Blue Jays Sign Jaime Garcia

[Terminator]

If Sanchez goes on DL again who are you calling up?

Ryan Borucki?

 

Move Biagini to the rotation at that point I suppose.

[tazsub3]

Move Biagini to the rotation at that point I suppose.

 

or they pick up another arm for AAA and have him as an option.

[Krylian]

If Sanchez goes on DL again who are you calling up?

Ryan Borucki?

 

If Borucki has a strong start to the season I'd like to see him given a legit shot if there's an opportunity.

[Abomination]

If Sanchez goes on DL again who are you calling up?

Ryan Borucki?

 

I suspect we'll see a bunch of filler signings in the next few weeks to fill out Buffalo.

[Terminator]

More details on the Garcia contract.

 

[ValiantJaysFan]

Was this run by Stroman first?

[Krylian]

Was this run by Stroman first?

 

They used the extra money that he didn't get in his arbitration to top up Garcia.

[Orgfiller]

More details on the Garcia contract.

 

 

I like this a lot. Garcia is an injury prone pitcher and is usually quite solid when healthy, if he's pitching 170-180+ innings for us then that must mean he's doing a pretty good job so he's making up for the added $500k incentives.

[Jonn]

This is a weird way to spell Lance Lynn

[CraigG]

This is decent, mainly I'm glad I don't have to watch Biagini as a starter... hopefully.

[AGL_91]

I hope they start Joe in Buffalo and see if the set up role figures it self out before moving him back to the pen. But at the same time you don’t wanna mess with a guy to much and wreck him like NYY did with Joba.

[SaskJaysFan_2]

I love this deal. He may be the best #5 in the AL.

 

I think this means Biagini is not stretched our during ST, but instead moves right to the 'pen, where Gibby really wants him.

 

This is a big win/win.

[Spanky99]

Not bad, was hoping for Cobb or Lynn. They'll keep the Beeg stretched out and use him for multiple innings as they have in the past.

[BlueRocky]

Anyone know if Jays are still behind Angels in projections?

[bones10]

Anyone know if Jays are still behind Angels in projections?

 

Fangraphs had us at 85 wins and Angels at 86 prior.

 

In a perfect world with Biagini going to the pen I think the Jays should project higher, although I can't say i'm personally too optimistic. Just hoping for a fun season unlike last year.

 

https://www.fangraphs.com/depthcharts.aspx?position=Standings

[Maahfaace]

Fangraphs had us at 85 wins and Angels at 86 prior.

 

In a perfect world with Biagini going to the pen I think the Jays should project higher, although I can't say i'm personally too optimistic. Just hoping for a fun season unlike last year.

 

https://www.fangraphs.com/depthcharts.aspx?position=Standings

 

Projected for a top 5 offense in MLB? This is nonsense.

[bones10]

Projected for a top 5 offense in MLB? This is nonsense.

 

The fWAR breakdown per position : https://www.fangraphs.com/depthcharts.aspx?position=ALL&teamid=14

[The Iceman]

Nice deal. Love Shapiro

 

GM signs players. Presidents oversee.

Why not give credit to Atkins the GM for the signing?

When the Jays traded for Price, Tulo, Revere, Lowe were you praising AA or Beeston??

[jays4life19]

GM signs players. Presidents oversee.

Why not give credit to Atkins the GM for the signing?

When the Jays traded for Price, Tulo, Revere, Lowe were you praising AA or Beeston??

 

The dynamic is a little different though. Shapiro is a lot more involved in baseball ops, which is one of the reasons why AA wanted to leave.

 

Atkins should get credit though too, Shatkins is doing some great work here.

[Angrioter]

GM signs players. Presidents oversee.

Why not give credit to Atkins the GM for the signing?

When the Jays traded for Price, Tulo, Revere, Lowe were you praising AA or Beeston??

 

Master of puppets bro!!

 

 

Atkins is a YES guy

[metafour]

The dynamic is a little different though. Shapiro is a lot more involved in baseball ops, which is one of the reasons why AA wanted to leave.

 

Atkins should get credit though too, Shatkins is doing some great work here.

 

Shapiro let Antonelli make a blockbuster trade in Cleveland that he admitted he wouldn't have done, yet you think he's here making all the calls to sign Jaime Garcia to a one year deal? Yeah, sorry, but it didn't happen.

 

"More involved" doesn't mean what you think it does. Most Presidents are "more involved" than Beeston was. By the end of his tenure, Beeston was an outlier, not the "norm". Very few teams have Presidents that are completely devoid of any duty in actual baseball decisions.

[Deadpool]

The fWAR breakdown per position : https://www.fangraphs.com/depthcharts.aspx?position=ALL&teamid=14

 

I would be absolutely thrilled if only 3 of our players ended up as negative WAR guys, and guys who shouldn't see a tonne of time at that...

[glory]

The jays front office seems more collaborative. According to Atkins, Cherington worked with Garcia's agent on this deal. I'm sure Atkins, Cherington, LaCava, Tinnish, etc, do a lot of grunt work, and maybe Shapiro too, to get deals done, just that Shapiro has the final say.

 

A random homeless man has probably done more work in the past year than Beeston did in his last tenure with the Jays.

[bones10]

I would be absolutely thrilled if only 3 of our players ended up as negative WAR guys, and guys who shouldn't see a tonne of time at that...

 

is that really outrageous? who do you got as negative WAR players? Pearce and Morales for sure and the bullpen is a crapshoot anyways.

[jays4life19]

https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/blue-jays-continue-sneaky-good-offseason-with-jaime-garcia/

[Captain Adama]

is that really outrageous? who do you got as negative WAR players? Pearce and Morales for sure and the bullpen is a crapshoot anyways.

 

Moraled is likely, but if Pearce is at least somewhat healthier this year, chances are he's easily above replacement level.

[Sammy225]

Moraled is likely, but if Pearce is at least somewhat healthier this year, chances are he's easily above replacement level.

 

I think he is likely to be Platooned with Grandy and take the piss out of the lefties

[bones10]

Moraled is likely, but if Pearce is at least somewhat healthier this year, chances are he's easily above replacement level.

 

true, should be an interesting team almost feels like moneyball a bit.

[gruber92]

Shapiro let Antonelli make a blockbuster trade in Cleveland that he admitted he wouldn't have done, yet you think he's here making all the calls to sign Jaime Garcia to a one year deal? Yeah, sorry, but it didn't happen.

 

"More involved" doesn't mean what you think it does. Most Presidents are "more involved" than Beeston was. By the end of his tenure, Beeston was an outlier, not the "norm". Very few teams have Presidents that are completely devoid of any duty in actual baseball decisions.

 

Beeston had plenty of influence on the Dickey deal.

[Captain Adama]

Beeston had plenty of influence on the Dickey deal.

 

Shocker.