General 2017 Blue Jays Discussion Thread

[Pendleton]

Gibby is an idiot, i'll tell you what he's thinking regarding Alford. He figures at some point during the game, he'll have a valid reason to insert Alford, either to PH or for defensive purposes. Let's go with the experienced less athletic inferior bat and defender over the better more athletic younger bat with huge upside because that's just how things are done. His savvy move will be using Alford late, Alford contributes towards a win, Gibby leans back in his chair post game and winks at every reporter when asked about Alford's contributions and his decision in using him.

 

Haha sounds about right. I do think there's a lot to be said about being up with the big club and soaking up the atmosphere etc, but he could be getting that experience while playing and possibly helping us more than these fringe guys. #FreeAlford

[Jimcanuck]

#2 or #3?

 

Sanchy

Stro

JD

Travis (arguable)

Pillar or Osuna (I'd go with Pillar)

 

Travis ahead because he is younger, not yet in his prime, and better bat (Pillar's good start to 2017 notwithstanding)

 

C'mon Grant. How do you explain Pillar being #2 or #3 in trade value?

[Jimcanuck]

At the risk of ad nauseum, Gibby is a bottom end MLB manager and will be fired at the same time the trades are made.

[gruber92]

Haha sounds about right. I do think there's a lot to be said about being up with the big club and soaking up the atmosphere etc, but he could be getting that experience while playing and possibly helping us more than these fringe guys. #FreeAlford

 

Exactly. When i heard that Alford was being called up, i thought it was either a short stint until Pillar was back or he was going to see significant playing time if he remained on the roster when Pillar came back. I honestly don't know what the f*** their doing with this kid because if they just need another able bodied OF, then just keep Dwight Smith JR on the roster and send Alford back to AA so he can get his every day at bats. Why start his arb clock if he's not going to play significantly? It's almost like management isn't aware that he's a top 40 prospect.

[Spanky99]

Hasn't Alford started a few games over the weekend and pulled later in the game? (I was away during the long weekend)

[KingKat]

Have to admit I'm with the herd here. Why start Bautista at 3B if it's only to move Coghlan to the OF? This would be a perfect opportunity to bench Coghlan. You would think that would be the whole point.

[John_Havok]

Looks to me like Gibbons is just pulling names and positions out of a hat pregame.

[Jimcanuck]

C'mon Grant. How do you explain Pillar being #2 or #3 in trade value?

 

Grant?

[Slade]

So this Alford thing is going to be another Pompey situation? Don't play the black guy unless we need someone to run.

[saskjayfan]

So this Alford thing is going to be another Pompey situation? Don't play the black guy unless we need someone to run.

 

Yeah, and Pompey was never handed the starting cf job because he was black. Alford will bust the door down eventually. He's a good looking young player.

[Krylian]

The interesting dilemma will be what if we are around .500, and just a few games out of a second wildcard place?

 

So the Ricciardi era?

[Krylian]

Yeah, and Pompey was never handed the starting cf job because he was black. Alford will bust the door down eventually. He's a good looking young player.

 

But he's black. How good looking could he possibly be?

[Bobthe4th]

So the Ricciardi era?

 

Nah, keep reading the thread and you'll get to the post that shows the difference.

[vdubmvp]

I just realized that it's only a two game series. Ugh, two off days in the same week is such garbage scheduling.

[fatcowxlive]

Alford's on the 10 day DL with a hamate fracture of wrist... Dwight Smith Jr. is up

 

Jesus this team is cursed this year

[Brownie19]

f***. Hamate fractures have been known to be the kiss of death no? Don't they zap your power for a couple of years? This could significantly stunt his growth. Brutal.

[Terminator]

f***. Hamate fractures have been known to be the kiss of death no? Don't they zap your power for a couple of years? This could significantly stunt his growth. Brutal.

 

I think you are overreacting a bit.

[Brownie19]

I think you are overreacting a bit.

 

I always thought it was the injury that took a long time to fully recover from...I hope I'm dead wrong.

[Terminator]

I always thought it was the injury that took a long time to fully recover from...I hope I'm dead wrong.

 

He'll be out 4-6 weeks then he needs to rehab, perhaps longer, according to Rotoworld.

 

But "the kiss of death" is too far. He'll come back from it.

[Daniel Labude]

f***. Hamate fractures have been known to be the kiss of death no? Don't they zap your power for a couple of years? This could significantly stunt his growth. Brutal.

 

http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2014/5/2/5672834/hamate-fractures-and-power-in-the-pitchfx-era

 

If this is the same injury it seems he probably will be fine

[Terminator]

http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2014/5/2/5672834/hamate-fractures-and-power-in-the-pitchfx-era

 

If this is the same injury it seems he probably will be fine

 

Rowdy Tellez had that injury in 2015. He came back for the AFL and played well and played well the following season.

[KingKat]

Wrist injuries can definitely sap power but I don't know if this is severe enough to warrant that concern. Hopefully not.

[Sammy225]

f***. Hamate fractures have been known to be the kiss of death no? Don't they zap your power for a couple of years? This could significantly stunt his growth. Brutal.

 

A lot of it obviously depends on the severity.... If it actually is 4-6weeks that is not too bad. Although Stanton missed a full year... Cases obviously vary.

[vilifyingforce]

DFA Mike Ohlman wow. We litterally have scrubs on the 40 that could of gone. This is an extremely poor depth move. He's 100% gone.

 

He cleared.

[Jonn]

He cleared.

 

Good. I'm shocked nobody picked up a catcher with pop and 3 options.

[Brownie19]

Good. I'm shocked nobody picked up a catcher with pop and 3 options.

 

It's probably because he sucks. Which the Jays corrected evaluated.

[Brownie19]

Rowdy Tellez had that injury in 2015. He came back for the AFL and played well and played well the following season.

 

Well that's great. Am I (and my memory) completely off here? Haven't hamate bone injuries historically been really challenging for hitters in the past (maybe it depends on the severity and such).

[Terminator]

Well that's great. Am I (and my memory) completely off here? Haven't hamate bone injuries historically been really challenging for hitters in the past (maybe it depends on the severity and such).

 

You're partially right, it's a concerning injury. We don't know how bad it is just yet and he could be a case like Rowdy Tellez or it could be something worse. It's probably not a kiss of death though.

 

In the end it probably just really f***s this year of a development up for him and burns his service time and next year he's fine.

[Brownie19]

You're partially right, it's a concerning injury. We don't know how bad it is just yet and he could be a case like Rowdy Tellez or it could be something worse. It's probably not a kiss of death though.

 

In the end it probably just really f***s this year of a development up for him and burns his service time and next year he's fine.

 

Really too bad, as he already lost development time last year to the concussion. Given Alford's past, he needs this development time to untap his potential.

[Jonn]

It's probably because he sucks. Which the Jays corrected evaluated.

 

I mean he isn't anything special but surely useful.