Krylian Old-Timey Member Posted July 19, 2018 Posted July 19, 2018 Happ Granderson Clippard Axford Loup Are all getting traded at the deadline 100 percent. Probably nets us 1 legit prospect and a handful of lottery tickets. 100%? All of them? Hope you're right. Don't think you will be. 100% they "should" all get dealt though.
glory Old-Timey Member Posted July 19, 2018 Posted July 19, 2018 Yeah I think we have to prepare for something like McKinney and a low minors lotto ticket from the Yankees, or equivalent from another team. Rentals are not highly valued anymore.
Krylian Old-Timey Member Posted July 19, 2018 Posted July 19, 2018 I think there would be interest in Oh and Tepera - both of these guys are good enough to be used in important spots in the playoffs as a 6th-inning guy or something. And both would be around next season too. I could see Loup maybe returning some team's 40th best prospect or something if the right team needs a lefty. It's hard to see anyone wanting Clippard, and almost certainly nobody will want Axford. Maybe I'm biased because Clippard doesn't ever really look good out there even though his results have been alright, but I really can't see acquiring him with the intention of using him in the playoffs. Agreed. Clippard looks physically awkward. Doesn't "look" like an athlete. Looks like someone you dragged out of their mothers basement playing Fortnite. Move him.
SaskJaysFan_2 Verified Member Posted July 19, 2018 Posted July 19, 2018 If Teoscar hits the ball hard enough to overcome his approach issues, then Frazier surely has a chance. He's probably a tick better than Teoscar at nearly everything, right? I think Teoscar would make a pretty decent DH/spare OF. #cutMorales
Krylian Old-Timey Member Posted July 19, 2018 Posted July 19, 2018 I'm thinking that if we really are seriously pushing for the Yanks, Phillies, or whoever's better prospects we may very well see one of our own prospects going with Happ to sweeten the pot. I can see Biggio or Smith being packaged (selling high) with a Happ for a better prospect coming our way.
Abomination Old-Timey Member Posted July 19, 2018 Posted July 19, 2018 I'm thinking that if we really are seriously pushing for the Yanks, Phillies, or whoever's better prospects we may very well see one of our own prospects going with Happ to sweeten the pot. I can see Biggio or Smith being packaged (selling high) with a Happ for a better prospect coming our way. Teams just don't seem to do that, ever really.
BigBounceyBlueBalls Old-Timey Member Posted July 19, 2018 Posted July 19, 2018 Thought it might be useful to have a thread dedicated to what I hope resembles a firesale in the next two weeks. Sold Steve Pearce -> Santiago Espinal Pending Free Agents Josh Donaldson J.A. Happ Marco Estrada Curtis Granderson Tyler Clippard John Axford Aaron Loup Other Trade Chips Roberto Osuna (two arb seasons remaining) Ryan Tepera (three arbs seasons remaining) Justin Smoak (6M team option in 2019) Yangervis Solarte (5.5M team option in 2019, 8M team option in 2020) Seung-hwan Oh (2.5M team option in 2019) I think Pillar fits in here as well too!!!
Jonn Old-Timey Member Posted July 19, 2018 Posted July 19, 2018 I think Pillar fits in here as well too!!! If he didn't get hurt for 6-8 weeks maybe. We won't see him until September at the earliest.
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted July 19, 2018 Posted July 19, 2018 Hey, f***-faces breath... you have ZERO inclination, on either teams talks, nor needs.
Abomination Old-Timey Member Posted July 20, 2018 Posted July 20, 2018 On the Cubs - Cards broadcast, they said the current thinking among GMs is that there will be a ton of good relievers available in the next 2 weeks for simple salary dumps.
Jonn Old-Timey Member Posted July 20, 2018 Posted July 20, 2018 On the Cubs - Cards broadcast, they said the current thinking among GMs is that there will be a ton of good relievers available in the next 2 weeks for simple salary dumps. Well that could work in our favour as well. In recent years we have showed that we are willing to take on salary to get a better prospect learn. People are quick to forget. But when we traded for Liriano for Teoscar Hernandez and took on the remainder of Nori Aoki's salary. So if teams are looking to dump money. We can both sell and take on money for better prospects.
mphenhef Verified Member Posted July 20, 2018 Posted July 20, 2018 I'm thinking that if we really are seriously pushing for the Yanks, Phillies, or whoever's better prospects we may very well see one of our own prospects going with Happ to sweeten the pot. I can see Biggio or Smith being packaged (selling high) with a Happ for a better prospect coming our way. This is interesting. I was in Portland last weekend to see the Fisher Cats play the Sea Dogs (Red sox AA team) and there was a guy there scouting wearing a Yankees hat. I couldn't really figure it out as I was thinking they wouldn't be looking at our minor league players in trades and they definitely wouldn't be trading with the Bosox. This might explain it though. Edit: The thought also occured to me it could just be a prospect writer wearing a yank's hat. But why scout a game with no Bo and no Vlad as a writer.
tazsub3 Verified Member Posted July 21, 2018 Posted July 21, 2018 This is interesting. I was in Portland last weekend to see the Fisher Cats play the Sea Dogs (Red sox AA team) and there was a guy there scouting wearing a Yankees hat. I couldn't really figure it out as I was thinking they wouldn't be looking at our minor league players in trades and they definitely wouldn't be trading with the Bosox. This might explain it though. Edit: The thought also occured to me it could just be a prospect writer wearing a yank's hat. But why scout a game with no Bo and no Vlad as a writer. As said above, this management has shown they are willing to buy talent, even while sellers at deadline. Lariano comes to mind, with the prospects comning, then lariano to teoscar trade as well with aoki coming the other way too
glory Old-Timey Member Posted July 23, 2018 Posted July 23, 2018 Phillies after Granderson and previously linked to Happ. I doubt Grandy by himself will net anything beyond a C level prospect, but maybe combining him with Happ and maybe a RP is more appealing.
Pendleton Old-Timey Member Posted July 23, 2018 Posted July 23, 2018 I'd take on Altherr to see if he can bounce back to last year's form
BTS Community Moderator Posted July 23, 2018 Author Posted July 23, 2018 Lots of interesting pitching in the low minors for Philly.
Slade Old-Timey Member Posted July 23, 2018 Posted July 23, 2018 Wonder if they would be willing to trade a guy like Kevin Gowdy who hasn't pitched since 2016.
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted July 23, 2018 Posted July 23, 2018 Wonder if they would be willing to trade a guy like Kevin Gowdy who hasn't pitched since 2016. Is this Abom's other account?
John_Havok Old-Timey Member Posted July 23, 2018 Posted July 23, 2018 It's interesting they would be considering a left handed OF given that they're entire outfield is already Left handed aside from the guy they just sent down (Altherr). Not sure how this helps them. Would think they'd be looking at Adam Jones instead of Grandy
sdyment Verified Member Posted July 23, 2018 Posted July 23, 2018 Chris rowley claimed by TEX per Mlbtr. Why? Was he in the majors? Or making room on 40 man for trade?
John_Havok Old-Timey Member Posted July 23, 2018 Posted July 23, 2018 Chris rowley claimed by TEX per Mlbtr. Why? Was he in the majors? Or making room on 40 man for trade? Yeah he was called up when Borucki was sent down. He gave up the salami to Bogaerts in Boston. Jays DFA him and we're hoping to sneak him through waivers to create a spot on the 40 man. Not really anything to worry about, he had a decent ERA in AAA but his underlying numbers were not good.
sdyment Verified Member Posted July 23, 2018 Posted July 23, 2018 Yeah he was called up when Borucki was sent down. He gave up the salami to Bogaerts in Boston. Jays DFA him and we're hoping to sneak him through waivers to create a spot on the 40 man. Not really anything to worry about, he had a decent ERA in AAA but his underlying numbers were not good. I guess my point was... what’s the corresponding move?
Abomination Old-Timey Member Posted July 23, 2018 Posted July 23, 2018 Is this Abom's other account? I don't have extra accounts, because I don't say things that I'm too scared to post using my main account.
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted July 23, 2018 Posted July 23, 2018 I guess my point was... what’s the corresponding move? After they designated Rowley, Urena was called up for bench depth for 2 days, optioned to Buffalo for LGJ whom came off the DL.
Deadpool Old-Timey Member Posted July 23, 2018 Posted July 23, 2018 Chris rowley claimed by TEX per Mlbtr. Why? Was he in the majors? Or making room on 40 man for trade? Rowley was an interesting story, but sadly, that's about it.
John_Havok Old-Timey Member Posted July 23, 2018 Posted July 23, 2018 After they designated Rowley, Urena was called up for bench depth for 2 days, optioned to Buffalo for LGJ whom came off the DL. Yup, and likely LGJR will go down when Borucki comes back up.
Orgfiller Old-Timey Member Posted July 23, 2018 Posted July 23, 2018 Yup, and likely LGJR will go down when Borucki comes back up. I'm pretty sure they'll just demote/DFA Petricka or Santos instead of Gurriel. He doesn't benefit from AAA anymore and no one cares about losing either of the other two guys.
John_Havok Old-Timey Member Posted July 23, 2018 Posted July 23, 2018 I'm pretty sure they'll just demote/DFA Petricka or Santos instead of Gurriel. He doesn't benefit from AAA anymore and no one cares about losing either of the other two guys. Yeah, also a possibility
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