Kenny Lofton

What are you trying to say? Indians pitching is TOO good? Really? Whatever. If this, if that. If my brother had boobs he'd be my sister.

Indians' Andrew Miller has been as big a Cleveland postseason clutch go to player since some guys named James and Irving. Mr. Dependable. Mr. Clutch. Mr. Reliable. Mr. Totally Freaking Awesome. Francona--Shaw-Miller-Allen And Coco Crisp! Are you kidding me with Coco Crisp? Hit and HR in the AL Central clincher, the ALDS clincher, the ALCS clincher, and the only RBI in Game 3 of the World Series. I mean come on what a great late season signing this turned out to be (a signing which has Francona written all over it.) Wow. What a game! In the GM3 opener @ Wrigley.

My best friend is a CUBS fan, and I told him 4 months ago that it would be great if the Indians could play the Cubs in the WS. If I change course and "hope" to play the Dodgers than it could metaphorically backfire. So bring on the CUBS!

I am an outsider and was surprised an opposing team would be as tolerant as this board was this week while I supported the Indians. The applause here is that you have a group of posters that are very passionate and extremely knowledgeable about baseball, and honestly you know more about the game than I ever will to be honest. While I tried to scatter a post here and there to show respect that this is your house, I was never treated as a troll. I learned more about the Blue Jays in these last few days than I ever would have thought, and it was interesting to read the back and forth about your team. You have a good grasp of what your team could/didn't achieve, and what the roster could look like moving forward. I can tell you I remember when John Hart drove the Indians organization when we went to the '95 & '97 World Series, and Mark Shapiro was right there in his hip pocket. The obvious difference I see for Shapiro this time is payroll. I don't want to get started on the Dolan family and their complete disregard for raising the payroll budget, but when a guy like Mark Shapiro can put together a really good plan structured team around one of the lowest payrolls in the business and last as long as he did, trust me you're going to see the results in Toronto. Mark is shrewd and a winner. Just because the Indians couldn't get a WS win under him should not betray the winning atmosphere Mark instilled here in Cleveland. He never complained, he never made excuses, and he always had a keen eye on developing his farm system; just look who Cleveland gave up in the Andrew Miller trade and that should be indicative of the diversity of a Shapiro organization. I have to say you guys are a real class act here on this board. You obviously support your team as much as we support ours, and the words expressed here in this appreciation thread really give an Indians fan a great source of pride. We aren't a perfect team and we don't deserve any special accolades just because we may have overachieved (in some reports) predictions. We lost our best player (Michael Brantley), and then our catcher (Yon Gomes), and then with the AL Central and home field advantage on the line we lose Carlos Carrasco and Danny Salazar, #2 and #3 starters. So props to players left standing to compete against a great ballclub like the Toronto Blue Jays. There were many Indians fans worried about losing to the Jays in this ALCS, and when it was 3-1 we started to do the SP math about coming back to Cleveland 3-2. Anyway great series. You have a lot to hold your head up about.

Indians pulled off a 4-1 series victory with questionable starting pitching a little offense against a great Blue Jays rotation. They needed to play smart and execute the game plan to even have a shot against a solid Toronto club. Good season for the Blue Jays. It isn't easy getting this far. Good luck in 2017.

Few as good as Tito in those situations.

Boys and girls this is why we don't play with drones.

We have a ballgame folks.

We were pretty well spent trying to break the franchise consecutive win record the game before (14 in a row) but yeah that was an assbeating for sure. I don't think this stuff matters to be honest. In the postseason you play the game in front of you and don't worry about the previous games or the games tomorrow or the next day. Win today and move on. As fans it is fun to play with the numbers and compare the series and all of that, but in the postseason I don't even think fans can use numbers to frame a positive or negative outcome. Anything can happen at this stage.

Well I guess the point is moot. MLB isn't going to allow it this to happen.

Fair enough. His comments seemed unnecessary to me, that it was now "safe" to say something on a big stage like this when in reality he didn't have the stones to say something when he was here. Not too many people were wrapped around the axle last week when he said it so it really isn't a big deal. Mark was respected in Cleveland. The timing and the words he chose were - awkward.

Actually I hope the judge does ban Chief Wahoo. The Indians have lived an "us against the world" mentality all season long, with chips on their shoulders, and this will only exacerbate that more. I like Mark Shapiro and good luck to him with Toronto, but his statements the other day about Chief Wahoo seem a day late/dollar short. I get the issue with the logo and I am perfectly fine with being done with it. My high school had a Rebel Flag (Confederate) for 55 years until it had to be retired due to our school's football team improving to the point that we needed to travel to play teams with high black populations. I thought it was the right thing to do and my thoughts were that it should never be my (our) right to tell someone not to be offended with something so explosive and negative. I feel the same way about Chief Wahoo. BUT, to determine a ban in the middle of the ALCS is nothing more than a publicity stunt and a distraction, with surely political reasoning behind it. Did we NOT play in Toronto this season already? Anyway it makes no difference to me. I don't buy or own gear with Chief Wahoo nor am I in the vocal majority who want to keep it. But my guess is the judge isn't going to issue the ban for the ALCS, if he does the Indians will fight him in court, and in the end baseball will be played. It is a ticky-tack stunt that makes the city look like lame.

It's painfully obvious I'm not MLB manager material because I would let Miller pitch the 9th inning. I'm nervous with Cody Allen closing this game.

What? You can't be serious.

Shaw. That's just brutal