2015 ALCS or 2016 ALCS which was more frustrating?

[BlueJaysFan4Ever]

If you had to choose between the 2015 ALCS against Kansas City and the 2016 ALCS against Cleveland, as Blue Jays fans which was more frustrating to watch since in the end Toronto ended up losing both series.

 

With Kansas City it was annoying just how many times they were able to comeback late in games, like when they were losing 6-2 against Houston in the 8th inning of Game 4 of the ALDS and in the 7th inning of Game 2 in the ALCS, although Goins and Bautista not catching that popup didn't help.

 

As we all know the Cleveland bullpen was un hittable when Miller and Allen came in, plus the Blue Jays bats going cold also did not help.

 

In the end I say 2016 was more frustrating because on paper Toronto should have defeated Cleveland and at least their offense showed up in 2015 against Kansas City.

[dineke]

last year was. They were the best team in the league.

[thatoneguy]

Last year AINEC.

 

KC's breaks/BABIP in that series was the most "I want to break s***" thing ever. Plus I f***ing hated them and their dickwad manager so that counts too.

[King]

2015

 

/thread

[Jonn]

This year was by far more frustrating. Only frustrating moments in 2015 was that dropped ball in the Price start and the umpires strikezone in the 9th inning of Game 6. Otherwise I was way more annoyed and frustrated by this year's ALCS

[vdubmvp]

Last year was unbelievably brutal. I literally cried when we lost (shut up), because I honestly believed that we would win the World Series. Watching the Jays last year was the most fun I've ever had watching baseball and it really didn't seem like any team could beat them, so when it happened it was really rough. And while this year sucked, because obviously it always sucks to lose, it was nowhere near as devastating. The Indians played practically flawless baseball against us and are also a team that's very easy to like. It's really not even a comparison for me.

[Grant77]

Last year was unbelievably brutal. I literally cried when we lost (shut up), because I honestly believed that we would win the World Series. Watching the Jays last year was the most fun I've ever had watching baseball and it really didn't seem like any team could beat them, so when it happened it was really rough. And while this year sucked, because obviously it always sucks to lose, it was nowhere near as devastating. The Indians played practically flawless baseball against us and are also a team that's very easy to like. It's really not even a comparison for me.

 

There's no crying in baseball. Quit being such a girl.

[Terminator]

Last year was way worse. We had a really good team and a special second half of the year and the Royals BABIP'd us to a degree. I don't like the Royals either and they don't like us.

 

This year we sort of backed in to the Playoffs and then bitch slapped the O's and the Rangers. I was pretty well pleased by that point. On top of it the Indians just played well and I have no animosity toward that team at all. I like a lot of their players.

[vdubmvp]

There's no crying in baseball. Quit being such a girl.

 

I know, I was pretty disgusted with myself.

[fatcowxlive]

Last year

 

if you want a reason, just take a look at King's old avatar

[Effit]

Both were equally frustrating to me. The Indians don't sicken me the way the Royals do, but losing is losing and not making the World Series is still not making the World Series.

[Joshtowers]

Bothl

[JoeCarter]

We were arguably the best team in baseball last year and lost to an inferior team because they got lucky in certain spots, and were the beneficiary of several questionable calls (strike 2 to Revere was criminal.)

 

This year we limped to the finish line and were, candidly, the weakest of the LCS teams.

 

"Frustrating" may be a misnomer, because after dispatching Baltimore and sweeping Odor + Co., and not having to face the Red Sox, it felt like everything was starting to go our way...which is why getting our butts kicked by the Tribe so soundly was ...I'd say more deflating than anything else. But we lost to a better team who played better baseball. No shame in that. No part of me felt like I could make a credible argument that we "deserved" to win that series.

 

As far as sheer drop-me-to-my-knees kicks to the scrotum, though, last year AINEC. They whined. They overachieved. They got lucky. They got borderline calls. We were a better team. I was in a funk for a good month afterwards.

[ChrisS]

Last year. I firmly believe we would have dispatched of the Mets. Our offence was on fire, the game 5 comeback against Texas. Then we get to KC, the dropped ball and after Price is cruising along, his pitches get tipped off. We go back to KC, get screwed by Caleb and the Ump in that ninth inning. This year we didn't hit the ball and got dominated by Miller who was incredible.

[Governator]

I wonder what Texas thinks about which ALDS was more frustrating, losing when up 2-0 with the bautista batflip or being #1 seed and getting their asses beat down by the same team.

[Spanky99]

I wonder what Texas thinks about which ALDS was more frustrating, losing when up 2-0 with the bautista batflip or being #1 seed and getting their asses beat down by the same team.

 

lol... it definitely has to be last season, game 5 last year, will be a nightmare for years to come.

[jays_fever]

Indians played flawless baseball.

 

Royals blooped their way to victories and the announces woulnd't let go out their dicks.

[Sammy225]

The only reason i was going to say this year is because when we were eliminated last year i was in the hospital with my newborn son so i was happy regardless. But baseball wise last year because Royals were not that great and Indians where damn near perfect..... That pitching could potentially win them a WS.

[RealAccountant]

This year for me last year was a magical journey this year taught me what a baseball grind is really like.

 

I appreciate both and will have nostalgia for years. Thank you Bluejays

[BigCecil]

Both were but 2015 more so. We got outplayed in 2016 and just didn't hit. After Gibby left Stro in for a 3rd time through the order and we lost Game 3, 4-2 it was over. The way we played all of 2016 I almost felt lucky to be where we got too beating the O's and TEX.

 

In 2015 KC got BABIP luck, and we had the dropped ball behind Price. We had the bad strike zone against Revere and Navvy when we were in a position to take it to game 7. Who didn't think we were coming back? When it was finally over my 7 yr old son erupted into tears, and I had to try to keep my composure to comfort him. We were both blowing an emotional gasket over the ump.

[RealAccountant]

Dont forget the hick that stole the homerun

[Captain Adama]

Last year I was sure the Jays were going to win that series, KC's pitching was pretty bad and I lost count on the amount of bloop hits that the Royals got. Plus, they went 0-12 with RISP in game 6. That game should not have been close.

 

This year I said the Jays would probably lose to the Indians before it began, and both sides played really good baseball, the Indians' bullpen was just damn near unhittable.

[Terminator]

lol... it definitely has to be last season, game 5 last year, will be a nightmare for years to come.

 

Yeah last year was more frustrating from a baseball perspective but there was a lot of bad blood this series and they got their asses kicked.

[EdwinsParrot]

KC for sure. Nothing this alcs comes close to the game 2 7th inning implosion or the game 6 9th inning.

[Spanky99]

Last year I was sure the Jays were going to win that series, KC's pitching was pretty bad and I lost count on the amount of bloop hits that the Royals got. Plus, they went 0-12 with RISP in game 6. That game should not have been close.

 

This year I said the Jays would probably lose to the Indians before it began, and both sides played really good baseball, the Indians' bullpen was just damn near unhittable.

 

Yup...

 

[JoeCarter]

I simply thought about it like this:

 

For me, 2015 still hurts. Not in an ever-present way that clouds my every waking moment. But when I force myself to think about it, I get down. My shoulders slouch and my breathing slows just a bit. Losing a chance to go to the WS because we slightly underperformed and they massively overperformed (and got measurably lucky) sucks.

 

This year's elimination, while crummy, doesn't even bother me that much anymore, and any remaining malaise will go to zero within days of the WS ending.

 

When something that happened a year ago is more painful than fresh wounds from just last week, questions like the one posed here basically answer themselves.

[BigCecil]

Yup...

 

 

The most telling stat for us isn't there. I think we were 3 for 28 with RISP. I don't know what CLE was, but 3-5 more key hits with a big fly or two could have tipped the series it was that close

[Spanky99]

The most telling stat for us isn't there. I think we were 3 for 28 with RISP. I don't know what CLE was, but 3-5 more key hits with a big fly or two could have tipped the series it was that close

 

Actually... the Indians beat us by the long ball, lol. Who'd have thunk, HR's can win a series.

[BlueJaysFan4Ever]

Both were but 2015 more so. We got outplayed in 2016 and just didn't hit. After Gibby left Stro in for a 3rd time through the order and we lost Game 3, 4-2 it was over. The way we played all of 2016 I almost felt lucky to be where we got too beating the O's and TEX.

I actually thought to myself the Blue Jays would have had done what the Royals did when they made the World Series in 2014. Edwin had his walk off Home Run in the Wild Card game, the Royals also had a walk off win in their Wild Card game against Oakland. The Blue Jays next swept the Rangers in the ALDS, the Royals swept the Angels in their ALDS series.

 

I do wonder if wanting to play Cleveland and not Boston in the ALCS became one of those be careful what you wish for type of moments? On paper Boston had a more dangerous lineup with their ability to get Home Runs and on a personal level I didn't want Boston to advance out of the ALDS because the media at least in the USA would turn it into an even bigger David Ortiz love fest.

[Art Vandelay]

The Kansas series was frustrating because that was a series we could have (and probably should have) won. With the Cleveland series, we were never really in it.