Offseason Roster Thread 2016-17

[Dr. Dinger]

Trade 4 Cutch

 

I'm driving this train. This is the perfect time to buy Cutch for so many reasons.

[Bobthe4th]

I'm driving this train. This is the perfect time to buy Cutch for so many reasons.

 

Pompey and Happ? Doubt that's enough though.

[G-Snarls]

Colby Rasmus, anyone??

[Abomination]

It's fair to say that our front office doesn't agree with the public perception of his defense. There are things to like about a bat that slugs .500+ without striking out too much.

 

Or perhaps they'll play Morales and 1st and DH Bruce?

[G-Snarls]

I'm driving this train. This is the perfect time to buy Cutch for so many reasons.

 

If we could get Cutch for RF I'm sooooo fine with Upton/Bruce for LF and letting Bautista walk for a draft pick

[Pendleton]

 

At least all 3 (of Upton Pompey and Carerra) provide speed and all can play defense though Carrera less well. None of them should be hitting leadoff though and that's what Gibby will want.

 

Would be nice to have a true table setter at the top of the lineup.

[G-Snarls]

 

Would be nice to have a true table setter at the top of the lineup.

 

F'n Travis

[G-Snarls]

Cutch could hit leadoff

 

JS

[Frenchsoup]

Colby Rasmus, anyone??

 

I've seen enough of that experiment..

[BTS]

Colby Rasmus, anyone??

 

Actually, he's a perfect platoon partner for Upton.

[G-Snarls]

Realistically, do Pirates prob insist on Osuna or Sanchez in a deal for Cutch? (if I were them I'd want cost controlled pitching in return)

[Frenchsoup]

O come on BTS.. he's an easy out. As is Upton.

[G-Snarls]

Actually, he's a perfect platoon partner for Upton.

 

1 year 8M?

 

Does he say no?

 

Did he hate it here?

 

Edit: f*** that. We can do better.

[wamco]

So ugly

[THANOS]

1 year 8M?

 

Does he say no?

 

Did he hate it here?

 

Edit: f*** that. We can do better.

 

That would be horrendous. I don't want another 30% k rate guy.

[Bobthe4th]

Realistically, do Pirates prob insist on Osuna or Sanchez in a deal for Cutch? (if I were them I'd want cost controlled pitching in return)

 

Cutch is only signed for 2 seasons so if they did then there's no trade with us.

 

Losing either Osuna or Sanchez would leave a big hole to fill for this season as well.

 

Guess we could offer silly money to Chapman or Jansen to replace Osuna, but just can't see that happening.

[BTS]

1 year 8M?

 

Does he say no?

 

Did he hate it here?

 

Edit: f*** that. We can do better.

 

He left on bad terms, because he was benched down the stretch. But I'm not sure we'll do better. Still have 1B, RF, LF empty, so I think we can assume one corner OF spot will be platoon with Upton. And I think it could actually be a very good platoon:

- Upton has a career 109 wRC+ vs. LHP and 93 vs. RHP

- Rasmus has a career 81 wRC+ vs. LHP and 109 vs. RHP

- both are easy plus defenders in a corner spot

- both are plus baserunners

- the plus defense and baserunning, and the fact that both can capably defend CF, makes both ideal 4th OF candidates

 

I bet you squeeze 3+ wins out of them combined.

[Laika]

Colby Rasmus, anyone??

 

That 87 wRC+ projection

[Bobthe4th]

The front office is all about security.

 

If we were to splash out on an elite player it'd be to put us on another level, not move a weakness from one position to another.

[glory]

Rasmus is a weird dude. He'd probably retire before he comes back to Toronto.

 

Knowing how cheap the Pirates are, would the cost for Cutch go down if the Jays took back a bad contract? i don't think they have a really bad one, unless they don't want to pay Josh Harrison 2/18. I'm sure it would still take a big package though.

[BTS]

That 87 wRC+ projection

 

He had a growth in his inner ear that bothered him all season, and he claims it hurt his performance. I'm not sure to what extent that's true, but I think he'd be close to league average offensively if used in a strict platoon. Even if he's at a 90-95 wRC+, he's probably about average in LF.

[Laika]

He had a growth in his inner ear that bothered him all season, and he claims it hurt his performance. I'm not sure to what extent that's true, but I think he'd be close to league average offensively if used in a strict platoon. Even if he's at a 90-95 wRC+, he's probably about average in LF.

 

The list of excuses used by Colby Rasmus grows!

 

He is inconsistent because he is a high strikeout, extreme FB hitter. His BABIP has oscillated between .250 and .350 in various full seasons. For whatever random reason his defense has also gone up and down in a similar way.

 

You're not looking for a 100 wRC+ from a strict platoon player though. You want a lot better than that. He only faced LHP in 22% of his PA this year which is fairly low (strict platoon guys get like 11% and non-platoon see over 30%).

 

I would pay him 1/$8 but he would be one of my last choices. There is merit though. High variance player means possible upside on a small deal like that.

 

But I think it's a moot point. Rasmus is probably rock hard at the thought of putting down roots in Trump's new America. #MAGA

[Governator]

I will puke seeing Rasmus & Smoak back to back against RHP. We will lead league in strikeouts again.

[Frenchsoup]

I would love to see them go after Neil Walker for LF and backup 2b/1b. That's a real nice bat, and a nice fit. Should be semi expensive though... cough Rogers.

[THANOS]

I will puke seeing Rasmus & Smoak back to back against RHP. We will lead league in strikeouts again.

 

Absolutely. f*** that.

[G-Snarls]

I will puke seeing Rasmus & Smoak back to back against RHP. We will lead league in strikeouts again.

 

Yeah I'm not in favour either

 

I want to aim higher

[glory]

 

The Bruce s*** won't die.

[wamco]

He left on bad terms, because he was benched down the stretch. But I'm not sure we'll do better. Still have 1B, RF, LF empty, so I think we can assume one corner OF spot will be platoon with Upton. And I think it could actually be a very good platoon:

- Upton has a career 109 wRC+ vs. LHP and 93 vs. RHP

- Rasmus has a career 81 wRC+ vs. LHP and 109 vs. RHP

- both are easy plus defenders in a corner spot

- both are plus baserunners

- the plus defense and baserunning, and the fact that both can capably defend CF, makes both ideal 4th OF candidates

 

I bet you squeeze 3+ wins out of them combined.

 

If upton is 93 vs rhp, does necessarily need a platoon partner is he provides plus base running and defense?

[Laika]

If upton is 93 vs rhp, does necessarily need a platoon partner is he provides plus base running and defense?

 

He projects to be muuuuuch worse than 93 wRC+ vs RHP going forward. That's his career mark, not his talent!

 

BTS is just illustrating the size of their career splits.

[Spanky99]

Do Carrera and Pompey both still have options?

 

http://www.rosterresource.com/mlb-toronto-blue-jays/