Is the Rogers brain trust holding back Shatkins from a total rebuild?

[Jimcanuck]

True to a point and I'm certainly no economist, it just seems to me that the poverty class in capitalist economies are much larger than they should be

 

It is. IMO, no one employed should be living in poverty, meaning the poverty class should be consistent with the unemployment rate.

[THANOS]

The haters are at SN, not here.

 

[Maico450]

If only this superfast and booming economy actually benefitted anyone other than the rich. Household debt is still enormous and 15% of people live under the poverty line. That's not exactly good.

 

That's the American way.

8 years ago I bought a house in Clearwater, about 2 miles from Dunedin stadium.

At that time, unemployment was rampant. Homeless were every where. The shopping malls were empty. Not just a lack of shoppers, No Stores.

Whole malls just empty. Car dealerships closed up. Highway construction at a stop. The people living there were skinny. Empty houses everywhere.

This winter, most of the malls are back full of stores. Highway construction has been completed. Car dealerships booming. The public is fat. Houses full of renters.

There are HELP WANTED signs everywhere.

Living the American Dream.

[Jimcanuck]

That's the American way.

8 years ago I bought a house in Clearwater, about 2 miles from Dunedin stadium.

At that time, unemployment was rampant. Homeless were every where. The shopping malls were empty. Not just a lack of shoppers, No Stores.

Whole malls just empty. Car dealerships closed up. Highway construction at a stop. The people living there were skinny. Empty houses everywhere.

This winter, most of the malls are back full of stores. Highway construction has been completed. Car dealerships booming. The public is fat. Houses full of renters.

There are HELP WANTED signs everywhere.

Living the American Dream.

 

whats your investment return on the house at this time

[Brownie19]

That's the American way.

8 years ago I bought a house in Clearwater, about 2 miles from Dunedin stadium.

At that time, unemployment was rampant. Homeless were every where. The shopping malls were empty. Not just a lack of shoppers, No Stores.

Whole malls just empty. Car dealerships closed up. Highway construction at a stop. The people living there were skinny. Empty houses everywhere.

This winter, most of the malls are back full of stores. Highway construction has been completed. Car dealerships booming. The public is fat. Houses full of renters.

There are HELP WANTED signs everywhere.

Living the American Dream.

 

How do you like the Clearwater area? I haven't spent much time there, but that location looks perfect for retirement.

 

My parents are in Port Charlotte and it's the same. They can't get enough staff in restaurants. You'll go in and half the tables are open, but you have to wait because they don't have enough servers. Most restaurants now have to increase pay for servers and cooks or they'll go somewhere else (so much demand).

[G-Snarls]

Ah I see.

 

Also, the term "Shatkins" isn't meant to be derogatory, though it may appear to be at first glance and may be coloring your feelings of how we talk about the front office

 

It was just a term people came up with when we got a new GM and AGM (Shapiro/Atkins) at almost the same time and no one knew who was really doing the work and so they got blended together into one awkward name

[Maico450]

whats your investment return on the house at this time

 

There is a lot to that. I bought when exchange was at par, and prices at 50% of what they were 2 years prior.

Since then, prices are up 250%. Exchange rate is about 25%.

So that sounds close to 300%.

But, if I sell, I would have to pay a 30% foreign ownership tax.

And then I would maybe want to rebuy, at the new higher prices. So then I,m screwed.

So it only sounds good when you sell.

[Maico450]

How do you like the Clearwater area? I haven't spent much time there, but that location looks perfect for retirement.

 

My parents are in Port Charlotte and it's the same. They can't get enough staff in restaurants. You'll go in and half the tables are open, but you have to wait because they don't have enough servers. Most restaurants now have to increase pay for servers and cooks or they'll go somewhere else (so much demand).

 

I really like Clearwater, there is so much to do, without going too far. Dunedin is more quaint, but smaller.

That whole area, Dunedin to St. Pete, is so quick to get around once you know the tourist routes to stay off of.

If you like beaches, Clearwater is the best. Restaurants to die for. Very good weather, No Hurricanes.........

[Jimcanuck]

I really like Clearwater, there is so much to do, without going too far. Dunedin is more quaint, but smaller.

That whole area, Dunedin to St. Pete, is so quick to get around once you know the tourist routes to stay off of.

If you like beaches, Clearwater is the best. Restaurants to die for. Very good weather, No Hurricanes.........

 

isn't there also an island park off the coast just north of Clearwater accessible only by boat with amazing beach?

 

Looked it up.. Caladesi state park.... have u been

[Maico450]

isn't there also an island park off the coast just north of Tampa accessible only by boat with amazing beach?

 

That's Caladesi Island off Dunedin. Its a state park. But no, the beach there is narrow and partly rocky.

Clearwater has miles of 100 yard wide, deep white sand. It is regularly voted Best Beach In USA.

Kind of cool because the Dolphins swim up and down the beaches.

Tons of bikinis.

[Terminator]

Mods

[Jimcanuck]

That's Caladesi Island off Dunedin. Its a state park. But no, the beach there is narrow and partly rocky.

Clearwater has miles of 100 yard wide, deep white sand. It is regularly voted Best Beach In USA.

Kind of cool because the Dolphins swim up and down the beaches.

Tons of bikinis.

 

Ya i was at clearwater 3 years ago.... great beach, water gets a little deep fairly quickly so was not ideal for my then 4 year old

[Maico450]

isn't there also an island park off the coast just north of Clearwater accessible only by boat with amazing beach?

 

Looked it up.. Caladesi state park.... have u been

 

Its OK if you are looking for privacy. People don't go there for the beach, but to roam around through the treed pathways. There is a tour that the Park Rangers take you.

[Brownie19]

I really like Clearwater, there is so much to do, without going too far. Dunedin is more quaint, but smaller.

That whole area, Dunedin to St. Pete, is so quick to get around once you know the tourist routes to stay off of.

If you like beaches, Clearwater is the best. Restaurants to die for. Very good weather, No Hurricanes.........

 

I assume it's really popular/busy area - full of snowbirds?