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Per a Score notification.

 

Let's never forget his first stint with the Jays. Acquired and then traded less than a day later and got us Colby Rasmus

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Shatkins really scraping the bottom of the barrel. Might want to give Bruce Tallet a call.
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Maybe it's a contract similar to Salty's. He'll get a minor league deal, with an invite to spring training. If he manages to show that his former self is back, he could either be shipping to AAA to be a starter in case we need one or a long reliever. If he sucks out loud, he either remains in the minor leagues, or gets released. Maybe his contract won't be guaranteed if he makes the club, like Salty's. You can't have enough depth, and sometimes you have to scrape the bottom of the barrel.

 

If It's a minor league deal, it can't hurt. If he can't cut in in AAA, then he'll be given his walking papers. The only way I see him making the 25 man is if there's an injury, or he has a great spring and earns a spot in the pen, or he winds up as a started in AAA, so he can be called up for an extra arm when the pen is over worked, and be the long man out of the pen. Or he has a great start in AAA, and is one of the first guys to come up if the rotation has an injury or have been over worked.

 

I can't see it being a major league deal. That's why I'm going to assume it might be a minor league deal, with an incentive laden deal if he's added to the club. Low price (maybe) for some potential upside. If he sucks out loud he'll either head to Buffalo or handed his walking papers.

 

Spring training has started. He doesn't have a job. He's likely to take any offer the Jays make to him, especially if it's starting in AAA, and possibly coming up for spot starts, fill in for an injury, add a fresh arm, or maybe to keep Biagini in the pen this year.

 

We'll have to wait and see if they actually manager to sign them and we'll take it from there. Buy low. Low risk, possible decent out come if he can get it together. If it's a minor league deal, then no lose. Or he pitches well enough that some team gets desperate and wants a trade.

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Shatkins really scraping the bottom of the barrel. Might want to give Bruce Tallet a call.

 

If we're scraping the bottom of the barrell for SP why didn't we do that for 1B/DH?

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Maybe it's a contract similar to Salty's. He'll get a minor league deal, with an invite to spring training. If he manages to show that his former self is back, he could either be shipping to AAA to be a starter in case we need one or a long reliever. If he sucks out loud, he either remains in the minor leagues, or gets released. Maybe his contract won't be guaranteed if he makes the club, like Salty's. You can't have enough depth, and sometimes you have to scrape the bottom of the barrel.

 

If It's a minor league deal, it can't hurt. If he can't cut in in AAA, then he'll be given his walking papers. The only way I see him making the 25 man is if there's an injury, or he has a great spring and earns a spot in the pen, or he winds up as a started in AAA, so he can be called up for an extra arm when the pen is over worked, and be the long man out of the pen. Or he has a great start in AAA, and is one of the first guys to come up if the rotation has an injury or have been over worked.

 

I can't see it being a major league deal. That's why I'm going to assume it might be a minor league deal, with an incentive laden deal if he's added to the club. Low price (maybe) for some potential upside. If he sucks out loud he'll either head to Buffalo or handed his walking papers.

 

Spring training has started. He doesn't have a job. He's likely to take any offer the Jays make to him, especially if it's starting in AAA, and possibly coming up for spot starts, fill in for an injury, add a fresh arm, or maybe to keep Biagini in the pen this year.

 

We'll have to wait and see if they actually manager to sign them and we'll take it from there. Buy low. Low risk, possible decent out come if he can get it together. If it's a minor league deal, then no lose. Or he pitches well enough that some team gets desperate and wants a trade.

 

Wow!

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Shatkins signing these shitballers is much preferable to AA's prayer-based method of dealing with depth.

 

We have always signed washed up minor leaguers to serve as depth. They are solid moves, but nothing is new in that respect.

 

Pitching depth comes from prospects, not from signing guys like Edwin Jackson.

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We have always signed washed up minor leaguers to serve as depth. They are solid moves, but nothing is new in that respect.

 

Pitching depth comes from prospects, not from signing guys like Edwin Jackson.

Depth comes the organization and players you add to it.

 

The Roberto Hernandez, Wade Leblanc, Brett Oberholtzer, Mat Lagos and Edwin Jacksons of the world are much preferable to the Ramon Ortiz and Chien Ming Wangs.

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How complicated could the talks realistically be with the latos/Jackson types?

 

Will you take a minor league deal for about 1m dollars? Yes or no?

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How complicated could the talks realistically be with the latos/Jackson types?

 

Will you take a minor league deal for about 1m dollars? Yes or no?

 

Well the first thing I'd be asking is if they'd be willing to start the year in AAA...

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How complicated could the talks realistically be with the latos/Jackson types?

 

Will you take a minor league deal for about 1m dollars? Yes or no?

 

Probably more complicated then you think.

 

For them it's all about being an MLB pitcher, and the team is trying to get them on a minor league deal. That's tough to begin with.

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How complicated could the talks realistically be with the latos/Jackson types?

 

Will you take a minor league deal for about 1m dollars? Yes or no?

 

Could be a bit of work. The team clearly wants him so they'll probably have to approach what might be a bruised ego or a guy who might be dead set on a MLB deal and doesn't see the writing on the wall that he won't get one. The Yes/No tactic likely ends in fewer successes than having a semi-deep negotiation.

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But it's like when you hear a team has been negotiating wit a fa for weeks but" dollars haven't been discussed yet". I don't buy it.
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Depth comes the organization and players you add to it.

 

The Roberto Hernandez, Wade Leblanc, Brett Oberholtzer, Mat Lagos and Edwin Jacksons of the world are much preferable to the Ramon Ortiz and Chien Ming Wangs.

 

Why exactly do you say that?

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