General 2017 Blue Jays Discussion Thread

[z3r0s]

wat

[Orgfiller]

 

Signing free agents isn't so easy.

 

Hard to get someone to agree to backup for Russell Martin if they're trying to rebuild their value. Smart move for Norris with Wilson Ramos out for some time and the rest of the catchers in Tampa being garbage.

[rydermike]

 

I read that as Darwin Barney at first because I looked too quickly and was like "God no, what the hell is wrong with them taking Goins" Then I re-read it and realized it wasn't Barney. Obviously I was wrong, Shatkins are not idiots

[Grant77]

Hard to get someone to agree to backup for Russell Martin if they're trying to rebuild their value. Smart move for Norris with Wilson Ramos out for some time and the rest of the catchers in Tampa being garbage.

 

I wouldn't object to adding Curt Casali. He's better defensively than Salty and probably not much different with the bat

[G-Snarls]

Pearce is apparently playing LF today

[Brownie19]

Chances we can sign Luis Roberts?

[Laika]

Chances we can sign Luis Roberts?

 

zero?

 

pretty sure the Blue Jays can't sign anyone for over $300k until July 2nd. He's been heavily linked to other teams, anyway, and usually when that happens in the international rumour market the rumours are true.

[Brownie19]

zero?

 

pretty sure the Blue Jays can't sign anyone for over $300k until July 2nd. He's been heavily linked to other teams, anyway, and usually when that happens in the international rumour market the rumours are true.

 

Thanks - I wasn't sure where the Jays sat on that front. The article I saw said most of the typical big spenders won't be able to take a run at him (Jays weren't listed).

[TholesWeirdEye]

Don't know if this has been posted yet but if not (Anthony Gose to try pitching):

 

http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/report-former-blue-jays-outfielder-anthony-gose-try-pitching/

[HERPDERP]

rip schultz

 

[KingKat]

rip schultz

 

 

Kind of a non-story unless it's really serious. Wasn't going to make the team anyways.

[HERPDERP]

Feels like Neil Wagner all over again

[KingKat]

Neil Wagner

 

s***... I had forgotten all about him.

[HERPDERP]

s***... I had forgotten all about him.

 

we overused him and f***ed up his arm, poor guy

[HERPDERP]

Latos did not make the team

[Laika]

we overused him and f***ed up his arm, poor guy

 

Neil Wagner was overused? lol

[burlingtonbandit]

Neil Wagner was overused? lol

 

Gibby ran him out for like 50 pitches one game and I don't think he pitched for like a year after that.

[HERPDERP]

Neil Wagner was overused? lol

 

it wasn't in terms of pitching appearances, it was more pitch count. I remember he had a few 40 pitch innings or 2 inning stints

 

edit: looks like the game log doesn't seem too bad in September but he did have a crazy August

 

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/gl.fcgi?id=wagnene01&t=p&year=2013

[Laika]

Gibby ran him out for like 50 pitches one game and I don't think he pitched for like a year after that.

 

Looks like he pitched effectively for the rest of the year after a 45 pitch relief outing (with a ton of off days surrounding it).

 

40 pitches is rare but it's not unseen. Betances threw 40 pitches against Toronto last year, in September, in the second game of back-to-back appearances.

 

Meh. Most teams ask their depth relievers to wear the odd game. I bet Bo Schultz has had a few 40+ pitch Blue Jays outings.

[BTS]

Pretty stoked about not having to watch Mat Latos.

[Sammy225]

Pretty stoked about not having to watch Mat Latos.

 

I know, I got a very distinct Lawrie vibe from him....

[BTS]

I know, I got a very distinct Lawrie vibe from him....

 

Guy is a massive douche. And fat.

[HERPDERP]

I know, I got a very distinct Lawrie vibe from him....

 

very relevant:

https://gfycat.com/BasicUnnaturalIberianemeraldlizard

[glory]

Guy is a massive douche. And fat.

 

And isn't a big league starter anymore.

[GD]

"Angel Pagan is expected to make a decision in the next 48 hours on where he is going to sign with Toronto, SF, Padres, Atlanta and Tigers all having expressed interest. Pagan WBC performance certainly helped his value."

 

​-Bowden, fwiw.

[Laika]

eh?

 

http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=0&type=8&season=2016&month=0&season1=2013&ind=0&team=0&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=2918,3123

 

I dunno.

[intentional wok]

Would Atlanta even provide regular playing time? Or San Diego for that matter? Toronto, SF, and Detroit seem like good opportunities for him, both playing time and for winning. This is assuming all the salary offers are comparable.

[Boxcar]

I'm not really too clear on why so many people want Pagan aside from the fact that we'd get an excuse to re-do the most handsome list. Is he even better than Upton?

[george09]

I'm not really too clear on why so many people want Pagan aside from the fact that we'd get an excuse to re-do the most handsome list. Is he even better than Upton?

 

Yes

[THANOS]

I'm not really too clear on why so many people want Pagan aside from the fact that we'd get an excuse to re-do the most handsome list. Is he even better than Upton?

 

Well he strikes out at a 1/3 of Upton's rate, has a decent walk rate and OBP, had an above average wRC+. I could see him provide 2-3 WAR much easier than Upton.