General 2017 Blue Jays Discussion Thread

[Angrioter]

I have to believe that the stories were true though. Just DFA'ing him seems to make no sense if there were people interested. It's likely going to be for a DFA candidate pitcher but maybe we can add to the deal and get someone with options and upside.

 

Brendan Rodgers for Goins ++:-)

[Laika]

Yency Almonte is an interesting guy who is on the 40. Sam Moll, short lefty reliever with a nice fastball, curveball combo. That's the extent of what else could help this year.

 

I wonder if the Mets might have interest.

[Jonn]

We need a right-handed hitting outfielder. Goins can for one of those as well.

[TheHurl]

I wonder if the Mets might have interest.

 

Goins might be their starter. Rafael Montero?

[Terminator]

[george09]

https://www.fanragsports.com/mlb/nationals/heyman-nationals-begin-exploring-market-closer/

 

 

Nats have discussed Osuna

[TwistedLogic]

[Stoneyen]

So I just realized that we have basically the same record this year that we've had this point the last two years.

2015: 18-24

2016: 19-23

2017: 18-24

 

Considering all the injuries and guys due to come off the DL this is pretty encouraging. I think that since we started off so badly it feels like we're completely out of it, but we've been here before.

[Jimcanuck]

So I just realized that we have basically the same record this year that we've had this point the last two years.

2015: 18-24

2016: 19-23

2017: 18-24

 

Considering all the injuries and guys due to come off the DL this is pretty encouraging. I think that since we started off so badly it feels like we're completely out of it, but we've been here before.

 

The better predictor at this time of year is run differential. Jays are currently at -16 runs. IIRC, at this time in 2015 and 2016 the run differential was close to zero or even on the positive side.

 

Of course, it is still very early.

[reedjohnsonfan]

So I just realized that we have basically the same record this year that we've had this point the last two years.

2015: 18-24

2016: 19-23

2017: 18-24

 

Considering all the injuries and guys due to come off the DL this is pretty encouraging. I think that since we started off so badly it feels like we're completely out of it, but we've been here before.

 

Yeah far from out of it. Weren't they a game under .500 (or something like that) at the trade deadline in 2015? Though their run differential was the best in baseball, or close, at the time.

[Jimcanuck]

Yeah far from out of it. Weren't they a game under .500 (or something like that) at the trade deadline in 2015? Though their run differential was the best in baseball, or close, at the time.

 

Was the best in baseball by a fair margin

[Stoneyen]

The better predictor at this time of year is run differential. Jays are currently at -16 runs. IIRC, at this time in 2015 and 2016 the run differential was close to zero or even on the positive side.

 

Of course, it is still very early.

 

Run differential definitely does a better job of assessing how the team has performed, but given the lineup we're running out there every night it's not surprising it's pretty negative. I look at the record more like an indicator that all hope may not be lost once we get some talent back in the lineup.

[Maahfaace]

The better predictor at this time of year is run differential. Jays are currently at -16 runs. IIRC, at this time in 2015 and 2016 the run differential was close to zero or even on the positive side.

 

Of course, it is still very early.

 

The run differential isn't as relevant as you claim considering the jays are running out Goins, Coughlan, Carerra, Maile, and Barney as regulars in place of JD, Tulo, Martin, and Pearce. Throw in the spot starts from Lawrence, Latos and Bolinger and it becomes quite clear that trying to measure a Jays lineup with run differential really has no merit. It might be more accurate to articulate that the Bisons run differential against the rest of the MLB is poor.

[Maahfaace]

Run differential definitely does a better job of assessing how the team has performed, but given the lineup we're running out there every night it's not surprising it's pretty negative. I look at the record more like an indicator that all hope may not be lost once we get some talent back in the lineup.

 

Beat me to it

[John_Havok]

The run differential isn't as relevant as you claim considering the jays are running out Goins, Coughlan, Carerra, Maile, and Barney as regulars in place of JD, Tulo, Martin, and Pearce. Throw in the spot starts from Lawrence, Latos and Bolinger and it becomes quite clear that trying to measure a Jays lineup with run differential really has no merit. It might be more accurate articulate that the Bisons run differential against the rest MLB is poor.

 

I think judging their crap lineup by run differential makes perfect sense given they've been forced to run out that crap lineup. Their record and differential should also suck.

 

But i think what you're saying is that their run differential isn't predictive since the lineup will get boosted once the guys that aren't replacement level DFA candidates come back from injury.

[Maahfaace]

I think judging their crap lineup by run differential makes perfect sense given they've been forced to run out that crap lineup. Their record and differential should also suck.

 

But i think what you're saying is that their run differential isn't predictive since the lineup will get boosted once the guys that aren't replacement level DFA candidates come back from injury.

 

Indeed I was, I still honestly think that with a fully healthy lineup that this offence is top 5 in the mlb, it's just unfortunate that we haven't had a real chance to measure it yet.

[Stoneyen]

I think judging their crap lineup by run differential makes perfect sense given they've been forced to run out that crap lineup. Their record and differential should also suck.

 

But i think what you're saying is that their run differential isn't predictive since the lineup will get boosted once the guys that aren't replacement level DFA candidates come back from injury.

 

Yes that's the idea, but also that our s***** lineup hasn't tanked our season already, evidenced by the fact that our record at this point is very similar to the last two years.

[KevinGregg]

Jays need to win 2/3 of their remaining games to finish with 88 wins. The fact that the Jays have done this the last two years is pretty amazing but its probably not overly likely to happen for a third straight year

[Jimcanuck]

The run differential isn't as relevant as you claim considering the jays are running out Goins, Coughlan, Carerra, Maile, and Barney as regulars in place of JD, Tulo, Martin, and Pearce. Throw in the spot starts from Lawrence, Latos and Bolinger and it becomes quite clear that trying to measure a Jays lineup with run differential really has no merit. It might be more accurate to articulate that the Bisons run differential against the rest of the MLB is poor.

 

Sure but let's face it, the odds of this injury prone lineup being healthy for an extended period is low. We are likely to continue to see the Goins, Coghlan, Carerra, Maile, and Barney on a regular basis.

[Jonn]

DFA Mike Ohlman wow. We litterally have scrubs on the 40 that could of gone. This is an extremely poor depth move. He's 100% gone.

[BlueJays]

lol. Sanchez going to DL again. WTF. Good thing Alford is still on the team but he might sent back if Pearce is still alive somewhere

[Superdood]

Aaron Sanchez back to the DL again..... just hilarious at this point.

[BlueJayWay]

Sanchez to DL again.

[BlueJayWay]

[BlueJayWay]

Jays need to win 2/3 of their remaining games to finish with 88 wins. The fact that the Jays have done this the last two years is pretty amazing but its probably not overly likely to happen for a third straight year

 

Check your math.

[Jonn]

Atleast they kept Alford up. He should play everyday but we atleast need now we have additional RHH Outfielder instead of being pooched vs Lefties.

[Daniel Labude]

Seems beyond stupid to keep Alford up here and not play him especially with Carrera's daily stupidity lol

[jays4life19]

1. Kevin Pillar ® CF

 

2. Ezequiel Carrera (L) LF

 

3. Jose Bautista ® RF

 

4. Kendrys Morales (S) DH

 

5. Justin Smoak (S) 1B

 

6. Devon Travis ® 2B

 

7. Russell Martin ® C

 

8. Darwin Barney ® 3B

 

9. Ryan Goins (L) SS

[BlueJayWay]

maybe just amputate the finger

 

[EdwinsParrot]

Wanna say im shocked but it was obvious something wasnt right when you saw his body language