shy of 40... kid's a beast!
BigCecil Old-Timey Member Posted September 20, 2019 Posted September 20, 2019 Hadn't been following the A's closely but watched Hendricks close a tough game. Consistently 98-100 MPH 4S. Hi avg 2019 FB V is 96.4. Way over his career and a couple ticks over the last few years. 13 K/9 WTF happened? I haven't followed him closely this year. Anyone know what he attributes it to? Also, good for him.
BTS Community Moderator Posted September 20, 2019 Posted September 20, 2019 Hadn't been following the A's closely but watched Hendricks close a tough game. Consistently 98-100 MPH 4S. Hi avg 2019 FB V is 96.4. Way over his career and a couple ticks over the last few years. WTF happened? I haven't followed him closely this year. Anyone know what he attributes it to? Also, good for him. Hendriks for Chavez did NOT work out well
BigCecil Old-Timey Member Posted September 20, 2019 Posted September 20, 2019 Hendriks for Chavez did NOT work out well LOL....I wasn't going to say it but that's what I was thinking too.
Barkerfan23 Verified Member Posted September 20, 2019 Posted September 20, 2019 As a paid mlbtv subscriber and a person who grew up in a home with domestic abuse I have no desire to see German employed by the mlb again. Not a single penny of my money should go to this bum.
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted September 20, 2019 Posted September 20, 2019 Hadn't been following the A's closely but watched Hendricks close a tough game. Consistently 98-100 MPH 4S. Hi avg 2019 FB V is 96.4. Way over his career and a couple ticks over the last few years. 13 K/9 WTF happened? I haven't followed him closely this year. Anyone know what he attributes it to? Also, good for him. A workout routine and long toss, lol. https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/athletics/how-liam-hendriks-turned-bullpen-star-one-year-after-being-dfad
Todd Van Anus Verified Member Posted September 20, 2019 Posted September 20, 2019 Pretty amazing Rizzo was in the lineup last night.
bones10 Old-Timey Member Posted September 21, 2019 Posted September 21, 2019 Cubs are certified choke artists, absolutely brutal. Brewers are red-hot but not that strong of a team and getting into the playoffs this year, if only the jays were in the NL.
glory Old-Timey Member Posted September 22, 2019 Posted September 22, 2019 Calling it now, Cubs are going to trade for Giles in the winter.
Abomination Old-Timey Member Posted September 22, 2019 Posted September 22, 2019 Calling it now, Cubs are going to trade for Giles in the winter. Wonder what they'd pay us to swap Kimbrel and Giles?
Dick_Pole Old-Timey Member Posted September 22, 2019 Posted September 22, 2019 Cubs are certified choke artists, absolutely brutal. Brewers are red-hot but not that strong of a team and getting into the playoffs this year, if only the jays were in the NL. NL has been the better division this year. The AL's playoff race is so strong because there are so many bad teams to run up a good record against.
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted September 22, 2019 Posted September 22, 2019 As a paid mlbtv subscriber and a person who grew up in a home with domestic abuse I have no desire to see German employed by the mlb again. Not a single penny of my money should go to this bum. Well, I guess your personal experience just supercede everyone else. Domingo German is cancelled.
Abomination Old-Timey Member Posted September 22, 2019 Posted September 22, 2019 Rays DFA'd Kean Wong. We should put in a claim. Why?
Orgfiller Old-Timey Member Posted September 22, 2019 Posted September 22, 2019 Why? Because he can play all over the infield and Ureña really sucks? He can't be any worse, is just 24 and had a decent year in AAA. Why not honestly?
Orgfiller Old-Timey Member Posted September 22, 2019 Posted September 22, 2019 Darvish's unreal second half continues (culminates?) with another excellent 6 IP, 0BB, 10 K performance.
Abomination Old-Timey Member Posted September 22, 2019 Posted September 22, 2019 Because he can play all over the infield and Ureña really sucks? He can't be any worse, is just 24 and had a decent year in AAA. Why not honestly? Nothing to see here imo. He BABIP'd his way to middling numbers this year in AAA. We have enough clogging up the 40 man. No reason to add someone like him for the final week.
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