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Spanky__99 FCL Blue Jays

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Deal not that good without May but they did get a decent return for a 2 month rental.

 

It's okay, but nothing I thought he'd return. Stat scouting the 3 after Diaz have good numbers, but... meh. Teams are legit keeping good spects close to their chest.

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Even though he's not a household name yet, I think Kremer's legit.

 

Great numbers. Blue Birds aren't getting as much as I thought, but lottery tickets.

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Does this change what the expected return is for Happ? I know one's a position player and one's a pitcher, but I can't see this improving the level of quality that we can expect to get back for Happ.
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Does this change what the expected return is for Happ? I know one's a position player and one's a pitcher, but I can't see this improving the level of quality that we can expect to get back for Happ.

 

Neither do I, we'll see. Young lotto tickets seem more probable, which isn't awful of course. Thought the take for Machado would be much better.

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Does this change what the expected return is for Happ? I know one's a position player and one's a pitcher, but I can't see this improving the level of quality that we can expect to get back for Happ.

 

As I said before go with 18-19 year old lottery tickets in the low minors with upside. Contending teams may not value them as much due to how far away they are, and the Jays can afford to wait on them. Samad Taylor was a good return for Smith as he's very young with some upside. Luis Medina from the Yankees for example (if they are willing to move him) would make more sense than a lower ceiling older player closer to the bigs. The Jays need upside and to hit a home run on a trade return. The Espinal types are good depth pieces and maybe they turn into something useful, but he'll never be a star. Go for the home run even if there's more risk.

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As I said before go with 18-19 year old lottery tickets in the low minors with upside. Contending teams may not value them as much due to how far away they are, and the Jays can afford to wait on them. Samad Taylor was a good return for Smith as he's very young with some upside. Luis Medina from the Yankees for example (if they are willing to move him) would make more sense than a lower ceiling older player closer to the bigs. The Jays need upside and to hit a home run on a trade return. The Espinal types are good depth pieces and maybe they turn into something useful, but he'll never be a star. Go for the home run even if there's more risk.

 

Espinal's a lottery ticket, same s***, just saying... but that was for a few months of a platoon OF. You'd expect higher ceiling kids with pitching going the other way, or so I think, lol. It'd be smart for JD to refuse a QO and sign at 20+ to rebuild his value.

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True, but this was baseball's time to take some spotlight with no other major sports happening, and one trade (albeit a huge one) completely killed it. There was more talk of Hader than baseball itself (the AS game, the second half, the Machado trade, etc).

 

Mainstream just doesn't care about baseball anymore. That's why I sympathize with Manfred a bit, but he's just the wrong guy to facilitate the changes the league needs.

 

I completely agree and I'm not sure anyone is the man to to the job. Baseball needs to appeal to non baseball fans...that is what baseball fans have trouble understanding. Maybe the Stroman's and Harper's of the world are the ones to market.

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Has anyone seen this Trout vs. Manfred situation? My God, Manfred is a moron.

 

Manfred apparently threw Trout under the bus in an interview about his marketability and the Angels had to release a statement backing Trout up.

 

:confused: Do tell, frendo?:D

 

King? I ain't searching twitter, bro?

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I completely agree and I'm not sure anyone is the man to to the job. Baseball needs to appeal to non baseball fans...that is what baseball fans have trouble understanding. Maybe the Stroman's and Harper's of the world are the ones to market.

 

Maybe just market all ballplayers from all over their league, quirky s***, aside from skill... pranks/diet/behind the scenes s***, hobbies, etc... stop trying to be so f***ing formal and squeaky clean show the life of a BP, I don't know, edited obviously. f*** all the Democrats! They don't like sport anyhow.

 

I used to love TWIB nationally televised.

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Maybe just market all ballplayers from all over their league, quirky s***, aside from skill... pranks/diet/behind the scenes s***, hobbies, etc... stop trying to be so f***ing formal and squeaky clean show the life of a BP, I don't know, edited obviously. f*** all the Democrats! They don't like sport anyhow.

 

I used to love TWIB nationally televised.

 

We need more ballplayers who live in a van down by the river...

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We need more ballplayers who live in a van down by the river...

 

Eating a steady diet of government cheese.

P2F Toronto Blue Jays

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Brad Hand to the Indians. No word on the return yet.
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Wow they traded their #1 prospect for a reliever (a really good one, but still).

 

FU Osuna for getting into legal trouble.

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Wow they traded their #1 prospect for a reliever (a really good one, but still).

 

FU Osuna for getting into legal trouble.

 

If Osuna wasn't in legal trouble we still wouldn't be looking to trade him, he's only 23.....

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Adam Cimber also to Cleveland. And yes, for Mejia. I knew he'd get dealt this deadline, but expected him to go in a DeGrom or Archer deal.
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If Osuna wasn't in legal trouble we still wouldn't be looking to trade him, he's only 23.....

 

what does his age have to do with anything?

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