TwistedLogic Old-Timey Member Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 (edited) http://i.imgur.com/BFKtkhD.png Blue Jays Recap - Day 2 Draft Order: Rounds 11-40 1. Minnesota Twins 2. Cincinnati Reds 3. San Diego Padres 4. Tampa Bay Rays 5. Atlanta Braves 6. Oakland Athletics 7. Arizona Diamondbacks 8. Philadelphia Phillies 9. Milwaukee Brewers 10. Los Angeles Angels 11. Colorado Rockies 12. Chicago White Sox 13. Pittsburgh Pirates 14. Miami Marlins 15. Kansas City Royals 16. Houston Astros 17. New York Yankees 18. Seattle Mariners 19. St. Louis Cardinals 20. Detroit Tigers 21. San Francisco Giants 22. New York Mets 23. Baltimore Orioles 24. Toronto Blue Jays 25. Los Angeles Dodgers 26. Boston Red Sox 27. Cleveland Indians 28. Washington Nationals 29. Texas Rangers 30. Chicago Cubs Day 3 Blue Jays Selections Round 11 - Pick 339: Donnie Sellers (BA: 260) Round 12 - Pick 369: Matt Shannon Round 13 - Pick 399: Brody Rodning (BA: 484) Round 14 - Pick 429: P.K. Morris Round 15 - Pick 459: Ryan Noda Round 16 - Pick 489: Ty Tice Round 17 - Pick 519: Kobie Russell Round 18 - Pick 549: Jordan Barrett Round 19 - Pick 579: Cordell Dunn (BA: 415) Round 20 - Pick 609: Tanner Kirwer Round 21 - Pick 639: Turner Larkins Round 22 - Pick 669: Gunner Halter Round 23 - Pick 699: Daniel Ritcheson (MLB: 131 | BA: 187) Round 24 - Pick 729: Colin Brockhouse Round 25 - Pick 759: Cooper Davis (BA: 368) Round 26 - Pick 789: DJ Neal Round 27 - Pick 819: Sam Weatherly (BA: 350) Round 28 - Pick 849: Davis Schneider (BA: 463) Round 29 - Pick 879: Joe DiBenedetto Round 30 - Pick 909: Reilly Johnson Round 31 - Pick 939: Graham Spraker Round 32 - Pick 969: Jacob Condra-Bogan Round 33 - Pick 999: Matthew Gunter Round 34 - Pick 1029: Maverik Buffo Round 35 - Pick 1059: Brandon Polizzi Round 36 - Pick 1089: Jonathan Cheshire Round 37 - Pick 1119: Justin Watts Round 38 - Pick 1149: Marcus Reyes Round 39 - Pick 1179: Ben Fariss (BA: 489) Round 40 - Pick 1209: Sean Ross Useful Links Draft Order Draft Tracker MLB.com Top 200 Baseball America Top 500 FanGraphs ScoutBoard Top 100 Edited June 14, 2017 by TwistedLogic
TwistedLogic Old-Timey Member Posted June 14, 2017 Author Posted June 14, 2017 (edited) http://i.imgur.com/hLUxpbW.png [center][color="#000000"][b][u][color="#0000FF"]RANK NAME POS [/color][/u] [color="#A9A9A9"]001 Hunter Greene RHP/SS 002 Kyle Wright RHP 003 Brendan McKay LHP/1B 004 MacKenzie Gore LHP 005 Royce Lewis SS/OF 006 J.B. 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Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 11-40 out of bonus pool. Time to steal some expensive hard signings high Schooler
Grant77 Old-Timey Member Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 11-40 out of bonus pool. Time to steal some expensive hard signings high Schooler I don't think we have the money available, but Shane Drohan is a great target if we have some. He already throws 92 from the left side with some projectability and has a plus curve.
KevinGregg Verified Member Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 BA obviously doesn't represent the real draft boards teams are using, but isn't it a little strange that their 38, 39, and 41 best overall players are still not drafted? Why are teams passing on those guys?
GeorgiaPeach Verified Member Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 Donnie Sellers #260 on BA's Top 500 Wake Forest recruited the High Point, N.C., native as an outfielder, but when Sellers broke his wrist in his freshman fall and couldn't hit, the Demon Deacons decided to take advantage of his arm strength and use him out of the bullpen. Sellers spent his freshman and sophomore years in that role, developing into an effective late-inning option his sophomore year. This spring, Wake Forest plugged Sellers into the weekend rotation, where he got off to a strong start before running into inconsistency. Sellers has gone 3-5 with a 4.34 ERA in his first full year of starting, showing flashes of dominance at times. Sellers can touch as high as 96 mph with plus running movement, but his fastball lives more comfortably at 90-92. He added a low-80s changeup to his repertoire coming into the spring to prepare for multiple trips through batting orders, and the pitch has average potential. Though inconsistent, Seller's slider can show hard and tight break and be a swing-and-miss pitch when it's on. A true athlete, Sellers has appeared in the outfield for Wake Forest when needed. He has a slight crouch to his delivery—much like the pitchers at Virginia generally use—and uses his legs well. Sellers has learned to pitch this year as opposed to just throwing, but his stuff still does play up in shorter stints. To maximize his effectiveness, Sellers best projects as a reliever at the next level.
LGBJ29 Verified Member Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 BA obviously doesn't represent the real draft boards teams are using, but isn't it a little strange that their 38, 39, and 41 best overall players are still not drafted? Why are teams passing on those guys? Signability and contract demands. Those guys are almost surely going back to college. The only chance they had at signing was if they were taken in the first round. It would basically just be throwing a pick away at this point
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 BA obviously doesn't represent the real draft boards teams are using, but isn't it a little strange that their 38, 39, and 41 best overall players are still not drafted? Why are teams passing on those guys? signability. Likely told team they won't sign.
LGBJ29 Verified Member Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 Donnie Sellers #260 on BA's Top 500 Wake Forest recruited the High Point, N.C., native as an outfielder, but when Sellers broke his wrist in his freshman fall and couldn't hit, the Demon Deacons decided to take advantage of his arm strength and use him out of the bullpen. Sellers spent his freshman and sophomore years in that role, developing into an effective late-inning option his sophomore year. This spring, Wake Forest plugged Sellers into the weekend rotation, where he got off to a strong start before running into inconsistency. Sellers has gone 3-5 with a 4.34 ERA in his first full year of starting, showing flashes of dominance at times. Sellers can touch as high as 96 mph with plus running movement, but his fastball lives more comfortably at 90-92. He added a low-80s changeup to his repertoire coming into the spring to prepare for multiple trips through batting orders, and the pitch has average potential. Though inconsistent, Seller's slider can show hard and tight break and be a swing-and-miss pitch when it's on. A true athlete, Sellers has appeared in the outfield for Wake Forest when needed. He has a slight crouch to his delivery—much like the pitchers at Virginia generally use—and uses his legs well. Sellers has learned to pitch this year as opposed to just throwing, but his stuff still does play up in shorter stints. To maximize his effectiveness, Sellers best projects as a reliever at the next level. Whats with the scouting report? Is this who you're hoping for or something? Edit: didnt even see we were already in the 12th round lol
Laika Community Moderator Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 Donnie Sellers #260 on BA's Top 500 Wake Forest recruited the High Point, N.C., native as an outfielder, but when Sellers broke his wrist in his freshman fall and couldn't hit, the Demon Deacons decided to take advantage of his arm strength and use him out of the bullpen. Sellers spent his freshman and sophomore years in that role, developing into an effective late-inning option his sophomore year. This spring, Wake Forest plugged Sellers into the weekend rotation, where he got off to a strong start before running into inconsistency. Sellers has gone 3-5 with a 4.34 ERA in his first full year of starting, showing flashes of dominance at times. Sellers can touch as high as 96 mph with plus running movement, but his fastball lives more comfortably at 90-92. He added a low-80s changeup to his repertoire coming into the spring to prepare for multiple trips through batting orders, and the pitch has average potential. Though inconsistent, Seller's slider can show hard and tight break and be a swing-and-miss pitch when it's on. A true athlete, Sellers has appeared in the outfield for Wake Forest when needed. He has a slight crouch to his delivery—much like the pitchers at Virginia generally use—and uses his legs well. Sellers has learned to pitch this year as opposed to just throwing, but his stuff still does play up in shorter stints. To maximize his effectiveness, Sellers best projects as a reliever at the next level. Sellers seems pretty interesting. Apparently he's never started before this season (closer in high school) so you have to take his numbers with a grain of salt. Seems like he could potentially have a bag of average or fringe-plus pitches. Twitter videos have him touching 95, so it's probably a plus fastball in relief at least. Athleticism is underrated in pitchers. It's hard to quantify how important it can be in development.
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 Jays take Matt Shannon in the 12th Round. My only hope is he's not related to John Shannon.
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 Sellers seems pretty interesting. Apparently he's never started before this season (closer in high school) so you have to take his numbers with a grain of salt. Seems like he could potentially have a bag of average or fringe-plus pitches. Twitter videos have him touching 95, so it's probably a plus fastball in relief at least. Athleticism is underrated in pitchers. It's hard to quantify how important it can be in development. Is 95 MPH really "plus" in relief these days? Obviously movement, spin and control factor in, but if you're saying that based on pure velocity, I'm not so sure (unless you think 95 now means 98 when he matures).
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 Average FB velo is 93.5MPH among relievers so if you are sitting 95 it'd be plus in terms of velocity.
GeorgiaPeach Verified Member Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 Brody Rodning #484 on BA's Top 500 A high school three-sport star (basketball, football and baseball), Rodning pitched his way into the Minnesota State rotation as a freshman and has been a fixture there ever since. Rodning lost his mother Tiffany to colon cancer during the season. The day after she passed, he threw a complete-game shutout, dedicating the game to his mother. He followed it up with seven shutout innings the next week as well. While he's been a starter for the Mavericks, the 6-foot-1 lefty projects as a lefty specialist at the next level. He generates deception with a cross-fire delivery that makes it hard for lefthanded hitters to pick up his 88-91 mph fastball, which he can run up to 93 at times. He mixes in a slider and curve but both are slurvy and need refinement, as does his changeup.
Pendleton Old-Timey Member Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 Brody Rodning #484 on BA's Top 500 A high school three-sport star (basketball, football and baseball), Rodning pitched his way into the Minnesota State rotation as a freshman and has been a fixture there ever since. Rodning lost his mother Tiffany to colon cancer during the season. The day after she passed, he threw a complete-game shutout, dedicating the game to his mother. He followed it up with seven shutout innings the next week as well. While he's been a starter for the Mavericks, the 6-foot-1 lefty projects as a lefty specialist at the next level. He generates deception with a cross-fire delivery that makes it hard for lefthanded hitters to pick up his 88-91 mph fastball, which he can run up to 93 at times. He mixes in a slider and curve but both are slurvy and need refinement, as does his changeup. Touching story, easy kid to root for.
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 Only 1 HS player taken by the Blue Jays so far.
Pendleton Old-Timey Member Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 Only 1 HS player taken by the Blue Jays so far. AA must be appalled
GeorgiaPeach Verified Member Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 Garrett Mitchell #54 to the A's
Laika Community Moderator Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 Is 95 MPH really "plus" in relief these days? It's close to the line, for a right handed reliever. It would be in the top 49 of qualified relievers right now, based on average FB velocity. Probably not "plus" in the sense of standard deviation, but in the classical scouting grade usage the label would be applied. A bit of semantics. Average velocities have changed rapidly of course.
Laika Community Moderator Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 Difference is if he's hitting 95 - he won't average that and thus he'll be a low lower on the "average FB" list. C'mon, this is common sense. He's hitting it as a SP. In theory he could sit and hit higher as a reliever. He's also relatively inexperienced as a pitcher. It's not unreasonable to think he could add velocity. But we know nothing about him and he's an 11th round pick so this is really silly.
admin Site Manager Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 Are there any FG/BA recaps or praises of our moves so far?
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 C'mon, this is common sense. He's hitting it as a SP. In theory he could sit and hit higher as a reliever. He's also relatively inexperienced as a pitcher. It's not unreasonable to think he could add velocity. But we know nothing about him and he's an 11th round pick so this is really silly. Sorry - I took that as he's touching 95-96 as a reliever, but sits 90-92 as a starter. But whatever, it just seems most RH relievers are 95+ these days. I certainly don't take notice when a guy is throwing 95+ anymore like I did 5-10 years ago.
TheHurl Site Manager Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 AA must be appalled But you can see his influence on the Dodgers drafting....oh wait just two high schoolers through 15 rounds
Pendleton Old-Timey Member Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 But you can see his influence on the Dodgers drafting....oh wait just two high schoolers through 15 rounds AA must be super appalled!!
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 Jay picks to date... https://www.mlb.com/draft/tracker/bluejays
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 I like the top of the draft with Warmoth and Danner but a lot of meh after that. Obviously not going to be able to get great talent in the middle rounds but thought they would go for more upside given the changes in player development they have made.
LGBJ29 Verified Member Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 I like the top of the draft with Warmoth and Danner but a lot of meh after that. Obviously not going to be able to get great talent in the middle rounds but thought they would go for more upside given the changes in player development they have made. how much do you know about guys ranked 200-500? You can only do some much with the money you have for signing
Jonn Old-Timey Member Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 how much do you know about guys ranked 200-500? You can only do some much with the money you have for signing I think what he means is with we had extra bonus pool money because of the additional first. Both first round selections weren't considered tough signs and will sign around slot. He was hoping they went with a tough sign guy trying to talk him out of college by overpaying.
TwistedLogic Old-Timey Member Posted June 14, 2017 Author Posted June 14, 2017 how much do you know about guys ranked 200-500? You can only do some much with the money you have for signing That's kind of the point. They haven't taken a single Top 200 guy since the 4th round. The Jays are well known to shock people by being creative enough to sign guys who are considered unsignable. Between guys like Alford, Pruitt, Brentz, Tellez, they were able to pull off moves like this seemingly each year. This year they have one of their biggest bonus pools ever (if not the biggest) and they've just spent the last two days grabbing off-board guys. Sure they might know something about these kids that nobody else knows, but it's hard to imagine that they have a full draft board of good prospects that apparently nobody else has ever heard of. It'd be easier to be understanding if this front office had drafted for the Jays before, but they have a brand new scouting director. It's more concerning when a guy has a weird or suspect draft in his first attempt at it with the team.
THANOS Old-Timey Member Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 That's kind of the point. They haven't taken a single Top 200 guy since the 4th round. The Jays are well known to shock people by being creative enough to sign guys who are considered unsignable. Between guys like Alford, Pruitt, Brentz, Tellez, they were able to pull off moves like this seemingly each year. This year they have one of their biggest bonus pools ever (if not the biggest) and they've just spent the last two days grabbing off-board guys. Sure they might know something about these kids that nobody else knows, but it's hard to imagine that they have a full draft board of good prospects that apparently nobody else has ever heard of. It'd be easier to be understanding if this front office had drafted for the Jays before, but they have a brand new scouting director. It's more concerning when a guy has a weird or suspect draft in his first attempt at it with the team. Yeah, not overly thrilled with Shapiro/Atkins 1st real draft under their handpicked team. Warmoth and Pearson are nice, but 2nd and 3rd day drafts have left plenty to be desired.
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