Cubs vs Indians 2016 World Series Discussion

[JPArenshitia]

lol cubs

[JPArenshitia]

Game. Blouses.

[EdwinsParrot]

grats on the ws cleveland

[Kenny Lofton]

Everyone keeps praising the Indians for their perfect play and I really disagree. Their pitching and defense deserves tons of credit, but flawless ball clubs don't eke by in 2-0 and 1-0 games: they put up four or five runs. Their lineup isn't doing a whole lot for them and that's getting masked by the unbelievable pitching. If the Jays were winning 10-8 games in the playoffs they'd get criticized for relying on the bats.

 

The Tribe isn't getting enough reasonable criticism for relying on historically good pitching from a handful of performers. Where are they without Kluber and Miller's combined sub-2 ERA in like 50 innings? What if Josh Tomlin doesn't come out of nowhere to fling shut outs? Game 1 could have been a 1-0 final if not for Lester's mini-implosion in the 1st inning.

 

Runs by game from the ALCS:

 

2, 2, 4, 1, 3, 6, 1, 1. That's barely over two runs per game. Less if you remove the walk-fest and swinging bunt RBI from WS Game 1 and the wild pitch in Game 2.

 

What are you trying to say? Indians pitching is TOO good? Really? Whatever.

 

If this, if that. If my brother had boobs he'd be my sister.

[JFD]

Cubs need to get this back to Cleveland so Schwarber can DH and win the world series for them.

[JFD]

Vince Vaughn looking like he's gonna cry makes me so happy.

[JPArenshitia]

hahahaha thats going to be the saddest rendition of 'take me out to the ballgame' song..cant wait

[Jonn]

Imagine the Indians had a Warriors type collapse?

[JPArenshitia]

the crowd no sold, Vince. lol

[Stangstag]

Outs are dwindling away for the Cubs.

[thatoneguy]

Wow a home run off Miller.

[thatoneguy]

Kipnis rules.

[Jonn]

Using Miller for 2 was kind of strange

[Slade]

Kipnis killing it, everything hit has been scorched.

[Mittens87]

Francona not risking it. If they lose without Miller tokorrow they have 2 more games to lock it down

[Grant77]

Who said it wasn't a crapshoot?

 

At least 5 or 6 people, one of them being olerud. I posted the data proving that it is and it led to a long, drawn out argument.

[Stevecool]

Shapiro probably thinking he should have stayed in Cleveland

[Stangstag]

Shapiro probably thinking he should have stayed in Cleveland

 

I don't think so. Cleveland (the city) sucks.

[Jonn]

I don't think so. Cleveland (the city) sucks.

 

Baseball and Basketball teams are very good though. Every city has its gems. Even the s***** ones.

[Mittens87]

Ticket prices for game 5 are plummeting lol

[intentional wok]

I know it's technically possible to say for any sports team's supporters, but is the prospect of waiting until the year 2124 for a championship that much more palpable for Cub fans? I say yes.

 

I could live until 100 and still not be able to sympathize with the agony of such a sports drought as Cubs fans in 2016.

Edited October 30, 2016 by intentional wok

[FrozenRopes]

Poor Bartman

[Jonn]

Poor Bartman

 

I wonder if he's even a Cubs fan anymore. He probably just wants them to win so people stop blaming him and he can go on living his life.

[Spanky99]

Cubs, got this.

[Spanky99]

At least 5 or 6 people, one of them being olerud. I posted the data proving that it is and it led to a long, drawn out argument.

 

Wasn't that about the Giants post-season track record... not a crapshoot? How much does that bet payout on the Indians?

[Krylian]

Yup. I wish we had played Boston instead.

[Olerud363]

At least 5 or 6 people, one of them being olerud. I posted the data proving that it is and it led to a long, drawn out argument.

 

You posted a student project. My argument was that the better teams probably still have a better chance of winning. We are talking about teams between .650 and .550 records. The true talent of these teams may be closer.

 

So the better team may have a 55 or 60% chance of winning. That is so close the differences wouldn't apparent to an observer, and would take a really long time to become significant in a test.

 

My frustration was that you just don't understand the difference betweeen

 

a) coin flip

something that is close to a coin flip

 

If you are sloppy it is impossible to tell the difference. You are sloppy.

[Olerud363]

Who said it wasn't a crapshoot?

 

grant is being an *******. All people said is that the better teams have an advantage... it doesn't mean they win every series.

 

Grant has one goal in life, to make himself look smart, so he cherry picks things he's (randomly) right about and creates a narrative.

 

At the beginning of the playoffs Cubs had a 25% chance of winning the world series, that means that it was always likely that they wouldn't.

 

At the beginning of this series it was about 60%... that means Grant had a 40% chance of being right anyway.

 

Grant will make 20 fearless statements this year, of which he has a coin flip's shot of being right... he will nail 9

 

You will hear about his wins, over and over.

[Grant77]

Wasn't that about the Giants post-season track record... not a crapshoot? How much does that bet payout on the Indians?

 

I picked the Giants over the Cubs because the playoffs are a crap shoot, but it evolved way past that point. It just kind of upset me that I had the raw data and concrete proof there and nobody accepted it, so I made an uncharacteristic move and bet on it to support my convictions. It pays off $840.

[Grant77]

At the beginning of the playoffs Cubs had a 25% chance of winning the world series, that means that it was always likely that they wouldn't.

 

At the beginning of this series it was about 60%.

 

One last plain and simple answer. The raw data from past playoffs doesn't support giving the Cubs that kind of advantage. I believe that the numbers should be much closer to 12.5% and 50% so I took action on it.