Offseason Roster Thread 2016-17

[reedjohnsonfan]

you're upset the front office couldn't predict the future, there's no logical conversation to be had here

 

They have so-called expertise in predicting how markets (especially for one of their star players who they should use a lot of their resources toward) for players will play out. If you think it's fine for them to think expected price tomorrow=price today then that's hilarious. It's a huge part of their job to try and understand Edwin's potential market.

[reedjohnsonfan]

If our FO predicted it, so would other FO and his agent. What happens if you stall on Morales, he signs elsewhere and so does Edwin?

I dont think anyone could have envisioned that EE would be having issues getting an offer in the 4/80 range.

 

But other FO didn't offer him 4/80 apparently. Markets aren't as perfect as you are implying IMO.

[Pendleton]

Rockies I would trade Stroman for:

 

Nolan Arenado

Jon Gray

Trevor Story (I guess?)

Tyler Anderson (maybe?)

 

that's it!

 

Stroman aside, I'd be happy to take Dahl off their hands.

[Laika]

Stroman aside, I'd be happy to take Dahl off their hands.

 

Stroman aside, bring me:

 

Dahl

Tapia

Chatwood

Hoffman

Ottavino

Bettis

 

..... I wonder if the Rockies even realize that they actually have a really strong rotation one through six?

[Jonn]

Happy Birthday Jonn.

 

Happy birthday Jonn!!

 

Happy Birthday Jonn

 

Happy Birthday Jonn.

 

Thanks guys much appreciated!

[RealAccountant]

I think that this front office would rather have Jay Bruce than Jose Bautista and keep the draft pick

 

Obviously Mets wants an asset for Bruce or he would be a Jay right now. If this was a salary dump Shatkins would have jumped all over it. It's just a waiting game to the Jays

[Daniel Labude]

Stroman being discussed in trade talks with Colorado. Probably nothing to see here.

 

Probably nothing going to happen. I wonder if they would consider Blackmon and Hoffman for Stroman.

[LGBJ29]

Probably nothing going to happen. I wonder if they would consider Blackmon and Hoffman for Stroman.

 

probably, Hoffman sucks

[L54]

Probably nothing going to happen. I wonder if they would consider Blackmon and Hoffman for Stroman.

 

Pft, that should get them Mike Trout!

[Terminator]

[Terminator]

I didn't see a twitter link so thought I'd share. They have a deep farm system so they could sweeten the pot in a hurry. But we have no replacement for Stroman in our rotation and we want to be competitive. Idk, what would they have to throw in on top of Blackmon before you'd do it?

[RealAccountant]

Our rotation is our strength we shouldn't trade from it. If we are going to be successful it's going to be because we have our deep rotation

 

Say what you will about Price and Sale and that other overrated cy young award winner those guys are a bit older then what we have

 

I am not putting down the Yankees or the Redsox starters but that is the age when performance drops and injuries start showing up.

[Grant77]

I didn't see a twitter link so thought I'd share. They have a deep farm system so they could sweeten the pot in a hurry. But we have no replacement for Stroman in our rotation and we want to be competitive. Idk, what would they have to throw in on top of Blackmon before you'd do it?

 

Smoak and McGee would get me talking, but I'd much rather deal prospects.

[Laika]

I didn't see a twitter link so thought I'd share. They have a deep farm system so they could sweeten the pot in a hurry. But we have no replacement for Stroman in our rotation and we want to be competitive. Idk, what would they have to throw in on top of Blackmon before you'd do it?

 

Stroman for Blackmon+Bettis

 

I'll also take McGee off their hands as a throw in, please and thank you.

 

Tyler Anderson is really good but I don't want to just assume the Rockies would do something that dumb.

[JFD]

hell yes Blackmon please.

[thatoneguy]

hell yes Blackmon please.

 

Not straight-up.

[ChrisS]

Not straight-up.

 

I hope we dont get him. Giving up a solid young pitcher for primarily a guy that had one good year. Id rather keep the rotation and sign someone for the OF at this point.

[THANOS]

I hope we dont get him. Giving up a solid young pitcher for primarily a guy that had one good year. Id rather keep the rotation and sign someone for the OF at this point.

 

I haven't checked his home and away splits but I would imagine that season was also inflated by Coors.

[Jonn]

I haven't checked his home and away splits but I would imagine that season was also inflated by Coors.

 

He had a tremendous season on the road. He's not a Coors only product in fact he hit 17 homeruns on the road and 12 at Coors. He has speed, he makes contact, moving to an Outfield corner will help his value even more.

 

I love the player but Stroman straight up was a good no. Rockies are going to move an Outfielder and Blackmon in LF should be a big target for us if the price is right.

[ChrisS]

I haven't checked his home and away splits but I would imagine that season was also inflated by Coors.

 

Last season was an outlier for him, he had 17hr away and 12 at Coors iirc. 144 WRC+ away, 116 at Coors.

 

2015: 111 Home, 89 away

 

2014: 122 Home, 71 away.

[metafour]

I haven't checked his home and away splits but I would imagine that season was also inflated by Coors.

 

He actually hit for most of his power on the road, but at the end of the day he's a guy who was a 100-105 wRC+ hitter for three seasons and all of a sudden put up a 130 wRC+ season backed by a huge uptick in power. He doesn't walk much, and he's not very good defensively either. He can clearly hit; but guys who rely on high BABIP tend to age worse and be less dependable than BB-driven batters.

[Terminator]

Home/away splits for Rockies players aren't always reliable because of the "Coors Field Hangover Effect." They seemingly disproportionately suck on the road more than most players. Edited December 8, 2016 by Terminator

[ChrisS]

Maybe a small increase in his offence can be attributed to the fact that he hit infront of LeMahieu, Arenado, Story and CarGo.

[Bangbangchikachika12]

If we trade Stroman for Blackmon straight up i might actually be sick. That would be terrible, Blackmon's only had one good year and Pompey is projected to have a better WAR than Blackmon (doubt it will happen).

 

 

Just sign Fowler and keep Stroman, we can't afford to trade away starters right now.

 

 

Brendan Rodgers and Blackmon for sure (doubt they would include him in a trade tho)

[G-Snarls]

Interview with Atkins

 

http://m.bluejays.mlb.com/news/article/210617110/blue-jays-not-likely-to-sign-edwin-encarnacion/

[G-Snarls]

1. Rumour has it no one has offered Edwin more than 3 years 60M

 

2. Jays rumoured to have 25M left to spend and they want to sign one OF one backup catcher and 2 RPs

 

3. They want a quality outfielder and don't want to compromise there in order to make room for Edwin

Edited December 8, 2016 by G-Snarls

[Frenchsoup]

Billy Hams available and we're not in? We're dumb.

[G-Snarls]

Trading for Eaton would have been sweet but he was expensive in prospects. Obviously in large part because he's on such a team friendly contract

[Governator]

Rob Manford on Fan590 right now, Biagini will be on at 11:30 or something like that which is always good.

[Pendleton]

Billy Hams available and we're not in? We're dumb.

 

We already have a CF and Hamilton's bat doesn't exactly play in a corner. Sure he's lightning fast but he really isn't the type of player to complain about missing on.